Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Wrong. According to Alex, it was Doug who deprived Turq of his posting access. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Unless Alex was wrong, Doug didn't do anything. It was Rick that gave Turq a time out. This seems very Shakespearean or much ado about nothing. I still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) But your support for him has eliminated you from the FFL dead pool so in the end your choice my be the wise one here if you still care to post. I resent the implication. Standard Curtis. As it happens, I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

P.S.: Note also that the quote itself states an opinion as if it were fact. Opsie! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Oddly enough, that quote (?) doesn't seem to appear in the archives. Wherever you got it from, it would be interesting if you were able to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Oddly enough, that quote (?) doesn't seem to appear in the archives. Wherever you got it from, it would be interesting if you were able to refute what I wrote. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What is past is past. Long live the present, an infinitesimal slice

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?

Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

The posts in question were made on May 25. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Here are the last few days by message number. Note that Doug is omitted because he's sent to another message box as well as he who shall remain nameless. 416851: PostCount

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

With my posts?? I thought you were looking for Barry's posts. None of mine have been deleted, as far as I'm aware. What does playing up mean? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : That's odd then because it's only playing up with your posts.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL by the Numbers

Another post from turqb was also deleted that was even more vicious. Not sure of the number, but it's quoted in full in #415504 from seventhray. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Four May 25 posts #415498 to #415501 are missing, but are in my e-mail. The first

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) So far Doug has stonewalled us on his reasons for banning Barry. So some are making

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reaffirming The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines

This was my response to So some are making up their own... NOT So far Doug has stonewalled us... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Nope, that's a story *you* made up. Nobody's doing that. You are full of it Judy - show us the post where Doug gave the explanation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doing full justice to something magnificant

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The other part of Ann's post was that Rick told her he had been bombarded with complaints (presumably from more than one person) about the unpleasantness on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doing full justice to something magnificant

The other part of Ann's post was that Rick told her he had been bombarded with complaints (presumably from more than one person) about the unpleasantness on FFL. Curtis, I wouldn't have made a big issue of this if it weren't for the fact that you assert this made-up story in virtually every

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Yahoo-Groups Guidelines

Seems to me you're missing a couple of things here, Xeno. Xeno wrote, in part: For example there is a wide range of intelligence here. Now somebody, we are not saying who, must be the stupidest person on FFL, though in all fairness, they may have all moved over to The Peak, that phallic

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I think this excess of caution from you and others, frankly, is just another way to express resistance to the new moderation regime, by making it seem far more

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No, you have not got it right, period. My hypothesis is your asking about how I was parsing levels of intelligence was simply to extend this discussion interminably, a per your previous custom. My bringing up the subject of 'the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

I meant your extend this discussion interminably, a [sic] per your previous custom hypothesis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Your hypothesis is once again way off base. You've picked up that canard

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

Oh, Barry, you doofus, you screwed up AGAIN. Twice in one morning! You need more coffee, or stronger coffee, or more sleep, or something. All that writing time wasted... NOWHERE did I claim to represent the feelings of all people who practice TM. I was quite obviously speaking of the same

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

Also funny is that if you were to tell him he was being antagonistic, he'd immediately reply that the only antagonism was a reflection of your reactive state of mind, not anything for which he was responsible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Xeno, you have to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Buh By

As long as I'm still here... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : [...]The Doug as CEO (his term) of FFL seems to be a case of someone wanting control of what other people say on the forum who was not popularly supported to take that role with us. There was

[FairfieldLife] Re: On Gratuitous invasions of privacy

Just popping back in quickly with a helpful note: It's absurdly easy to find a post via the Website when you have the post number, which was provided by the moderator in this case. Just go to the Message View page. At the top, under the banner photo to the right, is a box labeled Message #,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

I note that while you frequently demand that other people define their terms, you have not been willing to define stupidest (and now smartest) that you've been harping on recently. Why would that be, I wonder? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I was not around

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Intelligence Quotient (IQ) as determined by the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale. That should be sufficient. And you propose to determine this measurement for FFL members (especially for those no longer posting here) how?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show

LOL. Cheers! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks Xeno...I'll try to post more often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I was not around today, but we want to keep FFL. My suggestion was only at the potential heels of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

