Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Nicu Buculei
Matthias Clasen wrote: 22x22 is just a really bad idea, since it breaks everybody who follows the earlier recommendation to install a 48x48, which scales down nicely to 24x24. Also in the age of rising dpi, it doesn't make much sense to make icons even smaller... Agreed, even the value of 22 s

Tree-view grid lines in Fedora theme

2007-09-17 Thread Peter Bloomfield
Greetings! I'm a new subscriber to this list. Fedora artwork rocks! I always feel that folks glancing over my shoulder will see a really sophisticated desktop. But (of course, there's a 'but') a recent Fedora default theme sets vertical grid lines in GtkTreeView--and they're not nice su

Re: Echo: Wrong metaphor for save/save as

2007-09-17 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
> > BTW, are you the guy who attended at Libre Graphics Meeting 2007 at > Montreal > with cellphone drawing demonstration using Inkscape? > Eee, no. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fed

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Mark
Oke.. i adjusted some of the critics - Fatter border - no transparency - changed the light a little - changed the shadow a little - changed overall color gradients a little I can't make it so that the box would be gap less when you would close it.. but that's to much of detail for "just an icon"..

Revised Echo guideline draft

2007-09-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I made some modifications on the draft Echo guideline concerning. 22x22 and 24x24 is grouped on small category size. Missing in the draft are an illustration of the lighting and shadow that will be sightly altered. Stay tuned. Suggestion is welcome. Luya ___

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 20:11 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 19:53 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 18:51 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you add > > > >

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 00:35 +0200, Mark wrote: > Oke new attempt. > I've really outdone myself.. this image is made from scratch > I think it looks better and it fits the echo theme (or that's my opinion) > My opinion quite differs from yours, I don't think it fits the Echo theme, bellow I'll expl

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Mark
Oke new attempt. I've really outdone myself.. this image is made from scratch I think it looks better and it fits the echo theme (or that's my opinion) Take a look at the images [1] (16x16), [2] (64x64), [3] (128x128), [4] (256x256) and the SVG [5]. The whole box idea is changed in this image. Th

Echo: Wrong metaphor for save/save as

2007-09-17 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Hi, it's me, again. I want to tell you about save and save as icons: they're using wrong metaphor. Tango! and GNOME migrated from floppy icon to hdd. You should too. ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mail

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Mark
> You maybe call it border. I see it only on the bottom parts of the nox > and that's wrong. It should be around whole box - it helps to define the > shape against various backgrounds. > > Martin O that. the default icon doesn't have that.. i only made the current borders a little fatter i'm makin

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Rogue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Sourada wrote: >>> Also, during the review I have done for Echo icons, I have found that >>> some applications do not install their icons into the hicolor icon theme >>> while they are recommended to do so [2]. >> 22x22 is just a really bad id

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 21:41 +0200, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Three words: I LOVE IT :D !!! > Ok, ok, emotions ;) . > Seems you two have quite a lot different taste from me and Luya. I completely dislike this icon... > This icon is great: bright... nice! > Yep, that's the problem for me. It'

Re: Echo: Wrong metaphor for save/save as

2007-09-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek a écrit : > Hi, it's me, again. > > I want to tell you about save and save as icons: they're using wrong > metaphor. > You mean the very old metaphor that exist ssince the use of the old floppy disk back to the 80's. BTW, are you the guy who attended at Libre Graphics Me

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 22:46 +0200, Mark wrote: > Interesting reply's > i will make a second attempt and this time with those icon guidelines > + color palette. > > @ Martin: "partly missing outline" > > What do you mean by that? You maybe call it border. I see it only on the bottom parts of the

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Desktop Live Echo Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Repost, for some reasons the reply won't show up on mail-list. > > In my opinion it is better to use Mist iconset even in F9, F10 etc. Don't you think it is premature given neither release is out and there areabout six mounths distance? > > > Echo on this stage aren't ready. Also, Echo will be mess

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Mark
Interesting reply's i will make a second attempt and this time with those icon guidelines + color palette. @ Martin: "partly missing outline" What do you mean by that? ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/ma

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Desktop Live Echo Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > In my opinion it is better to use Mist iconset even in F9, F10 etc. Don't you think it is premature given neither release is out and there are about six mounths distance? >Echo on this stage aren't ready. Also, Echo will be messing around >with sty

