Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 16:27 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Thanks for bringing this up. I'll create a patch for the scripts > generating the livecd to add rd_NO_LUKS to the normal livecd > syslinux.cfg entry. I already was planning on doing this, but I forgot. can you file a tag request to get thi

Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 4th

2009-10-05 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top five FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package review" components on bugzilla for 7 days ending 4th Oct were Mamoru Tasaka, Alan Pevec, Chitlesh GOORAH, Jan Klepek and Thomas Janssen. Start Date: 2009-09-27 00:00:00 End Date: 2009-10-04 00:00:00 Mamoru Tasaka - 5 http

Fedora 12 Beta Release Rescheduled to 2009-10-20

2009-10-05 Thread John Poelstra
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/12/Schedule At the Release Engineering meeting today https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-October/msg00244.html it was noted that we still do not have a beta RC composed because a few blocker bugs remain. The decision was made to move t

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:37 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > >> > Just for my information, do I read this correctly that >> > dracut/plymouth is supposed to show a graphical password prompt to >> > unlock encrypted partitions at boot time? >> Yes, if you have modesetting enabled and get a graphica

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, > What if / is encrypted, and /usr is a different volume encrypted with a > different password? We can't leave initrd yet because everything in / that we > actually _need_ isn't available. > > Sysadmins on crack break everything... True, if you 1) have encrypted / 2) have a separate /usr 3)

Heads-up: rb_libtorrent bump (Rawhide), rebuilds required

2009-10-05 Thread Peter Gordon
Hi, all. I just pushed an update to rb_libtorrent 0.14.16 in rawhide (F13+), which bumps the library soname from "libtorrent-rasterbar.so.3" to "libtorrent-rasterbar.so.5". Because of this change, applications which use this library will need to be rebuilt. According to repoquery, these are qbitt

Docs preparing to convert to Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 Unported license

2009-10-05 Thread Ian Weller
Today, the Docs team finalized the conversion of the licensing of our documentation and project content from the Open Publication License (OPL) to a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA). Docs originally reached a consensus to change the license in June 2009, and

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Joshua C.
2009/10/5 Adam Jackson : > On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:19 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > >> (gdb) bt >> #0  0x003cc3cd70b3 in __select_nocancel () from /lib64/libc.so.6 >> #1  0x004e615a in WaitForSomething ( >>     pClientsReady=) at WaitFor.c:228 >> #2  0x00446ef2 in Dispatch () at di

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 19:19 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > (gdb) bt > #0 0x003cc3cd70b3 in __select_nocancel () from /lib64/libc.so.6 > #1 0x004e615a in WaitForSomething ( > pClientsReady=) at WaitFor.c:228 > #2 0x00446ef2 in Dispatch () at dispatch.c:386 > #3 0x0042

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-10-05 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 20:32 +0200, Ahmed Kamal wrote: > Also the rawhide db itself. A guaranteed 8-12 megabyte > download usually swamps out any saving from presto (barring > changes to eclipse, kernel and openoffice). > > > Why aren't we rsync'ing that 12MB db, instead of

Fedora Release Engineering meeting summary for 2009-10-05

2009-10-05 Thread Jesse Keating
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-05/fedora-meeting.2009-10-05-18.02.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-05/fedora-meeting.2009-10-05-18.02.txt Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-10-05/fedora-meeting.20

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-10-05 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ahmed Kamal (email.ahmedka...@googlemail.com) said: > > Also the rawhide db itself. A guaranteed 8-12 megabyte download usually > > swamps out any saving from presto (barring changes to eclipse, kernel and > > openoffice). > > Why aren't we rsync'ing that 12MB db, instead of re-downloading ? Wasn'

rawhide report: 20091005 changes

2009-10-05 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Oct 5 06:15:11 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 -- clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cair

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-10-05 Thread Ahmed Kamal
> > Also the rawhide db itself. A guaranteed 8-12 megabyte download usually > swamps out any saving from presto (barring changes to eclipse, kernel and > openoffice). > > Why aren't we rsync'ing that 12MB db, instead of re-downloading ? Wasn't there some web friendly rsync fork -- fedora-devel-lis

