Re: Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:02:38 +0200, Daniel Drake wrote: > We do have a F11 box [...] > I then tried to create a F9 chroot using mock, with the intention of > running revisor or pungi inside. This doesn't work, because mock > creates a v9 berkeley DB inside the chroot, but the libraries/apps > insid

Re: [Server-devel] Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/15 Jerry Vonau : > Are you just adding rpms to the install media? Or are you trying > something more difficult? I have a process in mind if you're just adding > rpms to the mix... Just adding RPMs would be enough, but also we're customizing the kickstart file a little. > However, I see tha

Re: Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/9/15 Martin Langhoff : > I keep my build machine of F9 due to similar issues I saw building F7 > from F9 -- however, ISTR there's been some discussion of this > recently. Hmmm, a bit of googling leads to a nice thread > >  http://www.mail-archive.com/fedora-buildsys-l...@redhat.com/msg02210.ht

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 01:10 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > >> This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after the >> fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue at >> this point because rsync is already in the distribution. We need to fix >>

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 01:29 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after >> the >> fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue >> at >> this point because rsync is already i

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 15:10 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: > Not good at this point in the release cycle, but... an option is to > block it > from rawhide, until fixed/resolved. That'll light a fire to make > things > happen surely. Please go ahead, and find another maintainer while you are there. S

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after > the > fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue > at > this point because rsync is already in the distribution. We need to > fix > this lack

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Rex Dieter
Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after the > fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue at > this point because rsync is already in the distribution. We need to fix > this lack of incentive for other reasons -- but w

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 12:14 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 11:27 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On 09/15/2009 06:55 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:44 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: Hey, I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kass

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 11:27 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On 09/15/2009 06:55 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:44 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > >> Hey, > >> > >> I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias > >> answer (comment 3) > >> > >> http:

Re: EDID necessary for fixed-format displays?

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 11:13 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > > We get FF [fixed format] displays pretty much right, > > What is holding up https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493441 Primarily that it's rage128 hardware, which no one likes working on. > where a 1024x768 LCD panel is recognize

Re: Default heuristics for variable-format displays

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 10:48 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I know that, in the dinosaur days of CRT, I could 'see' flicker (and get > flicker-generated headaches) at anything under 80Hz, and I know there > are even more sensitive people than that. So 72Hz may be a bit of a low > 'safe refresh rat

Re: Default heuristics for variable-format displays

2009-09-15 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-09-15 12:06:54, Adam Jackson wrote: ... > def mode_dpi_cmp(x, y): > return cmp(abs(x.dpi - 96), abs(y.dpi - 96)) ... The names x and y suggest coordinates to me. I'd have read the code right the first time if the names had been a and b. > def best_mode(modes, dpi_known = True): >

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 06:55 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:44 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias >> answer (comment 3) >> >> http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/zsync-transfer-large-files-efficiently/

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread Andre Robatino
On 09/15/2009 02:01 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 09/15/2009 10:29 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: >> I'm using the latest F11 version of squashfs-tools on a fully updated >> x86_64 F11 box. Just discovered that it works on >> Fedora-11-i686-Live.iso, but fails with F10-i686-Live.iso. So the new >> quest

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com) said: > >I'm not sure how 'simple' that is in the koji configuration. > > It will have to be done anyway, yes? Well, that would involve disabling all ppc builders for a release entirely, which is much simpler. But this isn't the right list anyway. Bill -- fedora

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 01:56:55PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com) said: >> Simple solution: Don't build the noarch RPMs on ppc. >> Why?: Because F12 is the last release that will have ppc be a primary arch >> and it is fairly arguable that you want to optimize for t

EDID necessary for fixed-format displays?

2009-09-15 Thread John Reiser
> We get FF [fixed format] displays pretty much right, What is holding up https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493441 where a 1024x768 LCD panel is recognized only as 800x600, and with no option to choose 1024x768, except via explicit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? That box does not have EDID, but

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread John Reiser
On 09/15/2009 10:29 AM, Andre Robatino wrote: I'm using the latest F11 version of squashfs-tools on a fully updated x86_64 F11 box. Just discovered that it works on Fedora-11-i686-Live.iso, but fails with F10-i686-Live.iso. So the new question is, why doesn't it work with the F10 image? That'

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Josh Boyer (jwbo...@gmail.com) said: > Simple solution: Don't build the noarch RPMs on ppc. > Why?: Because F12 is the last release that will have ppc be a primary arch > and it is fairly arguable that you want to optimize for the future case going > forward anyway. I'm not sure how 'simple' tha

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-15 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:38:32AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 01:27 -0400, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Seth Vidal >> wrote: >> > >> > Boy, I'm so glad we decided to jump onto the xz ship. >> > >> I take it it's too late to back out a

Re: Default heuristics for variable-format displays

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:06 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > In attempting to document how displays are expected to work in F12 [1], > I realized we still don't have a decent heuristic for some cases. > > Broadly, displays are either fixed-format or variable-format. FF means > you have some set numbe

Re: Deltarpm xz problem with PPC generated rpms?

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 01:27 -0400, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > Boy, I'm so glad we decided to jump onto the xz ship. > > > I take it it's too late to back out and stick to bzip2 until the > situation stabilizes? I take it whatever solu

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:55 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > At present we are > > > still in the contradictory and unsatisfactory position of > > shipping rsync > > > with an internal forked zlib b

Default heuristics for variable-format displays

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
In attempting to document how displays are expected to work in F12 [1], I realized we still don't have a decent heuristic for some cases. Broadly, displays are either fixed-format or variable-format. FF means you have some set number of pixels, like an LCD. VF means you don't, like a CRT. (Proj

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 13:44 +0200, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > Hey, > > I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias > answer (comment 3) > > http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/zsync-transfer-large-files-efficiently/ If we _really_ cared about doing this OAOO, we co

Re: Mouse pointer freezing in f12 and f11

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 19:29 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > I've had a problem with X in f12 or some time that sees the mouse > pointer freezing. I'm now having the same issue in f11. > > I'm happy to file a bug in bugzilla, but I'm hoping someone mught be > able to point me in the right direction.

