On May 22, 2005, at 7:57 PM, bbrigante wrote:
> Guru Dev was said to have attended Sanksrit school at age 8, so he
> would have been familiar with the Ramayana because of his education,
> but don't all Hindus have a pretty good familiarity with the story of
> Rama and Sita?
Yeah, but that doesn'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 5/22/05 9:03 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Thanks. Knowledgeable posts like this enrich FFL tremendously.
>
> > You may also
> > remember that Guru Dev was born in Ayodhya, the bithplace of
Raama,
>
on 5/22/05 9:03 AM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks. Knowledgeable posts like this enrich FFL tremendously.
> You may also
> remember that Guru Dev was born in Ayodhya, the bithplace of Raama,
> and would be naturally familiar with the Ramayana and the
> Ramacharitmanas.
I heard tha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ram is a fire mantra?
Rick, Ram, with short 'a' is indeed a fire-mantra and is in the center
of the Manipura chakra, which is not the second as Vaj says, but the
third chakra.
See it here:http://www.sics.se/~piak/yoga/y
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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> As MMY has said - We are only able to love ourselves - not others.
> Ingegerd
>
***
This could be a little misleading to those not familiar with what MMY
said, which was "all love is directed toward the s
As MMY has said - We are only able to love ourselves - not others.
Ingegerd
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> Drammm on
>
> Of course he loves you and all the hardworking, honest
> people who have contributed to his movement. It's diff
Drammm on
Of course he loves you and all the hardworking, honest
people who have contributed to his movement. It's difficult
to see that now, with the peculiar situation in the
movement, but it will be shown at some point
of life.
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> --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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> > > Sorry, but this attitude you have really bugs the
> > > bejesus out of me. Go f
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
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> > Sorry, but this attitude you have really bugs the
> > bejesus out of me. Go figure.
> > -Peter pissy pants
>
>
> Those things that really bug us are usually (always
>
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> Sorry, but this attitude you have really bugs the
> bejesus out of me. Go figure.
> -Peter pissy pants
Those things that really bug us are usually (always ?) born of
samsaras, things yet to be resolved. But samsara i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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> A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers
> build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully,
> for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did,
> because
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
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> A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers
> build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths
successfully,
> for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they
did,
> becau
A lot of intelligent, well-educated Meditators inkl. TM-Teachers
build up the Movement in the West in the 60th and 70ths successfully,
for free, using a lot of spare-time and money. I know what they did,
because I was there. It is very sad if MMY do not appreciate what
they did.
Ingegerd
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
measure.
snip
> Maharishi often made it clear that he didn't like the hangers-on.
> Trouble was, he needed someone to help; hard-working as he was, he
> simply couldn't do it all. So the hangers-on eventually morphed int
t;>> From: Vaj
>>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving
>>>
>>> Was it Raam or Ram?
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 20, 2005, at 5:48 PM, j
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ram is a fire mantra?
I use it to light cigarettes for women in Paris cafes.
Gets me laid a lot.
:-)
Unc
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005, at 6:43 PM, Llundrub wrote:
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>> http://minet.org/mantras.html
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>> From: Vaj
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>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving
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> From: Vaj
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 4:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and effortless diving
>
> Was it Raam or Ram?
>
>
> On May 20, 2005, at 5:48 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote:
>
> > Why did he
The physicist Richard Feynman said"whenever I meet someone who says
he understands Quantum Mechanics..I'm sure he doesn't".I think the
same can be said of the "Truth".People who claim to have found the
"truth" are invariably deluded.Kevin
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Was it Raam or Ram?
On May 20, 2005, at 5:48 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote:
> Why did he stop using Raam and switch to the bijas.
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Why did he stop using Raam and switch to the bijas.