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-10-05 Thread shmuel siegel
Eric Springer wrote: Would it be possible to have a diff on the filelist db? It seems like a very large download for something that would change very little. Also the rawhide db itself. A guaranteed 8-12 megabyte download usually swamps out any saving from presto (barring changes to eclipse,

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Joshua C.
2009/10/5 Colin Walters : > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >> Before typing in cont, of course.  "cont" continues execution from where >> you're currently stopped.  "bt" shows a backtrace of where you're >> currently stopped. > > If you're not planning to actively debug and

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > > Before typing in cont, of course. "cont" continues execution from where > you're currently stopped. "bt" shows a backtrace of where you're > currently stopped. > If you're not planning to actively debug and just want a stack, i'd use: gst

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 17:39 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > 2009/10/5 Adam Jackson : > > On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 17:13 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > >> The Xserver just keeps running and I get no messages on the second > >> mashine. How to debug it? > > > > I wouldn't expect you to get messages on the second m

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 10/05/2009 08:17 AM, Ray Strode wrote: > Note, plymouth *does* support text once / is mounted. It dynamically > loads the fonts and font renderering libraries, etc, as soon as > they're > needed after they're availabe. So you still get "/home is password > protected" or whatever when /home is

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Joshua C.
2009/10/5 Adam Jackson : > On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 17:13 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: >> I have a problem with my xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.x86_64. I >> read the instructions here >> http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging but >> this didin't help. My Xserver goes in an i

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 17:13 +0200, Joshua C. wrote: > I have a problem with my xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.x86_64. I > read the instructions here > http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging but > this didin't help. My Xserver goes in an infinite loop and starts > consu

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-10-05 Thread Roman Rakus
On 10/05/2009 04:13 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 03:46:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: On 09/29/2009 04:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:56:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Hans de Goede
On 10/04/2009 11:35 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: Dracut currently tries to find and activate all RAID, LVM, and LUKS partitions on the hard disks when booting the LiveCD. Several of my systems are made up of many RAID, LVM, and LUKS partitions in various combinations. Booting the LiveCD now goes a

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-10-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 03:46:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: > On 09/29/2009 04:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:56:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: >> >>> On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: >>

2009-10-01 - Anaconda Storage Rewrite Test Day report

2009-10-05 Thread James Laska
Greetings folks, Many thanks to all who participated in the anaconda test day hosted last Thursday [1]. A decent range of storage scenarios were tested, including various combinations of LVM, RAID and encryption, iSCSI, USB and PowerPC. We had a few new faces helping shake out bugs. Special tha

Re: PPC/PPC64 disabled in Koji for dist-f13

2009-10-05 Thread Roman Rakus
On 09/29/2009 04:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 03:56:52PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: On 09/29/2009 12:31 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 23:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: What do we have to do in order to build on PPC? Does it happen automagicall

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:18:37 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > > Just for my information, do I read this correctly that > > dracut/plymouth is supposed to show a graphical password prompt to > > unlock encrypted partitions at boot time? > Yes, if you have modesetting enabled and get a graphical splas

Re: bodhi question

2009-10-05 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 08:07 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >I noticed that bodhi has an id (FEDORA-2009-10237) for 3.4-17. Is there > >some way to push that to 3.4-18? > > 3.4-18 will get it's own update id when it is pushed. Ok, thanks. Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally sig

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, >> Right, showing an unexpected password dialog at boot with no prompt is >> a serious bug.  It's the bug in dracut I think we need to fix. > > Just for my information, do I read this correctly that dracut/plymouth > is supposed to show a graphical password prompt to unlock encrypted > partiti

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ray Strode wrote: >> There's a reason why plymouth doesn't identify the volume in the initrd. >> Plymouth is graphical and so would need to ship fonts, font >> renderering libraries, and translations in the initrd to display text. >> That'

