Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry, but our users trust us [in ojuba.org spin] to provide packages that respect our family values and moralities --

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Till Maas
On Thu May 28 2009, Jon Stanley wrote: Well, I have nothing on the agenda for tomorrow's meeting at this point. Thus, the entire meeting taking place at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting will be an open floor, unless someone comes up with something to discuss between now and then :). There is a

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
comps group or force some %group in spec files or modify pkgdb to have tags or any thing, I just need to know all such packages them regarding the output of yum search, yes I expected that from the post of Mathieu Bridon (bochecha), and I was shocked it was there!! anyway, I really need a list

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers although in ojuba we use ourown comps files, but this is a catastrophe because they are merged! I guess there is an option for hidden groups On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Mathieu Bridon

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:05:01AM +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry, but our users trust us [in ojuba.org spin] to

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values predefined. it should not make my job finding suck packages difficult we have more than 10,000 packages in the

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 03:00 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values predefined. it should not make my job finding suck packages

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry, but our users trust us [in ojuba.org spin] to provide packages that respect our family values

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dr. Diesel
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:50 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) frankl...@gmail.com wrote: Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora .repo files sorry,

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Viernes 29 Mayo 2009 11:38:21 Rahul Sundaram escribió: On 05/29/2009 03:00 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values

Re: welcome to fedora

2009-05-29 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/5/29 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com: http://images.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_linux_mint_7_gloria/15.jpg I saw this and thought that it would also be a nice idea to have in fedora, like a welcome screen Wellcome to Fedora or something similar... What are your

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:30:45PM +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world I don't want fedora to define such things, we have our own values predefined. it should not make my job finding

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 02:23:23PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:33 +0200, Till Maas wrote: There is a proposed Feature that connot be completed because kernel module packages are prohibited in Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/VirtualBox Maybe the

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Nicu Buculei
On 05/29/2009 02:07 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote: There is no video, only a few harmless static drawings in PNG format. from : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnaughty Gnaughty is an utility to automatically download adult sex content, i.e.

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Jussi Lehtola jussileht...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:33 +0200, Till Maas wrote: There is a proposed Feature that connot be completed because kernel module packages are prohibited in Fedora:

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kushal Das wrote: Yes that is true , but it does not provide any support to view that content, we have many other packages in Fedora which allows to download content and they

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: Movies in proprietary formats can be downloaded also with Firefox, Transmission, wget, etc. From the description of gnaughty I understand it can also download images, which are in free formats, so the content is in

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Kushal Das wrote: As you said, no opensource simulator, but we have opensource viewer :) Fedora doesn't ship a video viewer which supports proprietary formats out of the box. For me this package goes to rpmfusion. Chitlesh -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kushal Das wrote: Yes that is true , but it does not provide any support to view that content, we have many other packages in Fedora which allows to download content and they download whatever format the site is providing, how the

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 01:40:36PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: Movies in proprietary formats can be downloaded also with Firefox, Transmission, wget, etc. From the description of gnaughty I understand it can also

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Viernes 29 Mayo 2009 13:40:36 Chitlesh GOORAH escribió: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fed...@nicubunu.ro wrote: Movies in proprietary formats can be downloaded also with Firefox, Transmission, wget, etc. From the description of gnaughty I understand it can also

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 05:21 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: ! One interesting thing - does it download free content? Are there some porn sites under CC licence? Free culture, by community for community... There is and no, I am not linking to them, here. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Chitlesh GOORAH chitlesh.goo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Internet is for porn... Sorry I don't know this software but as someone already pointed - it's opensource, it can be used to download other content. It's

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread sankarshan
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any guidelines covering this but considering the Debian action

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Chitlesh GOORAH
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM, sankarshan wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: My packaging survey turned up a interesting suggestion https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-May/msg01809.html We don't currently have any

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: IMHO it is not Fedora's job to define family values moralities. Such morals/values will vary all around the world, such that no single list Fedora makes would be satisfactory. If a derived spin wants to define a set of morals values then the burden should be on

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread inode0
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Florian Festi ffe...@redhat.com wrote: Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: Following your logic, OVM should enter fedora collection as well. !! It really doesn't matter how often you repeat a wrong sentence. There are different rules that do apply to code and content in

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:20 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:05:01AM +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing all of them so that we can add exclude for all of them in fedora

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Kushal Das
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: True. Someone should ask the question: does it make sense to have different rules if they prevent the inclusion of useful content and allow the inclusion of useless code? Which is useless to me can be very useful to someone else.

