--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The idea that one cannot "reach" Enlightenment is a typical > Neo-Advaitist idea that is only partially correct. The other side of > the Self component (since everything/everybody has not been other than > the Self); is the accompanying physiological changes; some of which > has been described since ancient times in terms of release of the > "knots". In the context of more modern notions of stress-release, MMY > alone has been at the forefront of equating Enlightenment with > corresponding levels of stress reduction (keeping in mind that active > alertness is not to be equated with a completely comatose body which > may also have minimal stress). > Thus, when isolating the physiological correlates to Enlightenment > (known and unknown), we see that there is indeed, a linear > progression. Therefore, seen in this light, one can "reach" > Enlightenment even though all is already the Self. > Besides, everybody even on an intellectual level, having read the > Upanishads, various Buddhist texts, and B.G.; already "knows" that the > world = the Self, and the Self = the world. > To say therefore, that nobody "reaches" Enlightenment is to totally > evade the whole structure of "seeking"...even to go so far as many of > the Neo-Advaitins like HWL Poonja, as to say "Give up all techniques > and just BE" > If, indeed, there were no "reaching", then TM would be pointless to > practice. But, all TM'ers with any significant length of practice are > quite familiar with TC being maintaied for longer periods of time. > The property, "longer periods of time" equates to linearity. Thus, > people do "reach" Enlightenment due to the physiological component and > the subjective element of time itself: even though time is ultimately > delusional, in terms of ordinary relative perception, time has an > arrow. The reasons behind the arrow of time are many; but we need not > know the precise reasons behind the arrow in order to experience it. >
I am enjoying your excellent reply (even though I don't know what a Neo-Advaitist is...). I agree that there are accompanying changes in the physiology as one grows towards a possible experience of enlightenment, AND that the perception as one approaches the possiblity of enlightenment is of a linear path; as you say, greater experiences of TC... BUT I hold to my perception that the subjective experience of enlightenment is completely non-linear, relative to the previous experience of almost-enlightenment. It easily transcends a logarithmic progression, or even a phase transition of any magnitude, as seen from the enlightened state looking backwards towards the almost-enlightened state. So from an enlightened state, the notion of reaching enlightenment is like reaching for a bag containing enlightenment, which turns into a zebra upon grasping it! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Does he tell you he loves you when he hits you? Abuse. Narrated by Halle Berry. http://us.click.yahoo.com/HcoraC/rbOLAA/d1hLAA/0NYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
