On 08/07/2009 01:03 AM, Till Maas wrote:
Would it be ok, to do this and allow maintainers to add there package to
a black list, so that no bugs will be filed or should it continue to be
opt-in? Then the packags will still be checked, but only reported by
other, non intrusive ways, e.g. via
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Rahul
Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I would prefer the system to be opt-out. For completely new maintainers
or anyone maintaining more than a few packages, it certainly is very
useful to get notification via bugzilla about new upstream releases.
On 08/06/2009 08:50 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
I corrected Peter and Rahul, who did review one of the packages. Both
were tankful for my corrections and incorporated the suggestions.
That is because they were specific and were things that were in the
guidelines. It takes the personalities
On Friday 07 August 2009 04:21:56 Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:30 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 12:06 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
OK, bad example, but you know what I mean.
Yes, I do, and I think there is room for a Fedora offering that is
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:35:14AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/06/2009 09:33 PM, Till Maas wrote:
currently upstream release monitoring[0] bug filing is opt-in, which
means that it will be only performed for packages that have been activly
added by probably a maintainer of the package.
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 11:27:23PM -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
Speaking just for myself, I'd be happy to have it automatic for my
packages. But wow, who's going to key in all those regexps and keep it
up to date?
On source of normalized data is Oswatershed[0]. My long time vision
would be to
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:48 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
Would it be ok, to do this and allow maintainers to add there package to
a black list, so that no bugs will be filed or should it continue to be
opt-in? Then the packags will still be checked, but only reported by
other, non intrusive
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:56:03AM +0200, Pierre-Yves wrote:
It remembers me a website made by Remi[1] which list for all the package
available, for all the branch what version are in the repo.
It also provides comparison between upstream and repo for some packages
such as the PECL, PEAR and
On Friday 07 August 2009 09:56:03 Pierre-Yves wrote:
It remembers me a website made by Remi[1] which list for all the package
available, for all the branch what version are in the repo.
It also provides comparison between upstream and repo for some packages
such as the PECL, PEAR and R
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 10:21:20PM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Rahul
Sundaramsunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I would prefer the system to be opt-out. For completely new maintainers
or anyone maintaining more than a few packages, it certainly is very
Am Donnerstag, den 06.08.2009, 18:08 +0200 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
On 08/06/2009 05:16 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
[snipped]
Sorry, you didn't pick up any of the bugs, none was assigned to you.
There is none assigned to me, because I turned away from this person's
reviews.
You can find
Just went to download a Fedora ISO and I'm struck once again by how
peculiar the Fedora homepage has become:
http://fedoraproject.org/
(or screenshot: http://www.annexia.org/tmp/fedora.png)
What does the word Reign have to do with a Linux distro? If I knew
nothing about Fedora, what
On 08/06/2009 09:12 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Ralf Corsepius, Thu, 06 Aug 2009 18:14:47 +0200:
I turned away from supporting Mr. Robinson, ignored his reviews and left
reviews to others
So you lost your right to slander him now.
Do you expect people to continue a review even when you'd have to
On 08/07/2009 01:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Just went to download a Fedora ISO and I'm struck once again by how
peculiar the Fedora homepage has become:
http://fedoraproject.org/
(or screenshot: http://www.annexia.org/tmp/fedora.png)
What does the word Reign have to do with a Linux
On 08/07/2009 10:48 AM, Till Maas wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:35:14AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/06/2009 09:33 PM, Till Maas wrote:
currently upstream release monitoring[0] bug filing is opt-in, which
means that it will be only performed for packages that have been activly
On Friday 07 August 2009 10:42:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/07/2009 01:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The other problem is if you'd like stable updates but you prefer KDE, or
vice versa =)
Why do you expect that updating to the latest KDE means unstable system?
;-)
As already
On 08/07/2009 04:48 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 07 August 2009 10:42:35 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/07/2009 01:35 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
The other problem is if you'd like stable updates but you prefer KDE, or
vice versa =)
Why do you expect that updating to the latest KDE means
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:28:50PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/07/2009 10:48 AM, Till Maas wrote:
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:35:14AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/06/2009 09:33 PM, Till Maas wrote:
currently upstream release monitoring[0] bug filing is opt-in, which
means that it
I was able to do that using triggerin -- packagename.
