Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Jeu 17 septembre 2009 02:47, Jesse Keating a écrit : > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:08 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: >> Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? > > Because these aren't file level conflicts, as in they can both exist on > the filesystem at the same time and RPM

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:08 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? This is acting at the level of individual filenames (dropping the directory component from the path), and doesn't have any knowledge about a file beyond its full installation pa

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 21:10:16 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > But the original problem was a file level conflict. Is it ever valid for 2 > packages to own the same file? Yes. At a minimum the file's contents has to be identical in the two packages. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Neal Becker
Jesse Keating wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:08 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: >> Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? > > Because these aren't file level conflicts, as in they can both exist on > the filesystem at the same time and RPM won't care. However they can > l

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 17:32 -0700, J. Randall Owens wrote: > Why not just have a system somewhere with Everything installed, including new > stuff? That's what I almost have myself, and I noticed the libotf/openmpi > conflict quite a while ago (it's why I don't have the latter installed > anymore

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 20:08 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? Because these aren't file level conflicts, as in they can both exist on the filesystem at the same time and RPM won't care. However they can lead to unexpected things due to P

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread J. Randall Owens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/16/2009 05:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? Why not just have a system somewhere with Everything installed, including new stuff? That's what I almost have myself, and I noticed the li

Re: Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread Neal Becker
Why not report all conflicts, instead of only those on your PATH? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Script to detect conflicting files in PATH within a yum repo (was Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi)

2009-09-16 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 18:45 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Which makes me wonder, how could this conflict have been avoided? Is there > a tool that would check any new package to see if any object* in it would > conflict with any existing package? If not, sounds like a good thing to > have. > >

Fedora 12 Beta Review Meeting--Friday 2009-09-18 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT)

2009-09-16 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2009-09-18 @ 15:00 UTC (11 AM EDT) Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Join us Friday for the second blocker bug review of the F-12-Beta cycle. Review will focus on unresolved bugs listed on the F12Beta list Have an issue you'd like to propose for F12Beta? Please conside

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Neal Becker
Which makes me wonder, how could this conflict have been avoided? Is there a tool that would check any new package to see if any object* in it would conflict with any existing package? If not, sounds like a good thing to have. * Here, object means filesystem object. I'm not sure if there are

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 22:55 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wednesday 16 September 2009, Jay Fenlason wrote: > > otfdump will be in > > openmpi-devel: %{_libdir}/%{name}/bin/ where it won't interfere with > > libotf. > > IIUC this will only help wrt. the packaging conflict; interference still >

Re: Evolution time format/double address book entries

2009-09-16 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 12:01 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 07:40 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > > In the date field while viewing emails, it shows the time in 24 hour > > time instead of 12 hour time with am/pm. I have went into any > > preferences and made sure the

Close comments/karma after update push?

2009-09-16 Thread Michael Cronenworth
After a recent xorg bug[1] with intel chips, I had to question the use of bodhi for karma/comments after an update has been pushed to "updates." Should the comments and karma for packages be closed after an update leaves "updates-testing?" I don't see any value and it seems the wrong place to have

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 08:59 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Am 16.09.2009 17:47, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > >> That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync >> upstream to make their fork publicly available instead of hoarding >> it as a private, internal copy. > > I would ask, why the mo

Re: boot/init conf at plumbers conf next week.

2009-09-16 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 09/16/2009 03:22 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > I'm MC'ing the boot/init miniconf next week at the plumbers > conference in Portland, and a slot has become available that > I don't have anyone to fill. > > If you're going to be there anyway, and you have something to > talk about that may be relevant

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 16 September 2009, Jay Fenlason wrote: > otfdump will be in > openmpi-devel: %{_libdir}/%{name}/bin/ where it won't interfere with > libotf. IIUC this will only help wrt. the packaging conflict; interference still happens as $PATH changes e.g. when loading/unloading the openmpi modu

boot/init conf at plumbers conf next week.

2009-09-16 Thread Dave Jones
I'm MC'ing the boot/init miniconf next week at the plumbers conference in Portland, and a slot has become available that I don't have anyone to fill. If you're going to be there anyway, and you have something to talk about that may be relevant (other talks lined up include dracut & upstart) then l

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Jon Ciesla
Jay Fenlason wrote: On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:04:17PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 14:53 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is either: OpenTypeFont (libotf) or OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) I maintain libotf.

