Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 11:53 PM, Eric Springer wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David wrote: >> I am serious here. Really. The names are...? > > It's besides the point, but there are quite a few games (World of > Warcraft, Half-life 2 etc.) that run perfectly under wine. I do think > Kevin does ne

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Eric Springer
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David wrote: > > I am serious here. Really. The names are...? It's besides the point, but there are quite a few games (World of Warcraft, Half-life 2 etc.) that run perfectly under wine. I do think Kevin does need to act a little more maturely though (especially n

Re: Anybody know how to contact Axel Thimm (again)?

2009-07-11 Thread Ricky Zhou
On 2009-07-08 01:26:28 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > Hi, we're following the policy for nonresponsive package maintainers > again for bug 484855. There hasn't been any update on this breakage in > the last 3 weeks. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > https:/

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 9:35 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David wrote: > >> On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Frank Murphy wrote: Doesn't seem to work for wine :) >>> >>> That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables >>> are. >>> >>>

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Jesse Keating
On Jul 11, 2009, at 17:03, David wrote: On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: Doesn't seem to work for wine :) That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are. Kevin Kofler "Winblow$"? You really should learn some control he

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 9:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 21:17:56 -0400, > David wrote: >> On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400, >>> David wrote: The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 21:17:56 -0400, David wrote: > On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400, > > David wrote: > >> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show > >> respect where respect is warranted. > > > > I'm s

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 8:27 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400, > David wrote: >> The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show >> respect where respect is warranted. > > I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well. ;-) I think

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 20:03:51 -0400, David wrote: > > The 'real guys'. The developers, code writers, people-in-the-know, show > respect where respect is warranted. I'm sure Al Capone got a lot of respect in his day as well. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com ht

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread David
On 7/11/2009 6:17 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: >> Doesn't seem to work for wine :) > > That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are. > > Kevin Kofler "Winblow$"? You really should learn some control here. The 'real guys'. The developers, c

Re: RFC: cronKit

2009-07-11 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 06.07.2009, 19:03 +0200 schrieb Christoph Höger: > Hi, > > since I sync my mail with the experimental gnome ui of offlineimap, I > encounter a small problem: > How do I tell cron to only invoke the job when I am logged in under > gnome only? How about http://www.gnomefiles.org/app

rpm %defattr question

2009-07-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola
Hi, is the default attribute definition %defattr(-,root,root) the same as %defattr(-,root,root,-)? -- Jussi Lehtola Fedora Project Contributor jussileht...@fedoraproject.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-li

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote: > Doesn't seem to work for wine :) That's because WINE is only 32-bit, because most Winblow$ executables are. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Jon Stanley
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Probably and afaik the original author also planned to do so. Unluckily the > code that handled the bugzilla tickets is afaik not publicly available, > therefore this needs to be rewritten. What language is it written in? Should be easy to impl

Re: Fail2ban + Shorewall Question

2009-07-11 Thread BJ Dierkes
On Jul 11, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/11/2009 10:01 PM, BJ Dierkes wrote: No kidding. I've submitted two patches... one just removing the dep, and two adding a subpackage as an alternative route. Hopefully this will help move it along. Axel Thimm has only been sporadica

Re: Fail2ban + Shorewall Question

2009-07-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/11/2009 10:01 PM, BJ Dierkes wrote: > No kidding. I've submitted two patches... one just removing the dep, > and two adding a subpackage as an alternative route. Hopefully this > will help move it along. Axel Thimm has only been sporadically active for a long time now. There are a number

Re: prelink: is it worth it?

2009-07-11 Thread Joe Nall
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:45 AM, devzero2000 wrote: 2 - not checked if this problem is actual or not: prelink erases file-based capabilities https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456105 Which remains 'NEW' a year after it was opened. It was recently reconfirmed by Tomas Mraz in F11.

Re: prelink: is it worth it?

2009-07-11 Thread John Reiser
> [benefit of prelink:] > - almost all relocations a program has to perform are avoided. These > can be very expensive when many dependencies and/or large symbol > tables are involved. The latter is somewhat mitigated by the new > symbol table hashing we implemented some time back but still

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:49 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: >> On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote: >> >>> >>> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify >>> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32-

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread drago01
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > >> >> The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify >> the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and >> 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Till Maas
On Sat July 11 2009, Rakesh Pandit wrote: > Thanks for nice work. I too mailed other some time back .. but did not > recieved any mail back. May you share the program ;) I'll share the program once I setup some repo for it, which will probably happen the next time I spend a reasonable amount of

Re: Fail2ban + Shorewall Question

2009-07-11 Thread BJ Dierkes
On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/11/2009 03:32 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244275 Wow. A simple spec file change and a rebuild has been waiting for 2 years now? No kidding. I've submitted two patches... one just remo

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Till Maas
On Sat July 11 2009, Eric Sandeen wrote: > I wonder, can FEver become part of the Fedora infrastructure, so it's > not quite so bus-sensitive? Probably and afaik the original author also planned to do so. Unluckily the code that handled the bugzilla tickets is afaik not publicly available, ther

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/07/09 10:41, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify > the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and > 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier, > e.g. instead of > # yum install foo

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Eric Sandeen
Till Maas wrote: > Aloas, > > some of you added your packages to: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_FEver_to_track_upstream_changes > > Unfortunately seems the original author of fever not to be around anymore, > e.g. his fedorapeople account is removed/backed-up. Therefore I started to >

