Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Dejavu has matured a lot so new releases are incremental improvements with
> no big feature changes.
... i.e. exactly the kind of things which should be pushed as updates!
> Not worth it pushing updated packages for previous releases (that will be
> installed by pretty mu
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 03:28 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote:
> I didnt say i find profanity not offensive; also, i strongly agree
> with your
> point (*when* wouldnt profanity be considered gratuitous?).
>
> My question was, would you call that patch a "bugfix", or
> "enhancement"?
> Or it is just li
On 10/17/2009 06:58 AM, Guido Grazioli wrote:
> My question was, would you call that patch a "bugfix", or "enhancement"?
> Or it is just like the beep over a bad word on tv, and by all means you can
> do that thanks to gpl?
In this case, since the wording has already been fixed upstream, it
woul
2009/10/17 Adam Williamson
> On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:09 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote:
> > Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this
> > case?
> > If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that.
> >
> > That string is more stupid than offensive; and the esc
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 19:17:13 +0200,
Jochen Schmitt wrote:
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> Am 15.10.2009 17:51, schrieb chasd:
> >
> >> Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing
> >> the upgrade.
> >
> Yes, but you should make the dump with the du
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:51:20 -0500,
chasd wrote:
>
> Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>
> >Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing
> >the upgrade.
>
> OK, maybe that isn't a good example then.
>
> However, using your comment, and turning my idea around, if
> PostgreSQL isn
On Sat, 2009-10-17 at 01:09 +0200, Guido Grazioli wrote:
> Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this
> case?
> If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that.
>
> That string is more stupid than offensive; and the escalation found
There are people who fin
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:48:38 +1000,
Dave Airlie wrote:
>
> 2 months is too long for user apps maybe, for X.org or Mesa from what I
> can see for ever probably isn't long enough, its not a matter of how
> much time something spends in updates-testing its a matter of how many
> people run wha
Is GPL really a way to freely censor a developer work, as in this case?
If it were closed source, you wouldn't had the right to do that.
That string is more stupid than offensive; and the escalation found here,
starting from the word fuck to things like sexism, racism and tolerance
probably was mo
Just to make it clear, I just don't care about gnaughty presence or not
in repositories. I'm not a Debian freak, you know :)
I'm just worried that we might burden package maintainers with
additional, boring and mostly useless censorship tasks. First, optional,
then mandatory.
Erm, if we were to t
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> * I volunteered to make the patch if the maintainer didn't want to do it.
> (And then perhaps I can talk the reporter into submitting hte patch
> upstream for me ;-) So this takes part of the time burden away.
You might not even have to. I think, from only a little po
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:29:46PM +0200, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
> Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :
> > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
> >> I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
> >>
> >> (Check Box) F*** off
> >>
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 08:57:55PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Till Maas wrote:
> > I looked into packaging the nesc compiler
> > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the
> > deprecated intel license for some java files:
> >
> http://nescc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc
2009/10/16 Haïkel Guémar :
> Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :
>> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
>>> I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
>>>
>>> (Check Box) F*** off
>
> I recently came accross Gnaughty (aka Fas
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Haïkel Guémar wrote:
>
>
> It's not really that offensive (sexist, racist, homophobic etc...), it's
> not installed by default so it won't hurt our image. Anyone offended
> should go complain to upstream, Fedora maintainers have no time to waste
> on such petty is
Le 16/10/2009 19:19, Toshio Kuratomi a écrit :
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
>> I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
>>
>> (Check Box) F*** off
>>
>> No lie,
>>
>> So how does one recommend that this be removed.
>>
> Wha
Le Ven 16 octobre 2009 20:39, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
> For example, I find it sad you switched to fire-and-forget "maintenance" for
> dejavu-fonts. The monthly updates were a good thing, they rarely if ever
> caused any problems and they improved font coverage.
Dejavu has matured a lot so new r
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Steven James Drinnan wrote:
But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with
software vendors that use this type of language?