Re: Echo: Wrong metaphor for save/save as

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 22:19 +0200, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Hi, it's me, again. > > I want to tell you about save and save as icons: they're using wrong > metaphor. > Tango! and GNOME migrated from floppy icon to hdd. You should too. > +1 from me, but I would list this as a very low prior

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
Three words: I LOVE IT :D !!! Ok, ok, emotions ;) . This icon is great: bright... nice! ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-art-list

Re: Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Mark a écrit : > Please note that this is my first ever edit in SVG files and my first > time in inkscape (all edits are done in inkscape). > Ok. > I don't know (yet) how to export the png's of all sizes (16px, 22px, > 24px 32px etc... help would be welcome here). > File->Export to bitmap. Ch

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Sat, 2007-09-15 at 00:40 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Hi folks, > > I installed Fedora 8 Test 2 last night, and after updating it I took > some time tonight to take screenshots of the application menus to show > what the icons look like in a default installation of Fedora (well > except I i

Echo: "package-x-generic" attempt

2007-09-17 Thread Mark
Hey, There was another topic here (Echo bad) where i filed my "list" of complaints about alot of the current echo icon theme. One of them is the package-x-generic icon (or just the update/box icon). So i grabbed the SVG and edited it here and there. I also changed the sizes a little (fatter border

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 19:53 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 18:51 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you add > > > > > > gtk-icon-sizes="panel-foobar=24,24:panel-menu=24,24" > > > > > > t

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 18:51 +0200, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you add > > > > gtk-icon-sizes="panel-foobar=24,24:panel-menu=24,24" > > > > to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and try again ? Does it look better ? > > > > So, this

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 12:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > Can you add > > gtk-icon-sizes="panel-foobar=24,24:panel-menu=24,24" > > to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 and try again ? Does it look better ? > So, this helps for apps that only install a 48x48 app icon, like gthumb, but it makes the s

Positive review of Fedora 8 test 2 look and feel (including Nodoka)

2007-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi http://blogbeebe.blogspot.com/2007/09/fedora-8-test-2-nano-review.html "The look and feel of the entire graphic desktop has been advanced and polished quite a bit from earlier versions, including Fedora 7. The overall color theme is still blue, but the controls and window border use Nodoka

Re: Echo bad

2007-09-17 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: So, Fedora 9 will include Echo icons (surely) As has been said already, that decision will be made depending on how well the theme coverage is among other factors. You might want to avoid making such assertions on your own. Other icon themes can very well exist

Re: Echo bad

2007-09-17 Thread Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek
So, Fedora 9 will include Echo icons (surely) - I must to be ready for Tangoish-Attack (Tangoish icons replacing all Fedora icons and pixmaps for applications). ___ Fedora-art-list mailing list Fedora-art-list@redhat.com http://www.redhat.com/mailman/

Re: Infinity GDM mockup

2007-09-17 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 17 septembre 2007 09:25, Nicu Buculei a écrit : > Máirín Duffy wrote: >> Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done >> by >> Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add >> the > > It seems easier to edit compared with Flying High, where de dial

Re: Echo bad

2007-09-17 Thread Martin Sourada
On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 22:21 +0200, Mark wrote: > Thanx for the quick reply's > at this moment i'm still kinda struggling with inkshape and i'm stuck with it. > > 1. Oke. the SVG's don't have the shodows that i see in the png? so how > do you add those in the SVG? > As Nicu said, use blur filter

Re: Fedora 8 Test 2 Icon Review

2007-09-17 Thread Nicu Buculei
Máirín Duffy wrote: Is it worth it to take some time to make sure the initial set of icons in the menus for a default Fedora install all have perfect and consistent coverage? Is it possible to address all these issues? The "web browser" and "email" icon are placed (as they should be, as ess

Re: Infinity GDM mockup

2007-09-17 Thread Nicu Buculei
Máirín Duffy wrote: Okay, I have a working GDM theme now, it mostly uses the work done by Tobias Oelgarte for Avio. If you'd like to try it out, you can add the It seems easier to edit compared with Flying High, where de dialog was composed from a lot of blocks. Would it be better to use Dej