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> "... discovered that the basic TM practice as we know it is
> incomplete and really
Me old friend, professor Anoop Chandola of the University of
Arizona,once commented that Maharishi is the greatest spiritual
leader of India of the latter half of the 20th Century, following in
the footsteps of his guru, who was the latest spiritual leader of the
first half. He also commented t
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> "... discovered that the basic TM practice as we know it is
> incomplete and really more of a first level kind of introductory
> practice
very interesting point. This raises an ethical consideration: if one
thinks something is truly in everybody's best interest, as MMY and
followers thought/think about TM, is it OK to 'market' it, in other
words, simplify the message for mass appeal, therefore sacrificing
absolute disclosure for
The mantras we use are not bija
mantras.
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on 5/20/05 10:46 AM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL
on 5/20/05 10:46 AM, gerbal88 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> He started out with a single `way' of using one mantra, ram /raam/.
I've heard this before (from you?). Was this the mantra being given when you
were around? When did it change to the bija mantras now used? (And being
used in 1968 when
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"... discovered that the basic TM practice as we know it is
incomplete and really more of a first level kind of introductory
practice. And that the whole "knowledge package" presented by MMY is
kind of cobbled together
The Point is: Tm teaches one how to be effortless. Because, it
doesen't require any effort to be aware, when you wake up, you are
just aware, it doesen't take effort to be aware. Tm just is the
process of becoming effortless, learning how to be effortless. When
one is completely effortless, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On May 20, 2005, at 1:54 AM, sparaig wrote:
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> > who the hell cares?
>
> Those who appreciate honesty and a repulsion for "spin". Marketing
> something as "effortless" to try to make it look like a "higher" form
> of med
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Concealing of the truth is not what most
> people want when they expect spirituality.
Indeed. What most people want when they
"sign on" to a spiritual path is to be
told that they now KNOW the truth.
Few are ever disapp
On May 20, 2005, at 1:54 AM, sparaig wrote:
> who the hell cares?
Those who appreciate honesty and a repulsion for "spin". Marketing
something as "effortless" to try to make it look like a "higher" form
of meditation is dishonest. Concealing of the truth is not what most
people want when they
I think the effort thing is really a non issue, what difference
does it make to acknowledge that some effort is involved in the practice,
compared to thinking type meditations it is virtually effortless. To me
the real gist of what Vaj seems to be saying in most of his posts regarding
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was just joking. But I'm sure the 1000 eyed demon friend is
somewhere in incarnation somewhere. It would suck to think one was
going to Maitreya's house and have the 1000 eyed demon open the door.
Not if one was an
Here's the ultimate dogmatic answer to your point:
who the hell cares? After 32 years of TMing, i'm still quite happy
with the results of my beginner's technique (and the
several "Advanced" techniques I've been taught).
All this talk of more effort, less effort, non-effort, etc., is a
bunchof
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> > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > TM is like diving; jump and the rest is taken care
> > > of. It's laws of
> >
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I want him to be
> open-minded and considerate. Why? What's my problem?
>
classic Byron Katie inquiry
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On May 19, 2005, at 4:10 PM, lupidus108 wrote:
> For which I presume he is well paid. I might be wrong, but probably
> not.
Maharishi 666 and Maitreya 666 pay me very well.
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On May 19, 2005, at 3:32 PM, lupidus108 wrote:
> More interestingly I find that these simple principles are being
> challenged here on FFL by Vaj and others. It is like they say; no,
> gravity does not excist !
No, just that there are different types of meditation. For some reason
the technique
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And the 1000 eyed demon that he sends to me isprobably
my best friend too! I want him to be
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> --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > TM is like diving; jump and the rest is taken care
> > of. It's laws of
> > nature operating. Like gravity the result is
> > inevitable; you fall into
> > transcenden
#x27;s his best friend.
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Lups is gonna freak out when the
huge 1000 eyed demon comes not realizing that it's his best friend.
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--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> TM is like diving; jump and the rest is taken care
> of. It's laws of
> nature operating. Like gravity the result is
> inevitable; you fall into
> transcendence.
>
> More interestingly I find that these simple
> principles are being
> challenged here
TM is like diving; jump and the rest is taken care of. It's laws of
nature operating. Like gravity the result is inevitable; you fall into
transcendence.
More interestingly I find that these simple principles are being
challenged here on FFL by Vaj and others. It is like they say; no,
gravity
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