Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 James Antill wrote: > The problem is that PPAs/KoPeRs are going to get much less testing than > stuff in updates-testing, so if you don't think you are getting enough > testing in updates-testing I really don't see how KoPeRs will solve that > pr

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread James Antill
On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 09:19 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:37 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Then please feel free to make one. :) I don't mean that in a snide > > fashion, but it really is the answer. As noted, having our X.org > > developers spend time on such a repositor

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Dave Airlie
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 09:37 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 14:05 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > No, I don't what to force testing on anyone (although F11 has done > > that > > already :) ) > > I was just suggesting that a separate yum archive with the packages > > necessary

Fedora 12 Final Release Date Rescheduled to 2009-11-17

2009-10-08 Thread John Poelstra
Update from the previous announcement on changes to the Fedora 12 schedule described here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-October/msg3.html The deadline affecting the data center move which was putting a final release date if 2009-11-17 into question has been ext

Plan for tomorrow's (20091008) FESCo meeting

2009-10-08 Thread Jon Stanley
Following are a list of topics to be discussed at tomorrow's FESCo meeting, taking place at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 255 Proposal: Revert "Milestone Adjustment Proposal" 256 yum-presto by default 257 Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification (2009-10-07)

Re: preupgrade from f11 to rawhide broken? python traceback

2009-10-08 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 08:19:28AM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 10:51:36PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "/usr/share/preupgrade/preupgrade-cli.py", line 305, in >

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 19:33 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > Backporting packages is not intrinsically very difficult, though it is > > somewhat time-consuming, so it's something for which a far greater > > candidate pool exists than X driver development. Thus, the suggestion > > that someone else

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 10/08/2009 05:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 14:05 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: No, I don't what to force testing on anyone (although F11 has done that already :) ) I was just suggesting that a separate yum archive with the packages necessary to test the later graphics dev

Re: Easy review swap

2009-10-08 Thread William Cohen
Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527971 > OCaml framework for Functional Reactive Programming (FRP) > > The whole library is a single file, it's rpmlint clean, and there's a > Koji scratch build. > > I'll swap for a similarly easy review. > > Rich. > I co

Re: Bug reporting URL field in packages

2009-10-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 21:00 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > They could hardcode the entire string or use their own macro for it, like > %{_bugurl_myrepo} and provide a macro in their -release package that > provides the macro definition. > > Oh I see, yeah that could work. -- Jesse Keating F

Re: Bug reporting URL field in packages

2009-10-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:29 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: With that, the %{name} part is expanded at build time to effectively the source rpm name, and the rest is up to query-time expansion. The extension could return empty if the macro expansion fails

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 15:15:06 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > The graphics system in F11 is horribly broken for 3D, at least on Intel 845, > ATI 200 and ATI 300 chipsets. Certainly the Blender program will not run > on any of my computers (5 different graphics hardware versions). I was able to

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 14:05:22 +0100, > I was just suggesting that a separate yum archive with the packages necessary > to test the later graphics development code that will be in F12 could be > made available for people to try out easily with their F11 systems. > They can optionally try these. I

Re: FESCo meeting summary for 2009-10-02

2009-10-08 Thread Steve Grubb
On Wednesday 07 October 2009 06:16:50 pm Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 17:11 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote: > > On Friday 02 October 2009 01:56:21 pm Jon Stanley wrote: > > > Meeting summary > > > --- > > > * incomplete features (jds2001, 17:04:12) > > > > > > * AGREED: L

Trying to build jackrabbit

2009-10-08 Thread Orion Poplawski
Trying to build apache jackrabbit 1.6.0 on F12. Getting: + export MAVEN_REPO_LOCAL=/builddir/build/BUILD/jackrabbit-1.6.0/.m2/repository + MAVEN_REPO_LOCAL=/builddir/build/BUILD/jackrabbit-1.6.0/.m2/repository + mkdir -p /builddir/build/BUILD/jackrabbit-1.6.0/.m2/repository + mvn-jpp -Dmaven.

