--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" <fintlewoodle...@...> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" <compost1uk@> wrote:

> > The "many worlds"? That's as if to say "the cat in the 
> > proverbial quantum mechanical box is BOTH dead AND alive
> > at the same time", no?
> 
> No. The many worlds does away with the idea of things
> being both dead and alive (or electrons in more than one 
> place) by both (or all) states being present on a kind of 
> 'line of sight' slice through all possible realities.

Now you see - there you go. You've lost me.

"all states being present through all possible realities"
So in one *world* (whatever that is!), the cat is alive.
In another it is dead. My dear fellow - that IS to say "the
cat in the proverbial quantum mechanical box is BOTH dead AND
alive at the same time". Surely!

But I do take your point - on this view, outrageously bizarre
as it is, you're able to extract consciousness from the mix.
You get to keep your materialism - but at what a price! I
reckon it's probably the most extremely weird theory of
reality ever proposed - EVER! It out-woos all woo-woo.

> The measurement problem that started the whole mystic
> physics thing is, according to the theory, due to 
> electrons being present in all possible universes,
> rather than just ours. They are interfering with 
> themselves rather than our consciousness or experiments 
> interfering with *them*. Clever eh?

Interfering with themselves, eh? ;-) 
Damn clever! Who'd have thought they had it in them?

> > Is that any better than "it's neither one nor t'other till
> > we stick our nose in the box"? Does the one *explanation*
> > dispel our metaphysical fog any better than the other?
> 
> You bet. Either we live in a world where we (or god or
> consciousness) somehow create the reality we perceive in
> a literal sense or we don't. The multiverse idea (amongst 
> most others) puts us firmly in the latter. And it's provable,
> apparently. 

I'd like to understand how! Could there be a critical test
that would falsify either the Many Worlds or the Copenhagen
interpretion? How does building a quantum computer falsify
the latter? How on earth *could* you falsify the former?

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