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Simo Sorce sso...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:20 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:05:01AM +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: in case you have accepted to put such packages in the repo please maintain a wiki page listing

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Dennis J., Thu, 28 May 2009 21:02:05 +0200: Murder is a crime, pornography isn't There are many states (including many states of USA) where it is. Matěj -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread inode0
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: True. Someone should ask the question: does it make sense to have different rules if they prevent the inclusion of useful content and allow the inclusion of

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Till Maas, Fri, 29 May 2009 15:01:29 +0200: It seems more to me, that the Feature owner does not care, because the package is very incomplete and I got no response from my comment in December 2008 that Virtualbox won't make it into Fedora. Btw. how does the Feature owner delete the page? It

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:08:21PM +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: The problem, how do we determine what is offensive to any particular group? Some people consider 3D shooter games offensive. This is slippery slope. Unless there is a legal issue, I believe Fedora is going to end up with that

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 01:24:14PM +0200, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: No, it doesn't (not till it is approved) not depend on the user's choice. My package OVM was blocked by FESCo because there was no opensource simulator. So if the downloaded videos aren't under an opensource compatible format,

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Till Maas
On Fri May 29 2009, Matej Cepl wrote: Till Maas, Fri, 29 May 2009 15:01:29 +0200: It seems more to me, that the Feature owner does not care, because the package is very incomplete and I got no response from my comment in December 2008 that Virtualbox won't make it into Fedora. Btw. how does

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matej Cepl wrote: Moreover, it has been included in The Repository Which Shall Not Be Named. You mean we should not name RPM Fusion? Or link to http://rpmfusion.org/ ? Well, maybe I'll make an effort not to name RPM Fusion. But then again, I think I actually won't make an effort not to name RPM

rawhide report: 20090529 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri May 29 06:15:04 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: anaconda-11.5.0.57-1.fc11 - * Thu May 28 2009 Chris Lumens clum...@redhat.com - 11.5.0.57-1 - Create and use unique ids for Device instances. (#500808) (dlehman) - Adjust remaining PartitionDevices' names

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: Or perhaps a future FESCo will revist kmods. FWIW, I'd certainly vote for a proposal to allow kmods if I get into FESCo and may even bring such a proposal in front of the new FESCo (though IMHO it should not be the old regime with explicit FESCo approval for each, that didn't

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: Or perhaps a future FESCo will revist kmods. FWIW, I'd certainly vote for a proposal to allow kmods if I get into FESCo and may even bring such a proposal in front of the new FESCo (though IMHO it should not be the old regime with

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Florian Festi
inode0 wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: True. Someone should ask the question: does it make sense to have different rules if they prevent the inclusion of useful content and allow the

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Mat Booth
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Hi I did a quick survey from Fedora on what software Fedora users are using that is not available in the repo. Here are the results. If you find anything interesting, feel free to pick it up.

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Matej Cepl
Kevin Kofler, Fri, 29 May 2009 15:30:29 +0200: You mean we should not name RPM Fusion? You can. I probably can as well too (I haven't checked lately), but it is just such fun not to name it. :) Matěj -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Swapping reviews

2009-05-29 Thread David Nalley
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Patrick MONNERAT p...@datasphere.ch wrote: Hello list,        Package WebCalendar (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471231) is awaiting review for 5 month already. I will be glad to review another package in counterpart of this one's review.

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Mathieu Bridon (bochecha)
If you're going to maintain a spin for a like-minded community (like ojuba.org is) have you took a look to the proposal ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/InappropriateContents where does it mention anything about the alike-minded community of fanatic government censorship

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 16:28 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: On 05/29/2009 03:27 PM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: Where do you anything about family values and moralities in Fedora's mission statement? I see statements about software being free to use, that's why I said us [in ojuba.org] as I'm member

Re: Swapping reviews

2009-05-29 Thread Patrick MONNERAT
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:40 -0400, David Nalley wrote: Package WebCalendar (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471231) is awaiting review for 5 month already. I'll grab it Many thanks, David. I do not find any pending new review request from you just now, but if you have

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 03:33:37PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Josh Boyer wrote: Or perhaps a future FESCo will revist kmods. FWIW, I'd certainly vote for a proposal to allow kmods if I get into FESCo and may even bring such a proposal in

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/29/2009 02:10 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers although in ojuba we use ourown comps files, but this is a catastrophe because they are merged! I guess

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:02:23AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/29/2009 02:10 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers although in ojuba we use ourown comps

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dr. Diesel
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) boche...@fedoraproject.org wrote: it's the job for those who care to check this list and take their own subset from it according to their own definition. Couldn't it be the job of those who care to maintain this list in the first

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Miller
We had a really long debate about this package in #fedora-devel yesterday and it basically boils down to 1) Need fedora-legal to check the legality of the app not verifying user's age and legality of the URL of the site being in the C source. 2) If fedora-legal say it is legal, then its up to the

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 05/29/2009 04:24 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Kushal Das wrote: Yes that is true , but it does not provide any support to view that content, we have many other packages in Fedora which allows to download content and they download whatever format the site is

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread drago01
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009, Adam Miller wrote: We had a really long debate about this package in #fedora-devel yesterday and it basically boils down to 1) Need fedora-legal to check the legality of the app not verifying

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: - If a driver is headed upstream, and is needed... just add it to the kernel package proper Not just driver. We said that the kernel team could choose to include any out of tree stuff they deem acceptable, but they would include it in

add security related packages categorization to comps?