Why the fuck would we not? Is there something fucking wrong with the word
"fuck"? Let's just fucking
Steven James Drinnan wrote:
> But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with
> software vendors that use this type of language?
Why the fuck would we not? Is there something fucking wrong with the word
"fuck"? Let's just fucking stop this fucking "politically correct" no
Till Maas wrote:
> I looked into packaging the nesc compiler
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the
> deprecated intel license for some java files:
>
http://nescc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nescc/nesc/COPYRIGHT?revision=1.2&view=markup
> http://nescc.cvs.sourcefo
Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
> I've updated the wording there to clarify that no Fedora package may use
> anything under a "Bad" License.
Now what's the benefit of banning licenses just for being "deprecated"?
I really don't see what's wrong with:
http://opensource.org/licenses/intel-open-source-li
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Well, I do remember spending hours switching from kmail to thunderbird
> in the past because a KDE update in Fedora broke IMAP support and it
> stayed broken for quite sometime.
There have indeed been a few KMail regressions (especially with IMAP) which
slipped through, bo
Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> They won't sit in forever, at worst they'll be pushed to users with the
> next Fedora release (that will have been tested properly during beta)
That's what I mean by "forever". It's "forever" as far as that one release
is concerned.
> No. It's *our* loss if we needlessly
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:58:16AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
> On 10/15/2009 10:02 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> > Hiyas,
> >
> > I looked into packaging the nesc compiler
> > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the
> > deprecated intel license for some java files:
>
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 12:58:39PM +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
> I recently installed gestikk. And to my horror one of the dialogs said.
>
> (Check Box) F*** off
>
> No lie,
>
> So how does one recommend that this be removed.
>
What we'll probably do is patch the code to have a less ob
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 11:53 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> * How long do we give the user to test the software? Wait until the
> software is run for the first time? The third time?
I don't think you can determine that. What if it's not something that
gets 'run' at all, also?
I'm thinking, bizarr
Just a note to say that I'm going to retire the package
ocaml-camlimages and ask it to be removed from Fedora.
Reasons:
(a) Series of security problems have arisen with the C code
for loading images[1].
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-2295
http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cven
Steven James Drinnan (ste...@scc.hk) said:
> I will file a ticket.
>
> But my point was the image of Fedora.Does Fedora want be associated with
> software vendors that use this type of language?
There are worse things in the package collection, alas, depending on your
point of view.
In any cas
Rawhide Report (rawh...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> sugar-toolkit-0.86.1-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json
This was a tagging mixup. It will be fixed.
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Richard Hughes gmail.com> writes:
> Anyway, by PackageKit we really mean kpackagekit and gnome-packagekit,
> as the PackageKit bits are already usable, e.g.
>
> * Enable this testing repo
> * Get the updates from this repo
> * Install them
> * Wait a week
> * Ask user for feedback, and point the
On 10/15/2009 10:02 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> Hiyas,
>
> I looked into packaging the nesc compiler
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the
> deprecated intel license for some java files:
> http://nescc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nescc/nesc/COPYRIGHT?revision=1.2&view
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Hi,
I'd like to remove icqnd (the gtk gui for licq) from licq package. It's
unmaintained for a few years and I think there are better gtk clients
for icq so it doesn't worth the effort of maintaining it and make it
compile with the latest licq. So if anyone has some arguments why to
keep it th
2009/10/16 Ankur Sinha :
> Richard, I'd like to take this up. What do I need to know/learn?
> btw, I'm a sort of a newbie at application development though.
Well, the application development is perhaps 10% of the problem. 90%
of the problem is identifying the core problem, working out how users
ar
On 10/16/2009 04:12 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> Couldn't you hook this into PackageKit and leave it disabled by default?
>
> Well, in one sense it's entirely fedora specific (updates testing
> repos, bohdi, and koji) and in other ways it's a problem all the
> distros are facing, in that test upd
2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram :
> Couldn't you hook this into PackageKit and leave it disabled by default?
