On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
> My bet is that the only people who will be taken
> in by this "study" are those who were taken in
> long ago, and are trying to avoid having to admit
> that they *were* taken in.
>
So, how much would you be willing to
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > According to what I've read, there have been several
> > independent studies that indicate that the practice
> > of TM lowers blood pressure.
> >
Vaj wrote:
> In many ways this is just like the "TM coherence"
> scam
>
Like I said, you
On Dec 13, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Vaj wrote:
> There's been a lot of desperation from the TM side
> as their "science" has been shown to be unsound,
> esp. their cardiac claims. This is merely another
> attempt to side-step those findings.
>
The claim that TM lowers blood
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:35 PM, feste37 wrote:
The argument isn't over TM
and blood pressure, it's (1) how the TMO sees science as just a tool
to be manipulated to sell its products and (2) how TBs point to blood
pressure study to "prove TM works" really meaning "everything MMY
says
about anythi
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:10 PM, feste37 wrote:
No it is not. If you are reduced to claiming that someone "really
meant" something quite different from what he actually wrote, there is
no possibility of any meaningful discusssion.
OK, suit yourself. But that seems to be the subtext behind the oft
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:14 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
I wonder if many movement people have any issues with BP? I would
think that with a health conscious group this would be kind of a non
issue. Certainly not enough to spend this much time on. Eat well,
exercise, and hope you don't have a gen
On Jan 1, 2008, at 11:39 AM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
Is there anyone here besides me who has actually read original TM
research studies? Anyone here with enough science background, and
importantly statistical methods education, to understand what you are
reading? Does anyone here understand that
