--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" <compost1uk@> wrote:
> > The "many worlds"? That's as if to say "the cat in the > > proverbial quantum mechanical box is BOTH dead AND alive > > at the same time", no? > > No. The many worlds does away with the idea of things > being both dead and alive (or electrons in more than one > place) by both (or all) states being present on a kind of > 'line of sight' slice through all possible realities. Now you see - there you go. You've lost me. "all states being present through all possible realities" So in one *world* (whatever that is!), the cat is alive. In another it is dead. My dear fellow - that IS to say "the cat in the proverbial quantum mechanical box is BOTH dead AND alive at the same time". Surely! But I do take your point - on this view, outrageously bizarre as it is, you're able to extract consciousness from the mix. You get to keep your materialism - but at what a price! I reckon it's probably the most extremely weird theory of reality ever proposed - EVER! It out-woos all woo-woo. > The measurement problem that started the whole mystic > physics thing is, according to the theory, due to > electrons being present in all possible universes, > rather than just ours. They are interfering with > themselves rather than our consciousness or experiments > interfering with *them*. Clever eh? Interfering with themselves, eh? ;-) Damn clever! Who'd have thought they had it in them? > > Is that any better than "it's neither one nor t'other till > > we stick our nose in the box"? Does the one *explanation* > > dispel our metaphysical fog any better than the other? > > You bet. Either we live in a world where we (or god or > consciousness) somehow create the reality we perceive in > a literal sense or we don't. The multiverse idea (amongst > most others) puts us firmly in the latter. And it's provable, > apparently. I'd like to understand how! Could there be a critical test that would falsify either the Many Worlds or the Copenhagen interpretion? How does building a quantum computer falsify the latter? How on earth *could* you falsify the former?