Re: Package updates not replaced by newer package in -testing

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 07:44 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > This is partially my fault -- my network connection hasn't been good for the > last day so instead of clearing with you which Fedora releases had the new > package, I just looked quickly at bodhi and didn't see any obsoletes so I > request

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 14:05 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > No, I don't what to force testing on anyone (although F11 has done > that > already :) ) > I was just suggesting that a separate yum archive with the packages > necessary > to test the later graphics development code that will be in F12 coul

rawhide report: 20091008 changes

2009-10-08 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Oct 8 06:15:12 UTC 2009 Broken deps for ppc64 -- python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot Removed package compat-wxGTK26 Updated Packages: GConf2-2.28.0-2.fc12 -

Re: Bug reporting URL field in packages

2009-10-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:29 +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > With that, the %{name} part is expanded at build time to effectively the > source rpm name, and the rest is up to query-time expansion. The extension > could return empty if the macro expansion fails (ie when _bugurl_os isn't > defined)

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 10:54 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > I would have thought that more people would be likely to try out the graphics > updates if it is easy for them to install on their running systems and use in > their normal usage patterns rather than have to maintain a separate test > syst

Re: Package updates not replaced by newer package in -testing

2009-10-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 05:24:36PM +0300, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > A few days ago, I built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 which resplit off a > subpackage that had accidentally been merged into the main package in > deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11. I pushed -18 into -testing, and assumed (since it > was newer than -17

Re: Package updates not replaced by newer package in -testing

2009-10-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/8 Jonathan Dieter : > A few days ago, I built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 which resplit off a > subpackage that had accidentally been merged into the main package in > deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11.  I pushed -18 into -testing, and assumed (since it > was newer than -17) that -17 wouldn't get pushed to sta

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matej Cepl wrote: > I guess because F11 is considered stable release? I don't know really, > but I would just add a banal observation that every hour spend on > backporting stuff to F11 (and from Adam's answer it seems to require many > many hours) cannot be spent on making Rawhide-soon-to-be-F12 m

Package updates not replaced by newer package in -testing

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Dieter
A few days ago, I built deltarpm-3.4-18.fc11 which resplit off a subpackage that had accidentally been merged into the main package in deltarpm-3.4-17.fc11. I pushed -18 into -testing, and assumed (since it was newer than -17) that -17 wouldn't get pushed to stable automatically. Now I've just re

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 10/08/2009 01:51 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 10:54:54 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: Are you confident that F12 will make 3D usable under Linux on the majority of mainstream graphics cards ? It's not going to provide 3d for nvidia, though it is hoped that nouveau wil

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 10:54:54 +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Are you confident that F12 will make 3D usable under Linux on the majority of > mainstream graphics cards ? It's not going to provide 3d for nvidia, though it is hoped that nouveau will be somewhat improved. Intel and all much of AT

Easy review swap

2009-10-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527971 OCaml framework for Functional Reactive Programming (FRP) The whole library is a single file, it's rpmlint clean, and there's a Koji scratch build. I'll swap for a similarly easy review. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 10:54:54AM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: >>> It would be good to have a Linux system that could actually to 3D with the >>> major applications by the end of 2009 ! >> >> Fortunately, F-12 is scheduled for release by then! >> >> josh >> > Are you confident that F12 will make 3D

Retiring gai, gai-temp, gai-pal

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
The current thread on "ksensors, id3lib" has reminded me to give gnome-applet-sensors another try right now. In F11. It works for me while that hasn't been true before (troubles with acpi thrm or no sensors). As a result, I'd like to retire GAI (General Applet Interface Library) and two of the app

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 10/07/2009 03:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 03:15:06PM +0100, Terry Barnaby wrote: A new release of drm/mesa/xf86-video-ati/Xserver code for F11 based on the new 1.7 XServer and 7.6 mesa would be very useful. No, not really. I understand that changing the Graphics syste

Re: TeXLive 2009 autoprovides/autorequires

2009-10-08 Thread Jindrich Novy
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 01:20:02AM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Hi, > > I upgraded to F12 recently and enabled the TeXLive 2009 > packages. One thing that the massive split has created is that > package dependencies are not made at all. I had

Re: Retiring ksensors, possibly id3lib as well?

2009-10-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:04:35 -0700, Conrad wrote: > On Wednesday 07 October 2009 12:55:10 pm Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: > > On 10/07/2009 03:19 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > > > Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: > > >> Is there valid, logical, reasoning to continue to support such old code? > > > > > > Are t

Re: Retiring ksensors, possibly id3lib as well?

2009-10-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
2009/10/8 Kevin Kofler : > Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote: >> However... have you considered trying  gnome-applet-sensors? > > gnome-applet-* doesn't work under KDE, that stuff only works in gnome-panel. > >> It seems odd to continue such a package despite upstream being defunct. >> >> As I no longer us

Re: Bug reporting URL field in packages

2009-10-08 Thread Panu Matilainen
On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, Jon Masters wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 10:43 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: So I guess the real question is do we want our packages built in koji to assume a bug URL of fedora, even when used in downstream projects? I think that's a giant assumption - if the maintainer did

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Mail Lists, Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:26:08 -0400: > I dont have this hardware - but just a question - why not just upgrade > to upstream (2.6.32 would be nice in a couple of days ... ) ? I guess because F11 is considered stable release? I don't know really, but I would just add a banal observation t