2009-05-29 Thread Till Maas
Hiyas, the Security spin[0] categorizes several security related packages in categories like Wireless or Forensics. It would be useful to have this information also in comps, so one can easier search for e.g. Forensics software available in Fedora. Is it ok if I just add such groups to comps

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 29 May 2009 18:03:59 +0300 Muayyad AlSadi wrote: as I said I don't want you to tag them I want you to limit the list for me from more than 10,000 package which increases at arbitrary time to tens of packages on a wiki that I can //watch// (a feature of the wiki) Deciding whether to

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:02 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: - firefox - yum These are a bit rediculous and you know it. Neither of these come pre-configured to get to the content. You have to actively seek it out. gnaughty doesn't require that, it's

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Florian Festi
inode0 wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Florian Festi ffe...@redhat.com wrote: inode0 wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM, inode0 ino...@gmail.com wrote: True. Someone should ask the question: does it make sense

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
- yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Couldn't it be the job of those who care to maintain this list in the first place ? no problem, just give me a procedural way other than watching all packages in pkgdb [so that I catch them before they are submitted to the

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 13:51 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Sorry I don't know this software but as someone already pointed - it's opensource, it can be used to download other content. Actually it can't. It's hard coded to download the porn from one specific website that acts as a porn

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 12:50 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: It is not Fedora's place to police *usage* of apps, only whether the app or package has a compliant license and follows the defined packaging legal rules. If the tool were directly

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Very long thread deleted. Could we all cool it a bit and think for a bit about the following questions 1) Does this discussion need to occur right before a release where there are bigger problems to test/find. 2) Are we discussing anything. People are stating their points of view but its all a

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: stop censorship conspiracy theory. I don't care what does the the law in US, UK, AU say I care about the little daughter of some brother in this universe. just so we're clear - you might want to be careful about the use of the word demand. At

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dr. Diesel
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Muayyad AlSadi als...@gmail.com wrote: - yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Demand, again, has he learned anything? This is ridiculous, somebody ban this guy. -- projecthuh.com All of my bits are free, are yours?

Re: add security related packages categorization to comps?

2009-05-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:29 +0200, Till Maas wrote: Hiyas, the Security spin[0] categorizes several security related packages in categories like Wireless or Forensics. It would be useful to have this information also in comps, so one can easier search for e.g. Forensics software

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Muayyad AlSadi [29/05/2009 18:08] : as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives That's simple. Treat all packages in the repo as having inappropriate content. Emmanuel -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread inode0
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Florian Festi ffe...@redhat.com wrote: inode0 wrote: To lead the advancement of free and open source software and content as a collaborative community. That is the mission statement of what project? The Fedora Project with is close but not exactly the same

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 12:02 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: and I think the distinction being made is that the bookmarks and menu items are content-only, not software. So an application that reads the included above mentioned bookmarks to let you click to go to those sites is OK? Bookmarks alone,

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/29/2009 08:40 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: we're on a silly slope and putting provides tags into certain pkgs is just plain dumb - wanna put a wiki page up - that's fine. polluting provides tags is not a good plan. Here's a proposal then:

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dr. Diesel wrote: Demand, again, has he learned anything? This is ridiculous, somebody ban this guy. That's just the language barrier. E.g. in French, demander is more like request than demand. English is clearly not his first language, possibly not even his second language, I don't think he

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dennis J.
On 05/29/2009 04:34 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dennis J. (denni...@conversis.de) said: I wrote a proposal https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/InappropriateContents I don't think you can just flag Packages as inappropriate because everyone has his own definition for that term. If

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:09 -0500, Dr. Diesel wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Muayyad AlSadi als...@gmail.com wrote: - yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Demand, again, has he learned anything? This is

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
or some sort of power. hmmm, I guess it's the power of friendship :-) seriously, I'm sorry, I did not meant it like that, no problem, I request that whenever someone pack a package that he does not want his 8 years old daughter to add it to the list as I don't care for false positives like

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy
Muayyad AlSadi wrote: - yum as I said I demand for a list even if it's with false positives Couldn't it be the job of those who care to maintain this list in the first place ? no problem, just give me a procedural way other than watching all packages in pkgdb [so that I catch

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 29 May 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 12:02 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: and I think the distinction being made is that the bookmarks and menu items are content-only, not software. So an application that reads the included above mentioned bookmarks to let you click

Devel-Spins F11\Rawhide?

