Resuscitating this old thread, it turns out a widely
accepted generic term for a higher state of functioning
is "flow."
"Colloquial terms for this or similar mental states
include: to be on the ball, in the moment, present,
in the zone, wired in, in the groove, or owning."
http://en.wikipedia
tartbrain:
> > As I recall, MMY talked of this, saying if I
> > remember correctly, that we Transcend once,
> > after many transcendings...
>
"Meditation takes the mind to transcendental
Self-consciousness, and a natural and balanced
activity infuses the transcendental divine nature
into th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> Sorry I missed this email earlier.
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> On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:33 PM, tartbrain wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > > > --- In F
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > Coming back to the subject of the thread, then, what
> > do you call the functioning brought about by meditation
> > and/or being present? And I'm not talking about an end
Sorry I missed this email earlier.
On Jan 19, 2011, at 11:33 PM, tartbrain wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > >> As Barry, I and others ha
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> Coming back to the subject of the thread, then, what
> do you call the functioning brought about by meditation
> and/or being present? And I'm not talking about an end
> state called "enlightenment" or "awakening." I don't think
> a g
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> >It is not what I'd call "resting in the na
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > > >> As Barry, I and others have mentio
"My understanding is that Transcendence is true chitta vrittis noroda --
permanent cessation of all vhrittis including those of satvic nature. This is
when all the sanskaras are roasted in the fire of knowledge as the Gita says. It
is the cessation of Chitta, the death of Chitta so to speak, -- whi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > >> As Barry, I and others have mentioned, it's possible to transcend the
> > >> "transcendent" experienced in T
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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>> Sounds great, and thanks for the inspiration. Now
> tell me, how is that state experienced in ignorance?
> How do we get glimpses of it? Because if it is indeed
> the ultimate reality of our being, surely traces of the
> experience
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> >> As Barry, I and others have mentioned, it's possible to transcend the
> >> "transcendent" experienced in TM or other mantra-yogas. It's a rather
> >> unsettling experience (no p
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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>> As Barry, I and others have mentioned, it's possible to transcend the
>> "transcendent" experienced in TM or other mantra-yogas. It's a rather
>> unsettling experience (no pun intended), as it feels like one has had the
>> rug pulled out f
On Jan 19, 2011, at 1:43 PM, jpgillam wrote:
> Actually, that distinction between being centered in
> thoughts and feelings or centered in consciousness
> came from a "Buddha at the Gas Pump" conversation
> with a person who has never taken any TM courses.
> It's how she explained awakening t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, jpgillam wrote:
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> > 1. Those that cultivate qualities such as compassion,
> > which I assume to be the same thing as "loving-kindness."
> > 2. Those that shift one's center from thoughts
> > and feelings to consc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> > I recall an anecdote you posted years ago in which
> > you described teaching a meditation practice in
> > Holland for three months. What did it cost you
> > and your bu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> To your objections below, Barry, you know it's
> standard practice to sell products and services
> to those who need them most. I'll bet you could
> cite examples from the work of your clients.
They're NOT selling the product to those
On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, jpgillam wrote:
1. Those that cultivate qualities such as compassion,
which I assume to be the same thing as "loving-kindness."
2. Those that shift one's center from thoughts
and feelings to consciousness itself.
It sounds to me as if you bought into the hype ra
To your objections below, Barry, you know it's
standard practice to sell products and services
to those who need them most. I'll bet you could
cite examples from the work of your clients.
> The marketing appeal is "sideways."
> "Give to us so we can help these 'at risk'
> people in society."
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
> >
> > I think that anyone suffering from PTSD who
> > learned ANY form of meditation or relaxation
> > technique would benefit from it. I mean, duh.
>
> This ^ observation touc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jpgillam" wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
> >
> > I think that anyone suffering from PTSD who
> > learned ANY form of meditation or relaxation
> > technique would benefit from it. I mean, duh.
>
> This ^ observation tou
> > I think that anyone suffering from PTSD who
> > learned ANY form of meditation or relaxation
> > technique would benefit from it. I mean, duh.
> >
jpgillam:
> That's why it's common, in pictures of people
> meditating, so see them not only sitting in a lotus
> position, but hovering a foot off
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote:
>
> I think that anyone suffering from PTSD who
> learned ANY form of meditation or relaxation
> technique would benefit from it. I mean, duh.
This ^ observation touches on an idea that's
been bugging me for a while, which is that the
cu
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