Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-10 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/9/05 5:23:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Explains why we invaded Iran when we did, yup yup (sarcasm should be noted). Not yet To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ an

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/05 10:16:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > What most people, conservative OR liberal, don't understand is that > it is easier to control right-wing dictatorships than demo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/05 9:47:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > But who has traditionally supported the dictators and royal houses of > the MIddle East? > > > > > > Every industrial nation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/8/05 11:09:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MDixon you are probably right about this, so I was wondering, do you have any good ideas on how to create those Democracies?Rick Carlstrom Rick I think the ball is rolling right now. I think th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/8/05 10:16:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What most people, conservative OR liberal, don't understand is that it is easier to control right-wing dictatorships than democracies. This is an official part of US policy decision-making and h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/8/05 10:15:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But that's just the point.  As long as we'redependent on their oil, we have to make nicewith the dictators who control it. And if we had not been buying their oil, they would still be living in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-09 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/8/05 9:47:07 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But who has traditionally supported the dictators and royal houses of the MIddle East? Every industrial nation that has ever had to do business with them. Governments have to recognize somebody as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/05 8:43:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Measures to address global warming would > involve reducing our dependence on fossil > fuels, which would in turn reduce our > inc

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 7/8/05 8:43:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Measures to address global warming would

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/05 8:43:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Measures to address global warming would > involve reducing our dependence on fossil > fuels, which would in turn reduce our > inc

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 7/8/05 8:43:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Measures to address global warming would > involve reducing our dependence on fossil > fuels, which would in turn reduce our > inc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 7/8/05 8:43:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Measures to address global warming wouldinvolve reducing our dependence on fossilfuels, which would in turn reduce our increasingly disastrous involvement in theMiddle East; and measures to addre

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Statement of group claiming responsibility > 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' > > Is this supposed to be an Al Qaeda website? Seems to me that there's no more justification for attack

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Statement of group claiming responsibility > 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' > > Is this supposed to be an Al Qaeda website? Seems to me that there's no more justification for attack

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If you had a belief system (such as Tantra) in which > > nothing was inherently either good or evil, would you > > need an "enemy"

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread anonymousff
Statement of group claiming responsibility 'The heroic mujahedeen have carried out a blessed raid in London' - A statement appeared today on the jihadist website Al-Qal'ah (Fortress), purportedly posted by the group claiming re

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > (snip) > > > Measures to address global warming would > > involve reducing our dependence on fossil > > fuels, which would in turn reduce our

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can. > > My Momma used to tell me to "leave the thing alone" a lot when >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip) > Measures to address global warming would > involve reducing our dependence on fossil > fuels, which would in turn reduce our > increasingly disastrous involvement in the > Middle East; and measures to address

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can. My Momma used to tell me to "leave the thing alone" a lot when I was 13. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And if this planet and its lifeforms turn out to > be the galactic equivalent of the Smallpox virus, > and the only way to save the trillions of trillions > of other sentient beings in the universe is to kill > of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
 Something needs to be > done about it.  Not to bolster some particular religion or *cause* > but to save the freakin' planet.     ---Actually nothing needs to be done about anything. People merely need to leave thing alone as much as they can.  To subscribe, send a message to: [EMA

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > If you had a belief system (such as Tantra) in which > > nothing was inherently either good or evil, would you > > need an "enemy"

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you had a belief system (such as Tantra) in which > nothing was inherently either good or evil, would you > need an "enemy" to reinforce that belief system or > lend it "credibility?" Possibly not. But the minute >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Did the London terrorists report directly to George > > W. Bush? Probably not. But they're certainly on > > the same "side" as he i

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IMO, the real tragedy of this tragedy is that whoever > did it *could* effectively have been working for Bush > & Co. They've managed (so far) to derail a series of > talks that were supposed to be about the *real* pr

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > The London terrorists and > > the old rich men who make up Bush & Co. are NOT > > enemies. They are PARTNERS. They NEED each other > > I'd like to tie this thought ˆ to something you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Patrick Gillam
TurquoiseB wrote: > > The London terrorists and > the old rich men who make up Bush & Co. are NOT > enemies. They are PARTNERS. They NEED each other I'd like to tie this thought ˆ to something you said a few days ago, Unc, about how debaters in spiritual forums argue not so much to determine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
  - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote:>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > London and The Duh Factor... > > Blowing up innocent people is wrong. > > No exceptions. > > > > --I agree. But that said, if there were both karma and innocence then how would people get blown up? >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
London and The Duh Factor...  Blowing up innocent people is wrong. No exceptions.--I agree. But that said, if there were both karma and innocence then how would people get blown up?   I actually do have an answer to this.    To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The real tragedy of the London tragedy

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did the London terrorists report directly to George > W. Bush? Probably not. But they're certainly on > the same "side" as he is. > > Unc > > --At any rate, they are both gross materialists. Bush and Co. > be