P.S.: You may also want to think about justifying the use of the Wechsler IQ scale (assuming it can be determined for each FFL member) for evaluation of members, given the questions that have been raised about its utility (e.g., to base a concept of intelligence on IQ test scores alone is to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

Thanks, I think... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Judy at her finest!! From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

FWIW, Buck hasn't been around for quite some time now. The person appointed to moderate FFL (i.e., to ensure posts do not violate the Yahoo Guidelines) is Doug Hamilton. That should answer at least some of your questions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

My recollection is that Doug was here, as Doug, for quite awhile after you joined us before becoming Buck. Maybe someone else remembers the chronology more clearly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

Revealing someone's real name if they prefer to remain anonymous is against the rules. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Uh oh! Seem like Buck himself used to say that revealing someone's real name on FFL is agin the rules! Look like I might not be the first

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

OIC. So you're just guessing as to IQ scores when you talk about the stupidest person and the smartest person on FFL. Have I got it right now? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

I'm sorry you were antagonized by my asking about your thought processes concerning your new smartest/stupidest kick. It didn't occur to me that you would consider it intrusive. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : No, I am not going to think about it. I probably would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

Regarding your snippage below, Rick's policy has always been that the use of real names is prohibited only if the person wishes to remain anonymous. Doug uses his real first name to sign his posts, and his last name is in the header of his posts, so there was no need to snip it. Mine isn't in

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Coded Message - What the Recent Moderation Is Really About

Interestingly, the moderation approach Doug has chosen, which Barry has vehemently denounced--in which offending posts are deleted secretly behind the scenes with no explanation--will actually protect transgressors from being shamed by anybody (crazed or otherwise). I guess the Game of Thrones

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fancy that!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fancy that!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show

Some people, Jason, just have very weird sexual fantasies. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : In case you missed some of the old stuff that was in your absence, here it is, 11. It was a medical issue. The constant presence of Jim's, Nabby's, Steve's, and Ann's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fancy that!

Doug, if I could make a suggestion--I'm not sure everyone here understands what the term moderation actually refers to since it's never really been in effect here. Some seem to think it means nothing less than expulsion from the group. I'm not clear myself about how you plan to handle things.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confusion

I think this excess of caution from you and others, frankly, is just another way to express resistance to the new moderation regime, by making it seem far more onerous than it has any likelihood of turning out to be. Doug will get bounced as moderator by Rick if he overdoes things, and he knows

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I think former TM teachers fear the C word because of the D word

--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, reverse_archery@... wrote : Here's even more from Barry about me - Kaopectate, anyone?? :-) Now, *that* is impressive. Here I was, thinking my lengthy epitaph meant I was important, but my measly 1,700 words pales to insignificance beside the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : I suppose, if she does not return, this post (below) will be her epitaph. Gee, an epitaph of over 1,700 words. I guess I must have been pretty darned important, huh? aryavaszhi wrote: The people I admire most in my

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?

LOL. Guess it was harder than he thought. ;-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Nothing you would know about it would you? :-) :-) :-) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/261448

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: List Culture and The FFL Post Count

Nice of you to allow Lawson to do something he's already done, and to tell everyone how they should be interpreting my comments. Nope, nothing to do with worth or not worth, not an insult, and most certainly not an FOAD. Sorry you're so confused, Barry. But it's pretty silly to pretend

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What's so hard about leaving a place and actually *leaving* it?

Oh, climb down off your high horse. This isn't about disagreement, it's about one group of people--one individual in particular--treating another group of people badly. And indeed, that one individual has many times asserted that he does it specifically to annoy and upset his targets. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: back and forth (Time to come clean Doug)

I don't think Doug was implying any such thing. I think that's what some inferred, incorrectly. I think he was pointing out that after discussion between him and Rick, RIck had given him the authority to bounce people, but that Rick was still the chief authority. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

FYI, this morning and afternoon Barry, Sal2, salyavin, Michael, and Xeno have been busy cobbling together an alternate version of reality that will presumably enable them to feel better about themselves. The different, er, perspective is quite remarkable. ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

