Re: Udev issues in today's coming rawhide

2006-03-03 Thread Harald Hoyer
John Thacker wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 04:55:35PM +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote: Arjan, if you want to have IDs... use: /dev/disk/by-id/ Which of course doesn't work for CDROMs (and neither does /by-uuid of course), leaving us back where we started looking for another hack (like the one use

Re: Udev issues in today's coming rawhide

2006-03-03 Thread Harald Hoyer
Harald Hoyer wrote: Huh? $ tree /dev/disk/by-id/ /dev/disk/by-id/ |-- ata-PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-105_BKDL086471WL -> ../../hdd ok, this one is lucky to have a serial id. Nevertheless, /dev/cdrom* is only for pam_console and CLI use. Real GUI apps should provide a reasonable selection list and ma

Re: Udev issues in today's coming rawhide

2006-03-03 Thread John Thacker
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 06:44:06AM +0100, Harald Hoyer wrote: > John Thacker wrote: > >>/dev/disk/by-id/ > > > >Which of course doesn't work for CDROMs > > > Huh? > > $ tree /dev/disk/by-id/ > /dev/disk/by-id/ > |-- ata-PIONEER_DVD-RW_DVR-105_BKDL086471WL -> ../../hdd Well, it certainly doesn't

Re: Recommended laptop for FC5, was: glxgears

2006-03-03 Thread Igor Jagec
Mike A. Harris wrote: > I'm often asked which laptop chipset one should buy, or which > laptop chipset is best supported. It would be much easier for us if we could buy a laptop with Linux preinstalled, which I haven't seen yet here in Croatia. I saw some laptops with FreeDOS, but not with Linux.

Re: Recommended laptop for FC5, was: glxgears

2006-03-03 Thread Mike Chambers
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 08:42 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote: > It would be much easier for us if we could buy a laptop with Linux > preinstalled, which I haven't seen yet here in Croatia. I saw some > laptops with FreeDOS, but not with Linux. > > BTW why Red Hat does not make some contract with some lapt

rawhide report: 20060303 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Build System
Removed package up2date Removed package rhn-applet Updated Packages: NetworkManager-0.5.1-18.cvs20060302 --- * Thu Mar 02 2006 Jeremy Katz - 0.5.1-18.cvs20060302 - updated cvs snapshot. seems to make airo much less spastic * Thu Mar 02 2006 Christopher Aillo

Re: gnome trash

2006-03-03 Thread Alexander Larsson
On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 16:28 -0500, Louis E Garcia II wrote: > Seems to occur with user accounts. root is ok. Very strange. It works for me with user accounts. Can you try making a new account and try that? Something must be different with the computers or accounts where it doesn't work. =-=-=-=-=

Re: Java - Azureus memory usage

2006-03-03 Thread Andrew Haley
Pete Zaitcev writes: > On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 14:30:35 +, "Garry Harthill" > wrote: > > > 213mb memory and 50% CPU seems a bit excessive. > > > Anyone else seeing this? > > Nope, mine is at about 53MB with Fedora torrents. It eats a bit of CPU, > but I run a VIA C3. Heck, ssh eats CP

Re: username best practices and other conventions

2006-03-03 Thread David Woodhouse
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 09:55 +0100, Ralf Ertzinger wrote: > The local part of mail addresses is, and has always been, case sensitive. > Many mail systems ignore this, though (or can be configured to ignore it). That's system-dependent. You can be case sensitive or not as you see fit. However, many

Re: rawhide report: 20060302 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Richard Hughes
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 03:17 -0500, Build System wrote: > dbus-0.61-3 > --- > * Fri Feb 24 2006 John (J5) Palmieri 0.61-1 > - Upgrade to upstream version 0.61 This breaks gnome-power-manager in rawhide. It's because with dbus >= 0.61, struct are now "typed" (from dbus-glib's point of view

Gnomebaker, missing dependency - FC5T3

2006-03-03 Thread Igor Jagec
[r...@localhost ~]# yum install gnomebaker Loading "installonlyn" plugin Setting up Install Process Setting up repositories development [1/2] extras-development [2/2] Reading repository metada

kernel debuginfo size

2006-03-03 Thread Pekka Pietikainen
Err... would it be possible to get some solution for the "Help! I just want to run oprofile and systemtap" scenario? -rw-rw-r--1 ftp ftp 459625793 Mar 02 09:20 kernel-debuginfo-2.6.15-1.2008_FC5.i686.rpm is just not fun. Especially when a (uncompressed) 40MB vmlinux is all I usuall

Re: Gnomebaker, missing dependency - FC5T3

2006-03-03 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Am Freitag, den 03.03.2006, 15:31 +0100 schrieb Igor Jagec: > [r...@localhost ~]# yum install gnomebaker > Loading "installonlyn" plugin > Setting up Install Process > Setting up repositories > development [1/2] > extras-development

Re: Gnomebaker, missing dependency - FC5T3

2006-03-03 Thread Brian Pepple
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 15:31 +0100, Igor Jagec wrote: > [r...@localhost ~]# yum install gnomebaker > Loading "installonlyn" plugin > Setting up Install Process > Setting up repositories > development [1/2] > extras-development