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread Andre Robatino
On 09/15/2009 01:15 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> I tried doing this with the Live CDs for F10 and F11: > >> Parallel unsquashfs: Using 1 processor >> FATAL ERROR aborting: failed to read fragment table > >> What am I doing wrong? (I'm using the i686 live CDs. > > What versions are involved? [uns

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread John Reiser
I tried doing this with the Live CDs for F10 and F11: Parallel unsquashfs: Using 1 processor FATAL ERROR aborting: failed to read fragment table What am I doing wrong? (I'm using the i686 live CDs. What versions are involved? [unsquashfs -v -ll foo.img] unsquashfs version 4.0 works for

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > >> At present we are >> still in the contradictory and unsatisfactory position of > shipping rsync >> with an internal forked zlib but refusing to accept zsync > as a package >> because it does

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread Aditya Patawari
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > What do you mean when you say it "will only clutter the space"? By this I mean to say that if we give 4 gb pre-installed stuff then menu and workspace will be too cluttered. It will be hard to find

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 08:55 -0600, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > At present we are > > still in the contradictory and unsatisfactory position of > shipping rsync > > with an internal forked zlib but refusing to accept zsync > as a package > > because it does exactly

Re: [Server-devel] Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 15:47 +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > Hi, > > A number of difficulties/unfortunate circumstances are combining and > causing me a headache. I'm looking for help/ideas on getting around > these... > > I am trying to build a customized version of the OLPC XS school server > for t

KDE-SIG weekly report (38/2009)

2009-09-15 Thread Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Adam Williamson wrote: > At present we are > still in the contradictory and unsatisfactory position of shipping rsync > with an internal forked zlib but refusing to accept zsync as a package > because it does exactly the same thing. I hope this would not mean that rsync would be discontinued i

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/15/2009 04:44 AM, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: > Hey, > > I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias answer > (comment 3) > > http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/zsync-transfer-large-files-efficiently/ > > I will note that the reply is not quite right. We can

Re: Adding a new package to rawhide/F-12

2009-09-15 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 02:36:57PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > I'd like to add a new package (virt-v2v) to rawhide/F-12. Nothing > depends on it. I don't appear to be able to do this, although I can add > it to the supposedly stable F-11. This seems like an unlikely state of > affairs. Am I mi

Adding a new package to rawhide/F-12

2009-09-15 Thread Matthew Booth
I'd like to add a new package (virt-v2v) to rawhide/F-12. Nothing depends on it. I don't appear to be able to do this, although I can add it to the supposedly stable F-11. This seems like an unlikely state of affairs. Am I missing something? Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Booth, RHCA, RHCSS Red Hat

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread Andre Robatino
On 09/14/2009 03:48 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > On 09/14/2009 12:05 PM, John Reiser wrote: >>> Deltaisos are capable of saving roughly half the download size in >>> going from Fedora N to Fedora (N+1), but only work for installation >>> images, not live images. Is there any form of delta compressi

rawhide report: 20090915 changes

2009-09-15 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Sep 15 06:15:09 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) clutter-c

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-15 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Monday, 14 September 2009 at 22:41, Aditya Patawari wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > I think that if we're going to ship software, > > we should also preinstall it on the live image. Otherwise users can't try > > it > > out right away when starting the live sy

Re: how to become a co-maintainer for an _existing_ RPM pkg

2009-09-15 Thread Paul Howarth
On 15/09/09 12:50, Josephine Tannhäuser wrote: I want to become a maintainer too and I want to impress with some unofficial reviews. Don't really know if this is socially accepted to nag in other reviews without having an open review request Go right ahead. A valid comment is a valid comment re

Re: how to become a co-maintainer for an _existing_ RPM pkg

2009-09-15 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
I want to become a maintainer too and I want to impress with some unofficial reviews. Don't really know if this is socially accepted to nag in other reviews without having an open review request -- Josephine "Fine" Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-15 Thread Josephine Tannhäuser
Hey, I googled for it and found Karims blogpost and Simon aka kassamedias answer (comment 3) http://kparal.wordpress.com/2009/09/01/zsync-transfer-large-files-efficiently/ -- Josephine "Fine" Tannhäuser 2.6.29.6-213.fc11.i586 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https

Re: Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Daniel Drake wrote: > I then tried to create a F9 chroot using mock, with the intention of > running revisor or pungi inside. This doesn't work, because mock > creates a v9 berkeley DB inside the chroot, but the libraries/apps > inside the chroot only support bdb

Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-15 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, A number of difficulties/unfortunate circumstances are combining and causing me a headache. I'm looking for help/ideas on getting around these... I am trying to build a customized version of the OLPC XS school server for the OLPC deployment here in Nepal. The latest XS release is based on F9.

Re: Is Fedora Hosted ok?

2009-09-15 Thread SmootherFrOgZ
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: > If so, could somebody have a look at > https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1662 for me? There are > also older outstanding hosting requests than mine on there. > I'll take care of your request. > Thanks, > -- Xavier.t L

Is Fedora Hosted ok?

2009-09-15 Thread Matthew Booth
If so, could somebody have a look at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1662 for me? There are also older outstanding hosting requests than mine on there. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Booth, RHCA, RHCSS Red Hat Engineering, Virtualisation Team M: +44 (0)7977 267231 GPG ID: