Re: kernel panic during Mar 7th rawhide install

2006-03-07 Thread Dax Kelson
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:42 -0500, Warren Togami wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=150222&hide_resolved=1 > > We are now attempting to fix some last minute problems. Your help would > be greatly appreciated in finding solutions for the problems listed in >

Re: where is ~/.xsession-errors?

2006-03-07 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > Rudi Chiarito writes: > > > On Sun, Mar 05, 2006 at 09:13:24PM +, Leon wrote: > >> There is no ~/.xsession-errors or the like in my home dir. Any ideas? > > > > Look for /tmp/xses-USERNAME.RANDOM > > > > -- > > Rudi > > Thank you. > > By the way, any clue why such a change? Files th

PANIC on RPMDB... can't even get version numbers for installed packages...

2006-03-07 Thread Casimiro de Almeida Barreto
After update done 00:23 08/Mar/2006 the following happened (so I can't even get version for packages...): [r...@terra ~]# yum update rpmdb: PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery error: db4 error(-30977) from dbenv->open: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery error: ca

Re: Help Needed: FC5 Blocker List and Rawhide Install Testing

2006-03-07 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Warren Togami wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=150222&hide_resolved=1 We are now attempting to fix some last minute problems. Your help would be greatly appreciated in finding solutions for the problems listed in the above FC5 Blocker list. Your testin

Re: ordinary kernels install when choosing xen

2006-03-07 Thread Andrew Haley
Dax Kelson writes: > On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:34 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > > If you choose xen in installation, only kernel-xen-hypervisor is > > installed, not the ordinary uni/smp kernels on i686. > > Is this intentional? How could one install both xen and ordinary > > kernels, without

Re: ordinary kernels install when choosing xen

2006-03-07 Thread Dax Kelson
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 12:34 +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > If you choose xen in installation, only kernel-xen-hypervisor is > installed, not the ordinary uni/smp kernels on i686. > Is this intentional? How could one install both xen and ordinary > kernels, without doing it manually after install?

Re: Evince claims pdf password protected

2006-03-07 Thread Jack Tanner
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hans Kristian Rosbach wrote: Opening http://www.highpoint-tech.com/manuals/BIOS%20Update%20User%20Manual.pdf in Document Viewer (Evince) fails and it clams it is password protected. If I open it using Xpdf it works just fine. File can be found at http://www.highpoint-tech

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Dnia 07-03-2006, wto o godzinie 10:42 -0600, Chris Adams napisał(a): > Once upon a time, Tomasz Koczko said: > > # ( LANG= ; grep /var/mail /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/*; > > grep /var/spool/mail /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/* ) | sort | > > uniq -d > > Binary file /usr/bin/balsa-a

re: Help Needed: FC5 Blocker List and Rawhide Install Testing

2006-03-07 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
I could help for testing installations these latest days. I have a Dell 6650 with 4x3GHz cpus (8 with HT enabled) and 4GB of ram. I can use it for 2-3 weeks. I have configured the dell with pxe boot, picking up kickstart file via http from one server and installing via nfs from another server (thi

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 3/7/06, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > So in this kind buggy programs we have some additional subclass :> That is a matter of opinion, and I happen to disagree. But if you think these applications are buggy.. please by all means contact the upstream developers and provide patches to remove all referen

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 3/7/06, Chris Adams wrote: > Again, how many of those try $MAIL first? That should always be set, so > falling back to /var/mail, /var/spool/mail, or /dev/null should not be > flagged as a bug. balsa is even smarter than that... first it checkes $MAIL and then it iterates across a set of gues

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Tomasz Koczko said: > # ( LANG= ; grep /var/mail /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/*; > grep /var/spool/mail /bin/* /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/* ) | sort | > uniq -d > Binary file /usr/bin/balsa-ab matches > Binary file /usr/bin/balsa matches > Binary file /usr/bin/epic-EPIC4

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Dnia 07-03-2006, wto o godzinie 16:25 +, Nigel Metheringham napisał(a): [..] > There is no reference to not directly calling /usr/sbin/sendmail (or > even calling it at all) OK you are right. Case /usr/sbin/sendmail can be removed from list incompatibilities. kloczek

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 17:11 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > Yes it IS wrong because it is location of installed sendmail binaries. > FHS says something like "do not use directly /usr/sbin/sendmail binary > but use sendmail command line compliant binary (or symlink to this > binary) which must be ins

Re: FC more FHS clashes

2006-03-07 Thread Miloslav Trmac
Tomasz Kłoczko napsal(a): > Dnia 07-03-2006, wto o godzinie 09:37 -0600, Chris Adams napisał(a): >> I asked the question because the original poster said that programs >> calling /usr/sbin/sendmail were wrong. I didn't think that was the >> intent of the FHS, so I asked the OP to support the claim

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Dnia 07-03-2006, wto o godzinie 10:57 -0500, Jeff Spaleta napisał(a): > On 3/6/06, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > - many programs still uses /var/spool/mail, > > > > # LANG= grep /var/spool/mail /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/* /bin/* > > Did you run the equilalent grep for /var/mail ? I think you sho

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
> >(BTW, the filesystem is being mounted with -o user_xattr). > > > thats the reason, by default filesystems are not mounted with user_xattr > (why?) Yes... Any good reason for not doing so?