Thanks for helping.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:56 AM, yersiniayersinia.spi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Adam Millermaxamill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Murilo Opsfelder
2009/8/5 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com:
If we just want to dump all the latest stuff in there, why bother with
freezes and releases at all ? We could all just use rawhide...
While often repeated, I don't think that argument is true.
Some people (including me) like the idea of having a
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:33 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Just went to download a Fedora ISO and I'm struck once again by how
peculiar the Fedora homepage has become:
http://fedoraproject.org/
(or screenshot: http://www.annexia.org/tmp/fedora.png)
What does the word Reign have to do
2009/8/7 Thomas Moschny thomas.mosc...@gmail.com:
2009/8/5 Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com:
If we just want to dump all the latest stuff in there, why bother with
freezes and releases at all ? We could all just use rawhide...
While often repeated, I don't think that argument is true.
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is any plan about including
NetworkManager-novellvpn [1] in Fedora.
Or if there is a GUI alternative to this package.
[1] http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18321.html
Thanks in advance.
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Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de writes:
On 08/06/2009 09:12 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Do you expect people to continue a review even when you'd have to
decide against the best of your knowledge and conciousness?
Actually, yes, I do. Your job is not to make packages perfect, but to
check they
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:47 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
Yea well, I dunno about you guys who run rawhide. But as an F-11 user,
I am *very* glad I use KDE and the KDE SIG is giving me the latest and
greatest to use. I
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:29 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
Is there something like python-fedora to create notifications within the
portal?
I don't have an answer to the above question, but I do have an answer
about the future.
The eventual goal is to use a AMQP message bus to pass this kind of
Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said:
I considered IT might be redundant information, too, when
I created the groups, but also both the terms Forensics or Wireless
are not IT specific, therefore I put the IT-security explanation into
the description. There can be wireless analysis that is
Jesse Keating (jkeat...@redhat.com) said:
Ralf, this entire service is informational only. Maintainers don't need
to do anything with this information, particularly if it isn't being
filed as bugs and only provided on a webpage. They can simply ignore
the information or even pretend that
On Friday 07 August 2009 14:05:25 Thomas Janssen wrote:
And back to the topic, afaik the KDE 4.3 packages have indeed been
tested (via kde-redhat/testing etc) before being thrown on the f10
f11 users.
Indeed. Even the RCs up to 4.2.98 have been tested via the kde-redhat
repo, bugs filed
Il giorno lun, 03/08/2009 alle 20.55 +0200, Michal Schmidt ha scritto:
Not a bug. You're running bash in POSIX mode (probably you ran sh).
In POSIX mode the current directory is not searched by the source
command. This is documented in the manpage.
IMHO, this is a Bug.
source: usage: source
On 08/06/2009 10:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
so if a package does get an 'adventurous' update
then hits a security bug, there's no way to have a separate update
without the adventurous change but with the security bug fixed
so, two separate issues: one is making the updates, the other is
On 08/06/2009 08:57 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote:
Just a thought, but could that SIG just enforce a critical path-
like workflow (with overrides from the security team) on FN-2?
They would have to be willing to do the QA, talk with SIGs and
maintainers, and be large enough to be able to do so.
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 07:38 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
I don't draw the line, the maintainers of each package draw their own
line. I just sit back and comfortably sip on my mai tai while the
people who know best make the proper decisions.
But you obviously have a personal line
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 07:38 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Jesse Keatingjkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:47 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
Yea well, I dunno about you guys who run rawhide. But as an F-11 user,
I am *very* glad I use KDE
Jesse Keating wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 07:38 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote:
I don't draw the line, the maintainers of each package draw their own
line. I just sit back and comfortably sip on my mai tai while the
people who know best make the proper decisions.
But you obviously have a
Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it writes:
Il giorno lun, 03/08/2009 alle 20.55 +0200, Michal Schmidt ha scritto:
Not a bug. You're running bash in POSIX mode (probably you ran sh).
In POSIX mode the current directory is not searched by the source
command. This is documented in the manpage.