That's twice you've lost the plot about Doug's request. It was addressed to you and me concerning our exchange--you know, the one in which you said snotty things about me based on an erroneous assumption, and I said a couple of (less)-snotty things back. That's what he was objecting to, not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jamesalan735@... wrote : What a piss ant “apology”. You spend so much time trolling through posts to point out ‘who said what, when’. Then, when someone calls you on a mistake, you say that you ‘sure ain’t gonna go trawling through posts’. Listen,

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

BARRY BULLETIN: Barry's in a state of some considerable confusion. He's accusing Doug of having brought up Subud here and of seeming to promote it; he wonders whether Doug has been secretly *practicing* Subud for some time. Of course it was Mike Dixon who brought it up (see last quoted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

Below is Barry's comment on my bulletin (posted only a little over a half-hour later--he must have been checking FFL every hour or so). Note that he doesn't acknowledge his biggest goof, that it was Doug who brought up Subud. That wasn't part of the joke; that was Barry being so anxious to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

Curtis, this is about as convincing as your previous attempt to call me dishonest for purportedly quoting Barry out of context. And your attempts to cast Doug as dishonest are equally flabby. Whole lot of mind-reading going on, isn't there? As well as guilty-until-proven-innocent on the basis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

UPDATE: Although Barry has insisted he will never read FFL posts, in fact he is doing exactly that. This morning he quoted my post to JR in which I noted that Doug had kicked out Barry, Xeno, and MJ not because they were critical of the TMO, but because of their defiant incivility. Barry

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

CORRECTION: Over on FFL2, Barry swears hysterically that he didn't say he would never read FFL posts. I thought he had; if not, my apologies. If he did say it and is lying now, I'll allow him to get away with it, because I sure ain't gonna go trawling through his FFL2 posts looking for the one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

CORRECTION: Over on FFL2, Barry swears hysterically that he didn't say he would never read FFL posts. If not, my apologies; I thought I remembered he had. If he did say that and is lying now, I'll let him get away with it, because I sure ain't gonna trawl through his FFL2 posts to find the one

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

Because the posts in question had to do with Doug and FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I'm not sure I see the point of these Barry bulletins. Why don't you post them on FFL2? Barry is no longer on this forum, and I doubt whether anyone here wants to

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Of course it was Mike Dixon who brought it up Me: This Judy nitpick is such a classic. It reveals both humor impairment as well as an ability to completely miss

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) All I know is that Barry's spirit has possessed some people here fer real real. First he forced them to click on his posts when he was on FFL and to read whatever he wrote that offended them. Now his magical woo woo has

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : snip Doug (not Buck) said he hadn't heard Maharishi say anything about Subud. (Barry made fun of him for that, but then t3rinity chimed in that he hadn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

P.S.: This may be unpleasant and embarrassing for you, Curtis, but in the interests of adjusting your perspective in the direction of reality, you might want to keep an eye on Barry's FFL2 posts yourself, noting how many of them have been about moi. (Count the lies in his current post about our

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake (lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) Me: I'll just take you at your word. You see Barry enjoys what he is doing and doesn't complain that he would be writing all sorts of other wonderful stuff if only you would stop posting about him. (snip)

[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Of course it was Mike Dixon who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

I think Doug's right in this case. Salyavin was being quite snotty, assuming erroneously that my post on t3rinity's email was gratuitous; and I got a little snotty back. The exchange wouldn't have improved from there. At least now anybody who's curious knows my post on FFL2 was not at all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

salyavin wrote: I thought it inadvertently revealed who Judy is. Imagine the thought process that remembered a post from long ago that she thought might be embarrassing to two people, searching for it, joining the group and hoping it does the job she never managed to do herself. Who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fascinating Post, Judy

I suppose it's not impossible karma was working behind the scenes, but the reason Doug threw them off was their openly defiant incivility, not their views on the TMO. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Thanks, Alex. I seems that Natural Law has taken effect, given the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Carson Takes the Lead Among GOP Candidates

Carson--speaking for himself--is apparently not interested in Daniel's calculations or the concept of "divine timelines." He explicitly rejects anything but six 24-hour human days as the time it took God to do Creation from start to finish (plus one such day of rest, of course). Ain't no wiggle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Carson Takes the Lead Among GOP Candidates