2009-05-29 Thread Frank Murphy (Frankly3d)
What is the most recent Devel-Spin? Will there be one for GA? Frank -- msn: frankly3d skype: frankly3d Mailing-List Reply to: Mailing-List Still Learning, Unicode where possible -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
don't think of that list/tags as censor ship,it's just an advice from a friend. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dennis J.
On 05/29/2009 05:02 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Fri, 29 May 2009, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/29/2009 02:10 AM, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: The problem with a comps group is that it will lead to having a group in graphical installers although in ojuba we use ourown comps files, but this is a

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:40 +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: no I mean inspecting a list of tens of packages would be much simpler than inspecting all the tens of thousands of packages You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dennis J. (denni...@conversis.de) said: At which point, you need some sort of review board, where then every package gets something like: - TuxPaint is rated E for Everyone - quake3 is rated T for violent content - tcl is rated M for inappropriate language I'm going to go out on a limb

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11 * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855,

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life easier, someone else has to inspect the tens of thousands of packages. and the someone else you refer to is fedora censorship board! no no like that, I asked for a unified place to put

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 09:27 PM, Mathieu Bridon (bochecha) wrote: By refusing kmods, we have more motivation to actually try and include upstream what we really need to use. If we can simply install the kmod, who cares if it's upstreamed ? We generally do care about whether something is upstream or

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855, and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter. The last change on 167 says that KMS is disabled on these chipsets.

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 07:34 PM, Mat Booth wrote: I don't think JEP should be on that list. I've used it in few commercial products and its a thousand dollars a pop for a source code licence: http://www.singularsys.com/order/ JEP in the wiki is linked to http://sourceforge.net/projects/jep/. Are

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 19:49 +0300, Muayyad AlSadi wrote: You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life easier, someone else has to inspect the tens of thousands of packages. and the someone else you refer to is fedora censorship

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 05/29/2009 09:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There is a solution to this particular point, which it seems many who use kmods don't seem to know about: akmods. Install the akmod for your kmod, and if the pre-built kmod hasn't yet been updated when a new kernel is released, the akmod handles

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:00 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: Then do you find it OK to package up a bunch of packages that provide nothing but gnome or KDE menu entries that launch porn internet sites? I am heartily interested in your ideas and wish to read your pamphlet! -- Adam Williamson Fedora

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Dennis J.
On 05/29/2009 06:48 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Dennis J. (denni...@conversis.de) said: At which point, you need some sort of review board, where then every package gets something like: - TuxPaint is rated E for Everyone - quake3 is rated T for violent content - tcl is rated M for inappropriate

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 22:17 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 05/29/2009 09:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: kernel-2.6.29.4-167.fc11 * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 -

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Mat Booth
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 05/29/2009 07:34 PM, Mat Booth wrote: I don't think JEP should be on that list. I've used it in few commercial products and its a thousand dollars a pop for a source code licence:

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 10:47 PM, Mat Booth wrote: As of 2008-09-29 23:14, this project may now be found at: http://www.singularsys.com/jep; Wouldn't older versions still exist under the open source license? Are they still useful? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: rawhide report: 20090528 changes

2009-05-29 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/29/2009 10:23 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: * Wed May 27 2009 Kyle McMartin k...@redhat.com 2.6.29.4-164 - drm-intel-disable-kms-i8xx.patch: disable KMS by default on 845, 855, and 865. It can be forced on with i915.modeset=1 boot parameter. The last change on 167

Re: Packaging Survey - May 2009

2009-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mat Booth wrote: Yes, I think we are. At the very top of the page you link to it says: As of 2008-09-29 23:14, this project may now be found at: http://www.singularsys.com/jep; So that's one of those evil packages which has switched to become non-Free. People caring about it need to organize

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 10:00 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On 05/29/2009 09:47 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: There is a solution to this particular point, which it seems many who use kmods don't seem to know about: akmods. Install the akmod for your kmod, and if the pre-built kmod hasn't yet

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
You're just transferring the work. In order to *generate* the list of tens of packages to make _your_ life easier, someone else has to inspect the tens of thousands of packages. I forgot to mention that I'm not the only one who cares think of OLPC having a pre-installed something similar to

Re: Swapping reviews

2009-05-29 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Patrick MONNERAT wrote: Hello list, Package WebCalendar (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471231) is awaiting review for 5 month already. I will be glad to review another package in counterpart of this one's review. Thanks in advance. Patrick I have a webcalendar

Re: gnaughty is a hot babe

2009-05-29 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:30 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 11:15 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3d) wrote: But I think morality it is delving away from fedora, unless it is global socially objectionable, maybe Child-Porn. I see this is this week's merry train-wreck of

Re: Plans for tomorrow's (20090529) FESCo meeting

2009-05-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:32:25 -0700, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: NVIDIA and ATI are the major use case for MDV (and, frankly, for RPM Fusion), so I came around to the view that it isn't really a good idea to have kmods or DKMS in Fedora; the major use case for them doesn't

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