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Jay Fenlason
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:04:17PM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 14:53 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > > It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is > > either: > > > > OpenTypeFont (libotf) > > or > > OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) > > > > I maintain libot

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Neal Becker
Jon Ciesla wrote: > Neal Becker wrote: >> It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is >> either: >> >> OpenTypeFont (libotf) >> or >> OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) >> >> I maintain libotf. I'm not sure how to address this. >> >> My only interest in libotf is so emacs can use

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 14:53 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is > either: > > OpenTypeFont (libotf) > or > OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) > > I maintain libotf. I'm not sure how to address this. > > My only interest in libotf is so emacs

Re: conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Jon Ciesla
Neal Becker wrote: It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is either: OpenTypeFont (libotf) or OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) I maintain libotf. I'm not sure how to address this. My only interest in libotf is so emacs can use it. For that, it doesn't need the binaries

conflict between libotf and openmpi

2009-09-16 Thread Neal Becker
It seems both openmpi and libotf supply a %{_bindir}/otfdump. otf is either: OpenTypeFont (libotf) or OpenTraceFormat (openmpi) I maintain libotf. I'm not sure how to address this. My only interest in libotf is so emacs can use it. For that, it doesn't need the binaries. Perhaps they could

problems with the latest texlive-2009 update on rawhide

2009-09-16 Thread José Matos
After the update of texlive-2009 packages on rawhide latex has ceased to work: $ pdflatex mnc_modulo_2-mod-graph This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (Web2C 2009) restricted \write18 enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdflatex.fmt I can't find the format file `pdflatex.fmt'! The suspect

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 08:59 AM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Am 16.09.2009 17:47, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > >> That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync >> upstream to make their fork publicly available instead of hoarding >> it as a private, internal copy. > > I would ask, why the mo

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 08:47 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Ah -- I was reading that as three separate options. I can see how it > could be read as three steps in a single solution as well. > > That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync > upstream to make their fork publicl

Re: [Server-devel] Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-16 Thread Jerry Vonau
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 10:32 +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2009/9/15 Jerry Vonau : > > Are you just adding rpms to the install media? Or are you trying > > something more difficult? I have a process in mind if you're just adding > > rpms to the mix... > > Just adding RPMs would be enough, but also w

Re: Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-16 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > Hi, > > filed as: >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523698 > > how to possibly fix the problem by a backport from rpm5.org as suggested by > Jeff Johnson. > For rpm 4.4 the backport was already filled but reject. https://

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 16.09.2009 17:47, schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > > That still leaves open the question of why no one has asked rsync > upstream to make their fork publicly available instead of hoarding > it as a private, internal copy. > I would ask, why the modificati

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 08:39 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 08:10 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> This is a logical leap. rsync has forked zlib but they are only using >> the fork internally. 2 and 3 get that fork out in the open so that >> more >> than one program can use it. 2 and 3 are

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-16 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 09/16/2009 08:20 AM, Nathanael Noblet wrote: I didn't because it still had quite a few patches that needed to go upstream. I'll take a look at version 2.3... Yeah the lib-patches is still full of patches... -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.co

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 03:32 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > 2009/9/15 Simo Sorce : >> On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >>> This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after >>> the >>> fact. Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue >>> at >>

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 08:10 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > This is a logical leap. rsync has forked zlib but they are only using > the fork internally. 2 and 3 get that fork out in the open so that > more > than one program can use it. 2 and 3 are solutions when solution 1 > fails. Since solut

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 12:42 AM, Tomas Mraz wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 14:01 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On 09/15/2009 01:29 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > >>> Sorry but the packager may have no way to influence upstream. >>> And to be honest having a huge patch against rsync and/or zsync to >>> extract

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Benny Amorsen wrote: > Colin Walters writes: > >> I'd imagine that running the "live Anaconda" UI from inside the GDM X >> session wouldn't take significantly more resources than the Anaconda >> OS after creating an image that doesn't have games, etc. > > Images

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 09/16/2009 06:43 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:32 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> Looking through the mailing list archives, as far as I can tell, noone >> has tried this course of action yet: >> >> 1) Ask zlib upstream to accept the changes that the rsync devs made to >>