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 17:10 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: > > Beagle does not use extended attributes in FC5 (at least not by > > default), it uses sqlite. So there should be no problem. > > Then, why do my files show attributes created by beagle? > > # getfattr Desktop > user.Beagle.AttrTim

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread dragoran
Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: Beagle does not use extended attributes in FC5 (at least not by default), it uses sqlite. So there should be no problem. Then, why do my files show attributes created by beagle? # getfattr Desktop user.Beagle.AttrTime user.Beagle.Fingerprint user.Beagle.MTime

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Neal Becker
Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 10:59 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >> How can we backup beagle data, including user_xattr? >> >> What happens if we don't restore user_xattr correctly? Will beagle >> re-create it? >> > > Beagle does not use extended attributes in FC5 (at least not b

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
> Beagle does not use extended attributes in FC5 (at least not by > default), it uses sqlite. So there should be no problem. Then, why do my files show attributes created by beagle? # getfattr Desktop user.Beagle.AttrTime user.Beagle.Fingerprint user.Beagle.MTime user.Beagle.Uid (BTW, the filesy

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Dnia 07-03-2006, wto o godzinie 09:37 -0600, Chris Adams napisał(a): > Once upon a time, Jeff Spaleta said: > > On 3/6/06, Chris Adams wrote: > > > Does FHS say /usr/lib/sendmail should just exist or that it should be > > > used _instead of_ /usr/sbin/sendmail? > > Friendly advice.. it helps to r

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 3/6/06, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > - many programs still uses /var/spool/mail, > > # LANG= grep /var/spool/mail /usr/bin/* /usr/sbin/* /sbin/* /bin/* Did you run the equilalent grep for /var/mail ? I think you should, and then do a diff against both lists to get a more accurate picture of poten

Re: beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 10:59 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > How can we backup beagle data, including user_xattr? > > What happens if we don't restore user_xattr correctly? Will beagle re-create > it? > Beagle does not use extended attributes in FC5 (at least not by default), it uses sqlite. So the

beagle backup (user_xattr)

2006-03-07 Thread Neal Becker
How can we backup beagle data, including user_xattr? What happens if we don't restore user_xattr correctly? Will beagle re-create it?

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On 3/6/06, Chris Adams wrote: > Does FHS say /usr/lib/sendmail should just exist or that it should be > used _instead of_ /usr/sbin/sendmail? Friendly advice.. it helps to read up on reference material before asking questions... or else you run the risk of having your questions summarily disregard

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jeff Spaleta said: > On 3/6/06, Chris Adams wrote: > > Does FHS say /usr/lib/sendmail should just exist or that it should be > > used _instead of_ /usr/sbin/sendmail? > Friendly advice.. it helps to read up on reference material before > asking questions... or else you run the r

Re: FC more FHS clashes (was: BIND and FHS)

2006-03-07 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
Dnia 06-03-2006, pon o godzinie 18:08 -0600, Chris Adams napisał(a): [..] > I haven't read FHS, So my answer is very short: be so kind/smart and please finish lecture FHS specyfication before starting disscuss about this subjects. OK ? I have not time for learning you and pointing where you are t

Re: Evince claims pdf password protected

2006-03-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hans Kristian Rosbach wrote: Opening http://www.highpoint-tech.com/manuals/BIOS%20Update%20User%20Manual.pdf in Document Viewer (Evince) fails and it clams it is password protected. If I open it using Xpdf it works just fine. File can be found at http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/bios_rr1820a.h

Evince claims pdf password protected

2006-03-07 Thread Hans Kristian Rosbach
Opening http://www.highpoint-tech.com/manuals/BIOS%20Update%20User%20Manual.pdf in Document Viewer (Evince) fails and it clams it is password protected. If I open it using Xpdf it works just fine. File can be found at http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/bios_rr1820a.htm link is known as "BIOS User M

ordinary kernels install when choosing xen

2006-03-07 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
If you choose xen in installation, only kernel-xen-hypervisor is installed, not the ordinary uni/smp kernels on i686. Is this intentional? How could one install both xen and ordinary kernels, without doing it manually after install?

nvidiafb

2006-03-07 Thread Rudolf Kastl
Hello! I am well aware that the nvidiafb/rivafb driver doesent work well together with the nvidia binary driver... that said... id be happy if nvidiafb would be built aswell. as far as i know and read it should be in the mainline kernel but it seems that the module isnt built in latest fedora deve

rawhide report: 20060307 changes

2006-03-07 Thread Build System
Updated Packages: GConf2-2.13.5-5 --- * Mon Mar 06 2006 Ray Strode 2.13.5-5 - Only sync the database once when installing multiple schema files. Patch by Josselin Mouette . (upstream bug 53) NetworkManager-0.6.0-2 -- * Mon Mar 06 2006 Dan Williams 0

Re: username best practices and other conventions

2006-03-07 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2006/3/6, Karel Zak : > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 04:21:12PM +, Joe Desbonnet wrote: > > I think it's time to move beyond those traditional limits. At some > > point we got over the 14 char file name limits, and the world is a > > better place for it. > > > > I much prefer to spend a few more cha