Dario Lesca wrote:
Il giorno lun, 03/08/2009 alle 20.55 +0200, Michal Schmidt ha
scritto:
Not a bug. You're running bash in POSIX mode (probably you ran
sh). In POSIX mode the current directory is not searched by the
source command. This is documented in the manpage.
IMHO, this is a Bug.
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:05 -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
For me, that's easy. I don't want updates that the packagers don't
consider stable. It sure sounds to me like Christopher feels the same way.
I am willing to take the latest upstream builds because the maintainer
considers them
Hi all,
time for another 'Fit and Finish' test day. This time, we want to look
at issues and use cases surrounding anything you can plug into your
computer, be it a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Join us in #fedora-fit-and-finish on Freenode, on Aug 11
Il giorno ven, 07/08/2009 alle 18.14 +0200, Andreas Schwab ha scritto:
due to concerns about
introducing the susceptibility to trojan horses
Ok.
It's not a Bug.
Thanks for reply to all.
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Jesse Keating wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:05 -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
For me, that's easy. I don't want updates that the packagers don't
consider stable. It sure sounds to me like Christopher feels the same way.
I am willing to take the latest upstream builds because the maintainer
On 08/07/2009 12:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Real plastic and metal plugs only, or bluetooth connections as well?
-Bill
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On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:34 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On 08/07/2009 12:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Real plastic and metal plugs only, or bluetooth connections as well?
Bluetooth is definitively in scope.
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On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 12:21 -0500, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
If that put an end to stuff like 'sorry, that last glibc rpm bricks your
system if you have the misfortune of installing it'... maybe. As I said,
right now my line is packages that the maintainers consider stable.
If rawhide became
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 10:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Well with the no frozen rawhide proposal, from the Alpha freeze point on
there would be such an updates-testing for the pending release, while
rawhide remains the wild west. You could say install F12, then at F13
Alpha jump onto F13
Jesse Keating wrote:
Well with the no frozen rawhide proposal, from the Alpha freeze point on
there would be such an updates-testing for the pending release, while
rawhide remains the wild west. You could say install F12, then at F13
Alpha jump onto F13 and have the much newer more often
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-08-07/fedora-meeting.2009-08-07-17.00.txt
Log:
Today in our F12Alpha Blocker meeting we discussed the status of the
Firefox SELinux bug.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512845
And we were hoping to get in contact with caillon, stransky, jhorak
for more information on the bug as well as send this to the developer
list in order to
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:33:06PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
Would it be ok, to do this and allow maintainers to add there package to
a black list, so that no bugs will be filed or should it continue to be
opt-in? Then the packags will still be checked, but only reported by
other, non intrusive
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:56:10AM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
- BZ seems the wrong place. It's the only push mechanism we have other
than raw e-mail, though.
Pushing messages to maintainers is not the only necessary feature. The
maintainers also need to be able to easily coordinate who
On 08/06/2009 01:26 AM, Dave Airlie wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 15:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
A few days back I ran into
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-July/001293.html
I am wondering, since we are already using KMS in most places in Fedora,
how far are we from
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:20 -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 08:15:59PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
I had the same confusion. So there are 3 drivers around: The vendor
driver, the staging driver which is a fork of the vendor driver and
the serialmonkey driver.
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 11:11 -0300, Murilo Opsfelder Araujo wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is any plan about including
NetworkManager-novellvpn [1] in Fedora.
Or if there is a GUI alternative to this package.
[1] http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/18321.html
Thanks in
On 08/07/2009 03:40 PM, Adam Miller wrote:
to get any outside feedback that others might have on
the topic of this being a F12Alpha Blocker.
it's a restricted-access bug.
-Bill
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Can someone explain why tcl/tk is
compiled using:
%configure --disable-threads
This breaks some python programs, which use threads and Tk, with the
following error:
Unhandled exception in thread started by function updateClock at
0x7fb431cc28c0
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:42 -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On 08/06/2009 01:26 AM, Dave Airlie wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 15:08 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
A few days back I ran into
http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel/2009-July/001293.html
I am wondering, since we are
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone explain why tcl/tk is
compiled using:
%configure --disable-threads
This breaks some python programs, which use threads and Tk, with the
following error:
Unhandled exception in thread started by function
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com wrote:
Can someone explain why tcl/tk is
compiled using:
%configure --disable-threads
This breaks some python programs, which use threads and Tk,
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 19:12 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti
pro...@gmail.com wrote:
Can
2009/8/7 Paulo Cavalcanti pro...@gmail.com:
Can someone explain why tcl/tk is
compiled using:
%configure --disable-threads
A search through the spec file links back to this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=443246
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On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:42 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:34 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On 08/07/2009 12:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at home...