Well, in one sense it's entirely fedora specific (updates testing
repos, bohdi, and koji) and in other ways it's a problem all the
distros are facing, in that test updates get little to no covera
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 01:10:09PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> 2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram :
> > On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> >
> >> You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of
> >> aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather than in dark
> >
>
> It would however, be a great google summer of code project, which I
> would be prepared to mentor.
>
> Richard.
>
Richard, I'd like to take this up. What do I need to know/learn?
btw, I'm a sort of a newbie at application development though.
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On 10/16/2009 03:07 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
>> It has been suggested before. At one point, Richard Hughes pitched it in
>> the packagekit list and they didn't like it and so he wanted to write a
>> separate app but nothing has come out of it so far.
>
> Yes, I think it makes a lot of sense to w
2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram :
> It has been suggested before. At one point, Richard Hughes pitched it in
> the packagekit list and they didn't like it and so he wanted to write a
> separate app but nothing has come out of it so far.
Yes, I think it makes a lot of sense to write something like this,
On 10/15/2009 03:23 PM, Benny Amorsen wrote:
> Jesse Keating writes:
>
>> And that's a people problem more than a process problem. If nobody
>> tests it in updates-testing, then how is the maintainer to know that it
>> is problematic? Certainly not solvable with even more repos for testing
>> c
On 10/15/2009 07:32 PM, Till Maas wrote:
> Hiyas,
>
> I looked into packaging the nesc compiler
> (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the
> deprecated intel license for some java files:
> http://nescc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nescc/nesc/COPYRIGHT?revision=1.2&view
On 10/16/2009 02:40 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Civil and decent behavior is to be tolerant to others, right? So,
> please, be tolerant to sexists/racists/-ists.
Quite the opposite. You are really confused about what being civil and
decent actually means. If someone is being sexist or racist towa
2009/10/16 Rahul Sundaram :
> On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
>
>> You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of
>> aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather than in dark
>> ages of censorship, brainwashing and hypocrisy.
> You seem to be equating
On 10/16/2009 02:29 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> You see, I personally prefer to live in the society with some level of
> aggressively thinking and speaking minorities, rather than in dark
> ages of censorship, brainwashing and hypocrisy.
You seem to be equating "aggressive thinking" with sexism a
2009/10/16 Till Maas :
> You may also want to think about whether you really find it great that
> there's sexism on the internet, because you might have confused it with
> sexual content.
No, I meant sexism. I thought, that sexism is modern trend nowadays,
since almost every OSS-related rss-feed
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:48:24AM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Please, disconnect yourself from the Internet asap, because it's full
> of obscene videos, jokes, sexism and so on. And that's great!
Even if something is on the internet, this does not meant that it has a
place within the Fedora C
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 14:03 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/16/2009 12:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > I should've clarified that as far as new packages go, I don't see a
> > problem with just pushing them to stable after a few days in -testing as
> > long as no-one complains. It's quite
On 10/16/2009 05:24 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matěj Cepl wrote:
>> Yes, I know, that's opinion of people around KDE that they don't
>> distinguish between Rawhide and updates-testing
>
> That's not true. In KDE SIG:
> * we do not push KDE prereleases to updates-testing (nor to the stable
> update
Le Ven 16 octobre 2009 07:18, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
>
> On 10/16/2009 05:14 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Orion Poplawski wrote:
>>> Can someone shed light on the status of geronimo in Fedora? Seems like
>>> it hasn't managed to build since F11 - and the F11 build was never
>>> pushed. There is
On 10/16/2009 12:34 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> I should've clarified that as far as new packages go, I don't see a
> problem with just pushing them to stable after a few days in -testing as
> long as no-one complains. It's quite hard for a new package to *break*
> something on a currently-workin
Le Ven 16 octobre 2009 01:49, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
>
> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>> Please do not ever push untested work to stable just because no one
>> complained. If you want testing on older releases you can push it to
>> testing but please don't ever promote it.
>
> Sorry, letting updates si
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