[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-29 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > [I wrote:] > > Maybe because the emphasis has always been > > on personal experience? Books on Vedic > > knowledge as MMY taught it aren't going to > > do anybody much good without experience of > > the techniques. > > Yes, the emph

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-29 Thread seekliberation
> Maybe because the emphasis has always been > on personal experience? Books on Vedic > knowledge as MMY taught it aren't going to > do anybody much good without experience of > the techniques. Yes, the emphasis on personal experience is what made MIU/MUM a unique experience. But MIU/MUM isn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > Please supply the title and publishing > > data. > > > 'A Six Month Course in Yoga Asanas' > Spiritual Regeneration Movement, 1962 > > "The book was published by the Spiritual > Regeneration Foundation, MMY's first >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex wrote: > > > > > > authfriend wrote: > > Actually, we don't "know" this. What we "know" is > > that this gym teacher did the stick-figure drawings > > for the photocopied asana sheets handed out at > > residence courses... > > > Actually, what we do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Maybe because the emphasis has always been > on personal experience? Books on Vedic > knowledge as MMY taught it aren't going to > do anybody much good without experience of > the techniques. > For whatever it's worth, the Wikipedia

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Actually, we don't "know" this. What we "know" is > that this gym teacher did the stick-figure drawings > for the photocopied asana sheets handed out at > residence courses. > > B

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread Vaj
On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:23 PM, WillyTex wrote: > > What would be better than a gym teacher teaching hatha > > yoga poses and a good artist drawing the pictures in > > a yoga asana book? > > Vaj wrote: > Actually we don't know that this is one of the best > artists in India nor do we know that thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread WillyTex
authfriend wrote: > Please supply the title and publishing > data. > 'A Six Month Course in Yoga Asanas' Spiritual Regeneration Movement, 1962 "The book was published by the Spiritual Regeneration Foundation, MMY's first organization in the States. I got my copy at their bookstore down on Santa Mo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread WillyTex
> > What would be better than a gym teacher teaching hatha > > yoga poses and a good artist drawing the pictures in > > a yoga asana book? > > Vaj wrote: > Actually we don't know that this is one of the best > artists in India nor do we know that this gym teacher > was one of the best at asanas and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread Vaj
On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:23 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > 3. When Mahesh was hobbling together his system of > > meditation and he wanted to add yoga asanas, he had > > to have a gym teacher (see the files section for his > > original courses) make up the course for him! > > authfriend wrote: > Actuall

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex wrote: > > > > 3. When Mahesh was hobbling together his system of > > > meditation and he wanted to add yoga asanas, he had > > > to have a gym teacher (see the files section for his > > > original courses) make up the course for him! > > > > authfrie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread WillyTex
> > 3. When Mahesh was hobbling together his system of > > meditation and he wanted to add yoga asanas, he had > > to have a gym teacher (see the files section for his > > original courses) make up the course for him! > > authfriend wrote: > Actually, we don't "know" this. What we "know" is > that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread authfriend
Thoughtful post. If I may make a couple of comments... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > I think at best SCI and a lot of the core courses > are very successful at getting someone (like me > especially) to migrate from pure western thinking > to a balance betwee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > We know it's true because: > 3. When Mahesh was hobbling together his system of > meditation and he wanted to add yoga asanas, he had > to have a gym teacher (see the files section for his > original courses) make up the course for him! Actuall

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-28 Thread Vaj
On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:43 AM, seekliberation wrote: I heard about Earl Kaplan's accusations about a year prior to the release of his letter on FFL. That's where my suspicions were first confirmed. One of his accusations was that MMY was never officially declared a Yogi in India. I cannot co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread seekliberation
> Vaj wants to heal. Himself. By raking the TMO and TM over the coals once > again, maybe, perhaps, he'll finally be healed, he feels. Unlikely. > I did find the whole 'healing' issue a bit strange of a topic. I never felt violated by the TMO. So I never felt the need for healing, to me it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread It's just a ride
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM, authfriend wrote: > Vaj is anxious to dig up as much dirt as possible on the > TMO and MMY. He doesn't care whether it's true or not, so > you can feel free to make stuff up, like he does, if you > don't want to say anything about what you know for fact. > > Someh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > > I could go on for quite a while about things I know > > for fact, but if I do, that will only create too > > much fuel for follow on discussions that would last > > for weeks. > > You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread min.pige
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > > > > > I think the intent behind Earl's letter was not so much to state that > > Mahesh was some sort of vibe-sucker, but instead his practices--for > > what ever reason-resulted in imbalanced awakenings of the kundalini >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread It's just a ride
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > The letter is still in the files section, at > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TMO%20--%20the%20Odd%20Side/, > for those without bionic memories. > Come on, Rick. Surely most people's first memory is going to a picnic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread WillyTex
Vaj wrote: > Actually I was telling you what you > didn't know from the letter... > Letter from David Kaplan: FairfieldLife/message/26771 "If this is what Earl Caplan wrote; he should be deeply ashamed of having written it. If you choose

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2009, at 12:59 PM, It's just a ride wrote: If it was a draft, it's sense or message wouldn't have changed much. The message was that Maharishi/his family robbed the TMO blind. Also, that Kaplan had gone from saint to saint and he observed their devotes had better results and w

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, seekliber

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread It's just a ride
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, seekliberation wrote: > > I don't remember thoroughly what the letter said. I do remember what > you're talking about though, regarding imbalanced growth and 'glimpses' of > unity rather than the stabilization of it. However, I do remember well > enough to recal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, seekliberation wrote: I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. You should go ahead and share what you will. If there's a lot of discu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread seekliberation
> > I think the intent behind Earl's letter was not so much to state that > Mahesh was some sort of vibe-sucker, but instead his practices--for > what ever reason-resulted in imbalanced awakenings of the kundalini > shakti. In fact, it is believed that one sure way to induce an > imbalanc

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?

2009-07-27 Thread WillyTex
seekliberation wrote: > He claimed in the post that Maharishi > had some way of 'stealing' our energy > for himself... > Not sure if there is a 'psychic' energy that can be 'stolen' but because energy is strictly conserved and is also locally conserved, you need to remember that, by definition, the