And the thing is, this country explicitly forbids any kind of religious litmus test for presidential eligibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Carson's religious beliefs are in fact no more strange than that of most evangelical Christians. I don't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Carson Takes the Lead Among GOP Candidates

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : BTW Judy, here is a photo of my Peregrine falcon that I caught a couple of years ago. Sandy is getting ready for the hunting season right now. See attachment below. She sure is gorgeous.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Carson Takes the Lead Among GOP Candidates

He believes the earth existed for a long time before God decided to start creating...but then it took God only six 24-hour days to finish the job. Seriously. That's what he says he believes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : MD, I know he graduated from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ben Carson Takes the Lead Among GOP Candidates

He's been very clear that he means human 24-hour days, Mike. He explicitly rejects the "million years to a day" notion. Sorry! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course, what is a *day* or an *hour* in the life of God? The Vedic literature refers to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

It's not at all amazing. His shtick is the confessional redemption narrative, how he was lost, then turned into a wonderful person when he found God. If that's your cuppa tea, his misspent youth will make him very appealing. It's what has sold his books and what he hopes will propel him into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

What does that have to do with anything I said? I was responding directly to your point; please do me the same courtesy rather than changing the subject. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The FBI is looking into it. Are they looking into Ben Carson? From:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

??? What do Hillary's emails have to do with it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ROFLMAO! Nothing to hide verses 30,000 E-mails. From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

It's the State Department emails they're concerned about, of course. What is your *problem*, Mike? You just aren't making any sense. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Why would the security of her server be an issue if they were only Yoga routines and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

Hillary herself isn't under investigation, Mike. The FBI's investigation has to do with the security of her server. And Carson has had no problem convincing people that he was a "bad boy." It's the basis of his popularity, as I said already. That's now being questioned by a few, but it isn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ben Carson Memes

No, she separated the personal from the State Department emails. You know this. I have no idea what game you're playing, but it sure doesn't do you any credit. It appears that you're doing your best to avoid the Carson issues. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Explosions in Paris

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Gosh, I guess I've been imagining all the news clips from Paris then shown on CNN.com, Sky and a few other news sites. If you thought they were footage of the attacks, yes, you were imagining them. FYI, "talking heads" refers

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Explosions in Paris

There aren't any "clips of the attacks," and the talking heads (and anchors and correspondents and witnesses) are live. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One thing we know for sure: Americans will be glued to their TVs tonight watching repetitive clips of the

[FairfieldLife] "We Are United"--Muslim Students of France

NousSommesUnis - Etudiants Musulmans de France NousSommesUnis - Etudiants Musulmans de France EMF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUCMBuAQNs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUCMBuAQNs NousSommesUnis - Etudiants Musulmans de France EMF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVUCMBuAQNs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Perisian bomber was Syrian *refugee*

Just for the record, three of the attackers have been identified as French citizens. The other four (or five) have not yet been identified. The possible eighth attacker, who is still at large, lived in Belgium, as did two of the French attackers and a bunch of people who are suspected of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Explosions in Paris

If I were a Muslim living in Paris, or just in France, I'd feel like I was taking my life in my hands to go on some kind of mass march. Too many right-wing haters could take a shot at me in ostensible retaliation. A lot of Muslims have taken to social media to denounce the attacks; at least

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

Actually, Mike, Rubio told a bunch of falsehoods. Have a look at this article from Slate.com by William Saletan: Marco Rubio Has Decided His Best Strategy Is to Lie About Hillary Clinton and Benghazi

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pyramids Were Built to Store Grains

Yup. Dude needs brain surgery. Whose idiocy was the Mars rover on the moon? I missed that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Gz. That ranks right up there with wanting the Mars rover to roll over to the American flag planted by the first Astronauts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Lie to Get Ahead?

Yes, I found the Shapiro article earlier. Thing is, in all Carson's retellings of the West Point story, he *implies* that he applied, was accepted, and was granted a full scholarship, but decided not to go. What he said was distinctly misleading, and it appears Politico was misled. CNN

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Lie to Get Ahead?