Radical Suggestion: Add TiddlyWiki FAQ Page to Fedora Core

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Dickson
A major problem with wiki FAQs is that the user must be on-line to use them, which can be a problem if getting on-line is the problem. Perhaps something like TiddlyWiki (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) can be used to get around this problem and help with other general usage of Fedora Core too. The on

printer addition not dinamically aquired by openoffice

2006-03-03 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
With latest updates, I configured a printer while evolution and openoffice were both opened. The printer was configured as jet direct through System --> Administration --> Printing menu. After configuring and apply changes, in evolution I dinamically see the new configured printer inside the printe

Re: games user and group

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Thomas
Michael Thomas wrote: I've got a few questions regarding the use of the 'games' user and group for game packages. The resulting recommended practices will be posted to the Extras/SIGs/Games wiki page. Daemon processes Some games such as wesnoth and xpilot-ng come with server da

Re: Radical Suggestion: Add TiddlyWiki FAQ Page to Fedora Core

2006-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Paul Dickson wrote: A major problem with wiki FAQs is that the user must be on-line to use them, which can be a problem if getting on-line is the problem. Perhaps something like TiddlyWiki (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) can be used to get around this problem and help with other general usage of F

Re: rawhide report: 20060303 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Friday 03 March 2006 08:21, Build System wrote: > Removed package up2date > > Removed package rhn-applet Is not it too soon for this? ;-) http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC6Future Notice the second goal. :-) -- José Abílio

Re: rawhide report: 20060303 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Jose' Matos wrote: On Friday 03 March 2006 08:21, Build System wrote: Removed package up2date Removed package rhn-applet Is not it too soon for this? ;-) Not really. I filed the bug report (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=167770) and we had some discussion

Re: rawhide report: 20060303 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 20:10 +, Jose' Matos wrote: > > Is not it too soon for this? ;-) > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC6Future > > Notice the second goal. :-) Must have already been updated, second goal doesn't apply to this. rhn-applet and up2date are currently providing 0 value to

Re: rawhide report: 20060303 changes

2006-03-03 Thread Jose' Matos
On Friday 03 March 2006 20:18, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Notice the second goal. :-) > > Must have already been updated, second goal doesn't apply to this. > > rhn-applet and up2date are currently providing 0 value to Fedora Core > users.  Why keep them in?  Why indeed.  We removed them. Come on,

Re: kernel debuginfo size

2006-03-03 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 05:09:28PM +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > Err... would it be possible to get some solution for the "Help! > I just want to run oprofile and systemtap" scenario? > > -rw-rw-r--1 ftp ftp 459625793 Mar 02 09:20 > kernel-debuginfo-2.6.15-1.2008_FC5.i686.r

Re: kernel debuginfo size

2006-03-03 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 17:09 +0200, Pekka Pietikainen wrote: > Err... would it be possible to get some solution for the "Help! > I just want to run oprofile and systemtap" scenario? > > -rw-rw-r--1 ftp ftp 459625793 Mar 02 09:20 > kernel-debuginfo-2.6.15-1.2008_FC5.i686.rpm > > is j

Re: Vino

2006-03-03 Thread Callum Lerwick
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 01:07 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > Hello, > > I have been playing with VINO on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 but I find it > pretty unusable. First, screen updates are painfully slow: sometimes > on the real desktop I launch a gnome-terminal, but it takes up to five > seconds

Re: gnome trash

2006-03-03 Thread Louis E Garcia II
> > Seems to occur with user accounts. root is ok. > > Very strange. It works for me with user accounts. Can you try making a > new account and try that? Something must be different with the computers > or accounts where it doesn't work. > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

some gnome annoyances

2006-03-03 Thread Louis E Garcia II
When login on to gnome the home folder is always below trash. Should be in order from top down: computer, home folder, Trash. Evolution does.t remember last position of window and always takes up the whole desktop. -Thanks

Re: Vino

2006-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Callum Lerwick wrote: No, I find vino to be unusably slow and buggy as well. I use the vnc X server extension instead. Which oddly enough, is even faster than using a dedicated Xvnc server. The VNC extension seems to have broken in test3 however... Have you filed a bug report on the VNC exte

Re: kernel debuginfo size

2006-03-03 Thread Roland McGrath
In the unspecified distant future we intend to do exactly that. But there is a lot of work to make it happen.

Re: Radical Suggestion: Add TiddlyWiki FAQ Page to Fedora Core

2006-03-03 Thread Paul Dickson
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:08:27 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Paul Dickson wrote: > > >A major problem with wiki FAQs is that the user must be on-line to use > >them, which can be a problem if getting on-line is the problem. > > > >Perhaps something like TiddlyWiki (http://www.tiddlywiki.com/) can

Re: Vino

2006-03-03 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
> > Am I the only one experiencing these issues with VINO? > > No, I find vino to be unusably slow and buggy as well. I use the vnc X > server extension instead. Which oddly enough, is even faster than using > a dedicated Xvnc server. The VNC extension seems to have broken in test3 > however... Ar

Re: kernel debuginfo size

2006-03-03 Thread Nicholas Miell
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 15:15 -0800, Roland McGrath wrote: > In the unspecified distant future we intend to do exactly that. > But there is a lot of work to make it happen. > Nice! As part of ld, or something else? -- Nicholas Miell

Wild cry for package documentation

2006-03-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, I send out a note to https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-extras-list/2006-March/msg00120.html to document packages in Fedora Extras is a better way when the installation or configuration procedures are non obvious and we are seeing changes such as the Games Special Interest Group (ht