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-16 Thread Nathanael Noblet
On Sep 16, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Pim Zandbergen wrote: Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 07/09/2009 02:31 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: That said, I have it up and running on an F11 host at home right now, satisfying everything else w/Fedora packages. Yeah same here. Did any of you create a calend

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:32 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Looking through the mailing list archives, as far as I can tell, noone > has tried this course of action yet: > > 1) Ask zlib upstream to accept the changes that the rsync devs made to > zlib and issue a new release > 2) Ask rsync upst

Re: Troubles running F9 mock chroot under F11

2009-09-16 Thread Jan Kratochvil
Hi, filed as: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523698 how to possibly fix the problem by a backport from rpm5.org as suggested by Jeff Johnson. Thanks, Jan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-li

rawhide report: 20090916 changes

2009-09-16 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Sep 16 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- anerley-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires libmissioncontrol-client.so.0 anerley-devel-0.0.20-3.fc12.i686 requires pkgconfig(libmissioncontrol) clutter-c

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-16 Thread Jarod Wilson
On 09/16/2009 08:02 AM, Pim Zandbergen wrote: Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 07/09/2009 02:31 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: That said, I have it up and running on an F11 host at home right now, satisfying everything else w/Fedora packages. Yeah same here. Did any of you create a calendarserver R

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-16 Thread Pim Zandbergen
Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: On 07/09/2009 02:31 PM, Jarod Wilson wrote: That said, I have it up and running on an F11 host at home right now, satisfying everything else w/Fedora packages. Yeah same here. Did any of you create a calendarserver RPM ? That would give a head start trying to bu

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 09/16/2009 01:59 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > And yes I am the maintainer of rsync and I am not doing the job, because > I don't want to have to create or maintain such patcheset until the day > I am reasonably sure upstream will want such patches. So, have you asked upstream this question? > Fi

Re: Mouse pointer freezing in f12 and f11

2009-09-16 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 09:42 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-09-10 at 19:29 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote: > > I've had a problem with X in f12 or some time that sees the mouse > > pointer freezing. I'm now having the same issue in f11. > > > > I'm happy to file a bug in bugzilla, but I'm h

Re: Evolution time format/double address book entries

2009-09-16 Thread Milan Crha
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 12:05 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > > One thing I have noticed though is that "yesterday" shown in the Date > > column in table format seems to be two days (i.e. on 13th September all > > emails received on both the 12th and 11th September are shown as > > yesterday), and the "2

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/9/15 Simo Sorce : > On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 12:34 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> This would be great if maintainers were willing to fix issues after >> the >> fact.  Look at rsync -- there's no incentive to fix the library issue >> at >> this point because rsync is already in the distribution.

Re: Introduction to a new SIG for creation of Live DVD

2009-09-16 Thread Benny Amorsen
Colin Walters writes: > I'd imagine that running the "live Anaconda" UI from inside the GDM X > session wouldn't take significantly more resources than the Anaconda > OS after creating an image that doesn't have games, etc. Images sound significantly more difficult to create and maintain than ki

Re: Evolution time format/double address book entries

2009-09-16 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 15:25 +0100, Quentin Armitage wrote: > I recollect that Evolution used to display times in am/pm format, but > mine is now displaying in 24 hour format (which I happen to prefer). see my reply to Mike for the preferences entry. > One thing I have noticed though

Re: Evolution time format/double address book entries

2009-09-16 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 07:40 -0500, Mike Chambers wrote: > In the date field while viewing emails, it shows the time in 24 hour > time instead of 12 hour time with am/pm. I have went into any > preferences and made sure the two settings that have time in them are > correct and what I w

Re: [Heads up] FUSE so-name bump is coming.

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2009/9/8 Ville Skyttä : > On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > >> I'll plan to upgrade fuse in Rawhide (and, possibly, in F-11) up to >> ver. 2.8.0, and there will be so-name bump. > > Rationale for considering doing it in F-11? After some thinking, I reconsidered plans to update

Re: [Heads up] FUSE so-name bump is coming.

2009-09-16 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2009/9/8 Till Maas : > Will you also rebuild the packages once the new fuse is in place? Yes, I'll try to rebuild also all packages, dependent on fuse. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/l

Re: status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync

2009-09-16 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 14:01 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On 09/15/2009 01:29 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > Sorry but the packager may have no way to influence upstream. > > And to be honest having a huge patch against rsync and/or zsync to > > extract a library against the will of the rsync and/or