ROTC was not in a position to "offer to send him to West Point," nor to "offer" him a "scholarship." There are no "scholarships" to West Point anyway; once you've been accepted, it's free. ROTC was only in a position to recommend him if he wanted to go, which he didn't. There's a big difference

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

Read the whole article, not just the first few paragraphs. Saletan uses lots of different sources for the things Clinton said, including videotape of her saying them that shows Rubio to have misrepresented her statements. And if you look at the Times reports Saletan cites, they obviously

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

Even though he's often just as critical of liberals...I see. You could always look at Factcheck.org's timeline (Saletan links to it). You can verify the entries to make sure they're accurate, because they give you explicit citations for each one. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

Ohhh, Mike, you're smarter than this, better than this. The vast majority of Saletan's sources are from the public record--e.g., video of Clinton's public remarks, text of her public statements. You can watch and read them for yourself. Nowhere does she blame the attack on just the video,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

One more thing, Mike. You gave no source for what you posted; I had to track it down. Nor does the piece itself give any sources for any of its claims. In contrast, I linked to Saletan's article in Slate.com. And it is impeccable in citing sources for all its assertions, as well as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

FWIW, this is from Newsmax, a very right-wing and highly unreliable "news" outlet. Not only that, it isn't from a Newsmax article, it's from a reader comment--in other words, no editorial control or fact-checking. The dude who wrote it has sent and posted it all over the place (do a Google

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

FYI, "shooting the messenger" refers to a *blameless* messenger. It isn't shooting the messenger to point out that he is unreliable, especially when his message accuses somebody of criminal acts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Judy, you're just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

P.S.: In jurisprudence, it's called "impeaching the witness" and is entirely legal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : FYI, "shooting the messenger" refers to a *blameless* messenger. It isn't shooting the messenger to point out that he is unreliable, especially

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pyramids Were Built to Store Grains

Here's the commencement speech: The Andrews Experience- Dr. Ben Carson 1998 Graduation key note speaker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrqShRhxJBM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrqShRhxJBM The Andrews Experience- Dr. Ben Carson 1998 Graduati...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Lie to Get Ahead?

Well, what you describe of Schapiro's piece is iffy as well. "Had dinner with" implies a tete-a-tete, but apparently this was a brief exchange--according to Carson's own spokesman--at a banquet. And it wasn't on the date Carson said it was. My guess on this is that the guy who ghost-wrote

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Lie to Get Ahead?

The NYTimes just put up a story on this. Excerpt: In an interview with The New York Times on Friday, Mr. Carson said: “I don’t remember all the specific details. Because I had done so extraordinarily well you know I was told that someone like me – they could get a scholarship to West

Re: [FairfieldLife] Does Ben Carson Lie to Get Ahead?

dead link for Schapiro If I had attacked people as a teen, it's very likely everyone in my school would have known about it, and I'd have had a reputation for violence. Don't give me "liberal hit pieces." Right-wingers are the hit-piece champions. Politico has done plenty of hit pieces on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

Just to be clear, Mike, I wasn't accusing you of being dishonest; I don't think you are. I do think you're seriously misled by what you're reading and hearing from the right wing media and politicians. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : (snip) And no, it isn't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

I didn't accuse him of criminal activity, Mike. BIG difference. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But didn't you just do to him what you're accusing him of doing to Hillary, questioning the integrity of the person in question? From: "authfriend@...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

It's meaningless if the messenger isn't blameless. Of course you want people to know if the messenger is unreliable and biased. It's a warning that they should reserve judgment. He makes too many assertions for me to check them out; I don't have the time or resources. And I never said he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Krauthammer on the Clinton Foundation

BTW, Mike, the mainstream media would be *thrilled* to be able to document a genuine Clinton scandal with actual facts. If they haven't done so this time around, it's because the facts just ain't there. BTW 2, the mainstream media isn't all that "librul." They're centrist. And the Republican

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The NASA blurb is all self-serving PR about how their current missions will allow them further exploration of space. Not even a replacement for TANG has been developed - lol...As for satellite tech, yes that is useful, and why

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sudden Awakening and Gradual Cultivation

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Why would NASA speak about colonizing *anything*?? ollieollieollie, it was you who just wrote, "When asked, the people involved mention some fantasy about colonizing other planets." It sort of proves my point that such a

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