Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Nicu Buculei wrote: I dont consider it a step back. In both cases the concepts was drawn and worked up a team and Diana Fong did the final work. The difference here might that Mola talked over IRC while John Baer didnt. That's just different working styles and prefered modes of interaction.

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Nicu Buculei wrote: And at the end, here is what I see as a proof of lack of goodwill: have a look at http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=60 Scroll down to the credit section. Do you notice there a familiar name? Maybe John Baer who came up with the idea? Me neither... FYI, the credit is for the use

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Joachim Frieben
The quality criteria is so subjective that is just too easy to use is as a strawman. Ah, and what the hell then entitles you to claim that FC6 has had the best artwork of all Fedora releases? In my opinion, FC6 artwork already showed first signs of sloppyness. Only think of the installer

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Nicu Buculei
Joachim Frieben wrote: The quality criteria is so subjective that is just too easy to use is as a strawman. Ah, and what the hell then entitles you to claim that FC6 has had the best artwork of all Fedora releases? In my opinion, FC6 artwork already showed first signs of sloppyness. Only

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Uno Engborg
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I dont consider it a step back. In both cases the concepts was drawn and worked up a team and Diana Fong did the final work. The difference here might that Mola talked over IRC while John Baer didnt. That's just different working styles and prefered

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Uno Engborg wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I dont consider it a step back. In both cases the concepts was drawn and worked up a team and Diana Fong did the final work. The difference here might that Mola talked over IRC while John Baer didnt. That's just different working

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-16 Thread Uno Engborg
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Uno Engborg wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Nicu Buculei wrote: I dont consider it a step back. In both cases the concepts was drawn and worked up a team and Diana Fong did the final work. The difference here might that Mola talked over IRC while John Baer didnt.

Artwork conversations

2007-02-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Apologies for the long post but this touches a broader topic. So be patient and you will reach the see the light or at the end of my email. Are we ready? Good. I had a opportunity to talk to Diana Fong during FUDCon Boston 2007 after she came up to talk to me about my perspectives and

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-15 Thread John Baer
Rahul, Thank you for responding to this thread. I hope things went well at FUDCon Boston. Apologies for the long post but this touches a broader topic. +1 Let me state the problem here is not Diana, the problem here is Fedora. There was never any question in my mind of Diana's skill but Diana

Re: Artwork conversations

2007-02-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
John Baer wrote:. If Fedora is going to be open source then Fedora needs to embrace open source. The fact Diana was crafting Fedora final artwork off line with no communication to the team is not open source. It has nothing to do with polish or talent and has everything to do with equality,