[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real" - I know, fundamentally > and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can > appreciate the "cleverness" in that magical trick - it's only a rope > that appea

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "qntmpkt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --So which is it? Suffering is eliminated, or is it reduced? As I understand it, suffering is *transcended*. "You" (whoever "you" is) become identified with That which cannot suffer, which is beyond the plane of suffer

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread qntmpkt
--So which is it? Suffering is eliminated, or is it reduced? Occasionally, a scale of 1 to 10 is used in questionnaires to rank one's subjective level of sufferingsay migraines. Are you saying that with a rank of "k" or below, suffering is eliminated, but reduced if it's above "k" level? Or

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment at bottom: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real" - I know, fundamentally > and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can > appreciate the "cleverness" in that magical trick - it's o

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
"Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real" - I know, fundamentally and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can appreciate the "cleverness" in that magical trick - it's only a rope that appears like a snake etc; but experientially suffering is real enough. The deception then b

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Quick comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "'So both diversification and unification ... when the two come to > awareness then the hiding, the cover, also comes to awareness. So the > cover is uncovered." This is the mechanics of h

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
"'So both diversification and unification ... when the two come to awareness then the hiding, the cover, also comes to awareness. So the cover is uncovered." This is the mechanics of how we get suffering and the elimination of suffering. But suffering still dominates in the Relative, like a flo