Could the Pope himself even qualify to meditate with the group?
 

 srijau writes:  This Pope does TM.
 

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge [or a meditator badge], the 
way the guidelines are. Doesn't matter if he learned TM and is a meditator.  In 
process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to me numerous times in 
applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been able to read them 
directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on up on campus. He 
works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual practices. Flat 
out.  The guy runs the org that teaches meditative techniques.  The guidelines 
are quite clear about this now.
 

 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge or 
meditator badge by our guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually 
fortified around this. The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's 
badge to meditate with in the TM meditation room downtown in Fairfield.
 

 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!
 

 Yep, the guidelines are the best we have for this regardless of the attendance 
numbers and attrition in our group or any other reasoning why people are not 
meditating in the group anymore. The science says that we as TM meditators 
clearly have increased moral reasoning and this is ultimately about morality 
and choices of what people have done. Some people just do not qualify to be in 
the group. Trust our Rajas to administrate this correctly, -JaiGuruYou
 

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge.
 

 mdixon. wrote :
 
 I think you're right. My original question was merely tongue in cheek. 
However, on my six month age of enlightenment course, M seemed to get a bit 
irritated with one fellow that referred to his catholic faith more than once. 
Seems after one such reference is when I remember M saying *THIS*(TM, age of 
enlightenment program) should be your religion.
 

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?
 
 
   I doubt very much if going to see the pope would result in not being able to 
get a dome badge in Fairfield. The very idea seems ridiculous. After, all, we 
do have a Liberal Catholic Church in FF that is made up mostly of TMers, some 
of whom go to the dome. I think the movement has always honored the practice of 
one's own religion. 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Mam, the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a job to 
do. If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniques then he has 
some 'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have to find three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him. It is just the way it works 
here now. Procedure. Was he part of that Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and 
is selling and teaching it bootleg as “Centering Prayer”? 
  
 Like others in his position he'd have some 'splainin' to do. Recently they 
been having people swear an oath that they would stop seeing saints and 
teachers like him. The Pope simply is not in a good position to get a valid 
badge to meditate with the group. -JaiGuruYou
 

 Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be 
very, very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would 
I like to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
 
 
 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield. 
 
 
 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

 

 I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge 
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".
 


 

 

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 
  

 Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community. 

 In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
 

 HAHA, excellent question.
 

 (I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)
 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?
 
 
   
 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help 
others.  We have seen it in Fairfield.  It can be just field effect of 
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow of 
shakti, a good vibration and is not necessarily uncommon.
 

 It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is 
not the only one around with that grace.     
 

 -JaiGuruYou!
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <emily.mae50@...> wrote :

 It's a  miracle (smile).  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 This caught my attention:
 

 Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

 
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
 
 Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
 "The Pope healed our baby's heart." Lynn Cassidy has no other words to explain 
what happened to her 3-month-old daughter Ave.


 
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
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