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Till Maas
On Sat July 11 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Till Maas wrote: > > mingw32-nsis2.44 < 207b0 > > Hmmm, the regex is somehow picking up something broken. The current version > is actually 2.45. I should probably make it read > http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download instead. In 200

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Till Maas wrote: > mingw32-nsis2.44 < 207b0 Hmmm, the regex is somehow picking up something broken. The current version is actually 2.45. I should probably make it read http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Download instead. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing lis

Re: Fail2ban + Shorewall Question

2009-07-11 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 07/11/2009 03:32 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=244275 Wow. A simple spec file change and a rebuild has been waiting for 2 years now? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: 3Dsee.net java applet crashes firefox

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mat Booth wrote: > Though after a little thought, it could be the proprietary nvidia > driver I'm using. It most definitely is. Yet another nvidia driver bug... Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-de

Re: Conditionally applying a patch based on a program's EVR

2009-07-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Alan Dunn wrote: > but is there an easy way to do this for a version number in say, EVR > form? That is, something like > > %if %{program_version} > 1.2.3 > ... > %endif Just figure out the Fedora releases with that version and conditionalize based on the Fedora release. If the required version

Re: Open Seat on the Fedora Packaging Committee

2009-07-11 Thread Richard June
Doh! teach me for not watching my mail client more carefully. original message- From: "Frank Murphy" frankl...@gmail.com To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:19:24 +0100 - > On 11/07/09 05:4

Re: Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Denis Leroy
On 07/11/2009 02:37 PM, Brian Pepple wrote: I've been working on updating libchamplain to 0.3.3 in Rawhide, but until it gets ported to the clutter-0.9 api (or we do a clutter-0.8 compat) it's a no go for now. I've been told to expect clutter 1.0 real soon (tm) :-) -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-07-10

2009-07-11 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 07/10/2009 09:04 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: 18:08:49 #topic Feature - extended lifecycle (...snip...) 18:15:31 jds2001, we have majority vote to move to the Board I'm interested to know what the follow-up on this would be; Is it added to the board's agenda? Also, I would appreciate if t

Re: Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Pepple
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 18:25 +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: > > So no one is affected by this change. On the other hand, 0.2.x is old > and 0.3.x is where the fun is. So atleast some developers would > benefit from it and libchamplain-0.3 would also get some testing > leading to a better 0.4.x. Since

Re: Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Debarshi Ray
> I've been working on updating libchamplain to 0.3.3 in Rawhide, but > until it gets ported to the clutter-0.9 api (or we do a clutter-0.8 > compat) it's a no go for now. That is also what I was waiting for. > Regarding pushing this to F11, I really > don't think we should, since the only real c

Re: Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:37:49 -0400, Brian wrote: > I've been working on updating libchamplain to 0.3.3 in Rawhide, but > until it gets ported to the clutter-0.9 api (or we do a clutter-0.8 > compat) it's a no go for now. Regarding pushing this to F11, I really > don't think we should, since the o

Re: Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Brian Pepple
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 16:36 +0530, Debarshi Ray wrote: > I am going to update libchamplain from 0.2.9 to 0.3.3 in Fedora 11. > This involves a change in the soname, but since no other package > depends on it I hope it would not be a problem. On the plus side, the > GtkChamplainEmbed widget which wa

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Rakesh Pandit
2009/7/11 Till Maas wrote: > Aloas, > > some of you added your packages to: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_FEver_to_track_upstream_changes > > Unfortunately seems the original author of fever not to be around anymore, > e.g. his fedorapeople account is removed/backed-up. Therefore I started

Champlain

2009-07-11 Thread Debarshi Ray
I am going to update libchamplain from 0.2.9 to 0.3.3 in Fedora 11. This involves a change in the soname, but since no other package depends on it I hope it would not be a problem. On the plus side, the GtkChamplainEmbed widget which was earlier separately released has been merged into the libchamp

Re: Packages tracked by FEver that need to be updated

2009-07-11 Thread Debarshi Ray
Thank you very much for doing this. Happy hacking, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Joshua C.
2009/7/11 Jussi Lehtola : > > The x86_64 repo contains some multilib packages. If you don't specify > the wanted architecture when installing, yum might install both 32- and > 64-bit versions if available. Try adding the .x86_64 arch specifier, > e.g. instead of > # yum install foo > perform > # yu

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Sat, 2009-07-11 at 08:38 +0100, Joshua C. wrote: > 2009/7/10 Tom "spot" Callaway : > > On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote: > >> I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following > >> x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when > >> compiling those packages

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 12:40:44PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: No, not if they bundle the generated auto* files with their tarballs, as they are supposed to do. They're not "supposed to do" that. Wrong. Don't make stuff up. Read the manuals, then come back. -

Re: How to properly name a cross-toolchain package?

2009-07-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
Peter Lemenkov wrote: Hello All! I plan to add arm-toolchain into Fedora and encountered a difficulty - how to properly name the package? From what I found in the Internets, the cross-toolchains *often* named with the following prefix: For example: i686-pc-linux-gnu- powerpc-unknown-linu

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-11 Thread Joshua C.
2009/7/10 Tom "spot" Callaway : > On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote: >> I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following >> x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when >> compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits? >> >>  mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 ne