Real plastic and metal plugs only, or bluetooth
The names of the 32-bit Live CDs already use i686, consistent with the
minimum required arch. But the 32-bit DVD still uses i386, despite the
fact that not only has i586 been required for years, but with the i586
package rebuild, there aren't even any i386 packages on the DVD anymore.
Now i686
And the 32-bit CD sets, too - I forgot about those.
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Andre Robatino wrote:
The names of the 32-bit Live CDs already use i686, consistent
with the
minimum required arch. But the 32-bit DVD still uses i386,
despite the
fact that not only has i586 been required for years, but with
the i586
package
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 15:52 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:42 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 13:34 -0400, Bill McGonigle wrote:
On 08/07/2009 12:53 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
a camera, a phone, a usb stick, or whatever gizmos you
have at
Thanks to everyone who came and participated. Another successful
blocker review meeting was had today.
A reminder that at the Release Engineering meeting on Monday at 1800UTC
(2PM EDT, 11AM PDT) on #fedora-meeting, another review of the Fedora 12
Alpha blocker will be performed to see if we
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 23:07 -0300, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
Has someone tested eggdrop with a recent version of tcl compiled with
threads?
Maybe the problem has gone. I tested with Ubuntu and it worked.
Therefore,
they should be using threads in tcl.
I posted a reply with a link to a
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 02:07 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Apart from the USB video cards, if you have any of those, feel free to
come around.
I have modems, 3G modems, mice, headsets, webcams, phones running any
one of a dozen different operating systems, mp3 players, Wiimotes, and a
On 08/07/2009 04:19 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de writes:
On 08/06/2009 09:12 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Do you expect people to continue a review even when you'd have to
decide against the best of your knowledge and conciousness?
Actually, yes, I do. Your job is not to
Jesse Keating wrote:
We're providing a bunch of packages, that certain groups use to make a
variety of operating systems. If you want to develop a tool and expect
that it'll keep working on any given release without aggressive changes
underneath, pick the Fedora Desktop operating system. If
Adam Williamson wrote:
It seems to happen rather a lot for that to be the case, though maybe
the situation I'm most familiar with (KDE 4.0 - 4.1 - 4.2) is an
unusual situation. I was watching KDE quite closely in MDV at that
point, as quite a lot of features that people expected from 3.x were
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 05:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
IMHO, the proper way is to express opinion, and even when disagreement
happens, approve review
== switch off your brains, morals, knowledge
Pardon, but you don't want how disgusting I find this logic of yours.
If you're invoking
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
As already explained, stable in the sense of things that work the same
(No big UI changes etc).
When did we push *big* UI changes in a KDE update? We're even making sure
the default Plasma theme in F10 and F11 stays Oxygen rather than switching
to Air which is the new
Adam Williamson wrote:
Er, the _topic_ of this thread is Fedora 12 Features Proposed for
Removal. The email doesn't say anything about 'if you fix this stuff
before the meeting it'll be fine' (though that may be the actual case),
and the amount of notice given is a princely two days, which
Adam Williamson wrote:
Which leads to the absurdity we have here, the suggestion that
the GNOME 2.28 'feature' should be 'dropped' for Fedora 12 (does anyone
really think we're going to ship it with GNOME 2.26?)
Don't worry, we all voted against dropping that feature.
Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote:
A good example of the weirdness here - we're declaring KDE 4.3 a 'Fedora
12 feature' (implying it's something sufficiently potentially
problematic that it needs a specific test plan and contingency plan),
yet backporting it to Fedora 10 as an official update meets with
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
lack of maintainer skills (e.g. running the autotools),
You are insulting maintainers for having a different opinion, or even just
practical reasons you may not even know about for having to autoreconf a
program. This is not acceptable.
Are you claiming KDE SIG is
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