Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
I decided to take some initiative to do a mockup for future Fedora desktop. Description available on : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/mockups You notice some texts are missing but the concept only gives some glimpses about the desktop. SVG version is available for modifications.

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Nicu Buculei
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: I decided to take some initiative to do a mockup for future Fedora desktop. Description available on : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/mockups This is not the first mockup I see where the menu in anchored to the right. I wonder about its usability:

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 19 octobre 2006 11:38, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit : I decided to take some initiative to do a mockup for future Fedora desktop. Description available on : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/mockups You notice some texts are missing but the concept only gives some glimpses

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. 2. the proposed title/menu bars are much too wasteful of space. It may work

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Máirín Duffy
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got. Luya, I received this message 6 times, most with a

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas - Initial concept

2006-10-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 20 octobre 2006 à 01:41 +0800, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit : Some feedback : 1. the blue used is much too agressive, while I agree we should move away from gray-only the UI should stay unobstrusive, quiet and out-of-the-way. I agree, I was just extract most of idas I got.

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-18 Thread seawolf
Ah, right. It's been a while since I've fiddled with GNOME and I misundestood: I thought the theme included both bits and we were considering both. My bad, sorry. Asides from the rounded corners to some bits (which, tbh, wouldn't really fit in with the rest, given square buttons etc) I think

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-18 Thread Leo
On Wed, 18/10/06 10:31 +0100, seawolf wrote: Ah, right. It's been a while since I've fiddled with GNOME and I misundestood: I thought the theme included both bits and we were considering both. My bad, sorry. We will consider both, of course. But metacity-theme-2¹ has been in gnome 2.17 and

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread seawolf
On 17/10/06, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Máirín Duffy wrote: Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: * Echo development icons is set to be the default. This I think is pending a lot of different factors so I don't know that we can assure this for FC7. With the main factor being our

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread seawolf
Let's try that one again :-) On 17/10/06, Luya Tshimbalanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Since there is a lot KDE users, provide the artworks to smoothly blend with Gnome applications. I'm not sure what you mean by smoothly blend with GNOME applications? Do you mean the theming work for

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Nicu Buculei
seawolf wrote: I think the early part of the development cycle could be bugfixing or something of the sort, especially in the KDE case here, to get things I see bugfixing as an ongoing activity, parallel to the new theme development. started. I don't know how many FC users on this list

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread seawolf
Barely moments ago, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see bugfixing as an ongoing activity, parallel to the new theme development. True, my thinking was if KDE users had a starting point to the dev cyc, bug fixes could be good, just to get the wheels rolling. Why limit it to listing

GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Máirín Duffy
Leo wrote: On Mon, 16/10/06 17:51 +0100, Máirín Duffy wrote: Developing a theme is pretty difficult time-consuming but if we can get some good mockups early on then it'd be easier to hit FC7. I'd suggest Murrine GTK2 Cairo Engine¹. I have been using MurrinaGilouche² which is based on this

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Máirín Duffy
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Given there is not a schedule for FC7, it would be a good opportunity to work on icons rather than waiting. Is anybody waiting to work on them? If anyone wants to work on them and help the effort, then by all means go ahead. I didn't know that anyone was waiting and

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Nicu Buculei
Máirín Duffy wrote: Leo wrote: I'd suggest Murrine GTK2 Cairo Engine¹. I have been using MurrinaGilouche² which is based on this engine. Tweaking an existing theme is much less time consuming and is deliverable. Hey, I really like Murrine! What does everybody else think?:

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Leo
On Tue, 17/10/06 15:33 +0100, seawolf wrote: [...] I hate Murrine (not sure why: washed-out colors, crystal look) but like MurrinaGilouche I agree, I think it has a pale quality to it which might, if ysed for Fedora, some focus off elements like the new bright and beautiful icons ;-)

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Leo
I attached the Murrine engine that I have been using in FC5 so that it's easier for others to try out those themes based on it. *More themes:* http://cimi.netsons.org/pages/murrine/themes.php gtk-murrine-engine-0.13-3.leofc5.i386.rpm Description: gtk-murrine-engine-0.13-3.leofc5.i386.rpm

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Leo
On Tue, 17/10/06 17:37 +0100, Máirín Duffy wrote: Leo wrote: Are these comments on the engine which is called Murrine or the gtk2 theme MurrinaGilouche? The rounded corners belongs to metacity theme, I guess. Let's use a single screenshot as a reference so the feedback is for the same

Re: GTK Theme for FC7 (was Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas)

2006-10-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Let's focus on the gtk2 theme for the moment. I change the metacity theme to Bluecurve. And here is the screenshot. Please comment on this one. http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5755/murrinagilouchefz8.png It looks nice. How about changin the sliders making? I would like to get a theme more

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Steve Barnhart
On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can add these to the wiki. But honestly, and I've said this before, if anybody has a kickass theme mockup, just a flat picture in vector format (bitmap could be ok too if it's high enough resolution), I personally would be willing to try to at

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Máirín Duffy
Steve Barnhart wrote: On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't let technical limitations or implementation complexity discourage you from mocking up something cool - because there's always a way to actually build something given the design we're building towards is truly

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Steve Barnhart
On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Barnhart wrote: On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't let technical limitations or implementation complexity discourage you from mocking up something cool - because there's always a way to actually build

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can add these to the wiki. But honestly, and I've said this before, if anybody has a kickass theme mockup, just a flat picture in vector format (bitmap could be ok too if it's high enough resolution), I personally would be willing to

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Steve Barnhart wrote: On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't let technical limitations or implementation complexity discourage you from mocking up something cool - because there's always a way to actually build something given the design we're building towards

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-17 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Steve Barnhart wrote: On 10/17/06, Máirín Duffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please don't let technical limitations or implementation complexity discourage you from mocking up something cool - because there's always a way to actually build something given the design we're building towards

Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Learning the lesson on the artwork development for Fedora Core 6, I wrote some ideas about the future look of Fedora Core 7 which can be seen: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/FC7FutureArtwork One of lesson is to plan early which explains why Echo icon theme couldn't make it on

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-16 Thread Máirín Duffy
Hi Luya, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: Learning the lesson on the artwork development for Fedora Core 6, I wrote some ideas about the future look of Fedora Core 7 which can be seen: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/FC7FutureArtwork Thanks for starting this discussion! :) * Echo

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-16 Thread Thomas Canniot
Le mardi 17 octobre 2006 à 00:37 +0800, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit : Learning the lesson on the artwork development for Fedora Core 6, I wrote some ideas about the future look of Fedora Core 7 which can be seen: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LuyaTshimbalanga/FC7FutureArtwork One of lesson

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-16 Thread Leo
On Mon, 16/10/06 17:51 +0100, Máirín Duffy wrote: Hi Luya, [...] * Echo development icons is set to be the default. This I think is pending a lot of different factors so I don't know that we can assure this for FC7. One thing for sure is that depending on the community to finish the icon

Re: Thinking ahead: some FC7 ideas

2006-10-16 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
Thanks for starting this discussion! :) [...] * New wallpaper, login screen derived from Mola/Mizmo ideas that needs to match Echo theme I don't think the theming work has to be made to match Echo. I think as long as it incorporates the Fedora blue colors they'll go well together