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:06:48 -0400, Ray Strode wrote: > Right, showing an unexpected password dialog at boot with no prompt is > a serious bug. It's the bug in dracut I think we need to fix. Just for my information, do I read this correctly that dracut/plymouth is supposed to show a graphic

Re: bodhi question

2009-10-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 01:43:35PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: >I've just built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 and pushed it to testing, because >during the security fix in 3.4-17 (which is still in testing), we >accidentally undid the split of drpmsync into a separate subpackage. > >I noticed that bodhi h

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > So I took a look and saw Plymouth with something that > looks like password dialog. He was really surprised that it's asking for > password. At first - really, I think it's dracut bug as I think it was > password > for encrypted device

bodhi question

2009-10-05 Thread Jonathan Dieter
I've just built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 and pushed it to testing, because during the security fix in 3.4-17 (which is still in testing), we accidentally undid the split of drpmsync into a separate subpackage. I noticed that bodhi has an id (FEDORA-2009-10237) for 3.4-17. Is there some way to push th

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-05 Thread Michal Nowak
- "Ilyes Gouta" wrote: > Hi John, > > I updated my Fedora 11 laptop (an old Thinkpad R50e, Pentium-M, w/ > intel 855G integrated graphics), latest Fedora kernel 2.6.30.8-64 and Well, having i855 here too, and frankly, xorg-x11-drv-intel+libdrm+kernel combination at F-11 was really horrible

Re: Help with debuging Xserver / Goes in an infinite loop

2009-10-05 Thread Joshua C.
2009/10/3 Joshua C. : > I have a problem with my xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.6.4-0.1.fc11.x86_64. I > read the instructions here > http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/ServerDebugging but > this didin't help. My Xserver goes in an infinite loop and starts > consuming 100% my cpu. Therefore th

Re: Orphaning cluttermm and clutter-gtkmm

2009-10-05 Thread Denis Leroy
On 10/05/2009 10:05 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote: Are you orphaning them? In that case I am interested in cluttermm as the libchamplainmm bindings that I am writing depend on it. Yup, it's yours if you want it :-) If you take cluttermm, I would recommend that you also take clutter-gtkmm along with i

Re: Orphaning cluttermm and clutter-gtkmm

2009-10-05 Thread Debarshi Ray
Are you orphaning them? In that case I am interested in cluttermm as the libchamplainmm bindings that I am writing depend on it. Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-de

Orphaning cluttermm and clutter-gtkmm

2009-10-05 Thread Denis Leroy
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Re: clutter-cairomm is obsolete and should be retired

2009-10-05 Thread Denis Leroy
On 10/05/2009 09:24 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Denis Leroy wrote: was gone for the week-end. all done. Uh, no, sorry, but you didn't do the retiring correctly: * clutter-cairomm should be marked dead.package in both F-12 and devel. It is not marked dead.package in either, instead you marked clutt

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ray Strode wrote: > There's a reason why plymouth doesn't identify the volume in the initrd. > Plymouth is graphical and so would need to ship fonts, font > renderering libraries, and translations in the initrd to display text. > That's a non-starter. Could we prerender the text on initrd creation

Re: dracut, or should booting a LiveCD touch the hard disk?

2009-10-05 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi Ray, I have to disagree. And why? Becuase of my experience. Few days ago one colleague came to my cubicle and asked me - KDE wants something and I don't know what they want. So I took a look and saw Plymouth with something that looks like password dialog. He was really surprised that it's ask

Re: clutter-cairomm is obsolete and should be retired

2009-10-05 Thread Kevin Kofler
Denis Leroy wrote: > was gone for the week-end. all done. Uh, no, sorry, but you didn't do the retiring correctly: * clutter-cairomm should be marked dead.package in both F-12 and devel. It is not marked dead.package in either, instead you marked cluttermm/devel as dead.package, which I can only

Re: clutter-cairomm is obsolete and should be retired

2009-10-05 Thread Denis Leroy
On 10/04/2009 04:02 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Hi, (I've already mailed this to the maintainer on October 1st, no answer so far.) was gone for the week-end. all done. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list