Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread John Reiser
I'm not sure I understand. How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C? See /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 and its symbols, such as stack unwinding, uncommon or messy conversions between data formats, expensive operations on 'long long', etc. -- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-lis

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 23:38:31 -0400, Jud Craft wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram > wrote: > > Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging > > stuff enabled. > > I really can't tell if you're joking. I think that is an exageration. But at vari

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the > native ones. I'm not sure I understand. How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C? I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or symbol or virtual table

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging > stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-deve

Re: idea: abrt plugin for yum rpm scriptlets output

2009-10-25 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009, Rudolf Kastl wrote: Hello! While doing some tests and installing a large part of the rawhide repository content i see that there are various packages that have a broken %post scriptlet or it is outputting some warnings. maybe it would be an idea for a abrt-yum plugin to s

Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Dave Jones
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:48:03AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Hi, > > /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a > make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to > invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut. Is that intentional? > > Also, any ideas on

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-25 Thread Milos Jakubicek
Next bunch built, it's a complete set of those with mock exit status 30 (I'm curious what does this exit status mean, missing prerequisity is denoted by 10) and some others too: piggyback-2.6.26-4.fc12 (on sparc) perl-Perl-Critic-1.105-1.fc12 glglobe-0.2-8.fc12 libica-2.0.2-1.fc12 (on s390) ope

Recap: blocker bug review meeting 2009-10-23

2009-10-25 Thread Adam Williamson
We held the first official blocker bug review meeting for Fedora 12 final release on Friday, 2009-10-23. Many thanks to James Laska, Jesse Keating, Ray Strode, Matej Cepl, Denise Dumas, Justin Forbes, Bill Nottingham, Edward Kirk, and Matthias Clasen for their contributions. We ran through all 51

Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Matt Domsch
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:48:03AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Hi, > > /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a > make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to > invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut. Is that intentional? Don't know if it's intentional

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2009 22:59, Kevin Kofler a écrit : > > It's also a good reflex to support all branches with updates, especially > bugfix updates (and I wish more people would do it), but again, only if > there's a reason to push the update in the first place. :-) > > Kevin Kofler > they were

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:39:56 +0100, Haïkel wrote: > This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one > python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about : > an unexperienced developer including it in his "multiplatform" project. > Then, he shares it with

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Haïkel Guémar wrote: > This was a very very low priority task for me, python-mpd is roughly one > python file mpd.py. There was only one use-case, i could think about : > an unexperienced developer including it in his "multiplatform" project. People bundling system libraries deserve whatever they

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Haïkel Guémar wrote: > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, This makes sense in principle, but not if nothing (of relevance to Fedora) actually changed. > Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to > support branches until EOL and it

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > And once again, the bodhi update requests for these updates don't try to > explain what changes come with these updates. They are only marked as "bug > fix" updates with no notes that give details. Right, we really need some enforcement against this practice. I have no i

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves wrote: > Then you get bug from people expecting the latest version because you're > not up to date... That's what NOTABUG is for. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
King InuYasha wrote: > Also, clang's support with C++ ABI is still very broken. It's listed under > known issues. Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the native ones. The real problem is that C++ support in Clang is just not complete. You may have more luck with

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2009 22:20, Christoph Wickert a écrit : > Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > >> This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, >> since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. >> Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maint

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:28:58 +0100, Pierre-Yves wrote: > Then you get bug from people expecting the latest version because you're > not up to date... Ridiculous. It's easy to close such tickets as NOTABUG and explain to such people why an update doesn't make sense. -- fedora-devel-list mailing

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:20:59 +0100, Christoph wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > > > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, > > since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. > > Why i pushed the update on older branches

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:28 +0100, Pierre-Yves wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:20 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > > > > > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, > > > since it wasn't critical

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 22:20 +0100, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > > > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, > > since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. > > Why i pushed the update on older b

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 25.10.2009, 20:56 +0100 schrieb Haïkel Guémar: > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, > since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. > Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to > support branches until EOL and it

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Haïkel Guémar wrote: > This is personal policy to always push latest stable unless it's broken, > since it wasn't critical, i had always delayed it. > Why i pushed the update on older branches ? Maintainers are asked to > support branches until EOL and it worked on my test VM. > Maybe, i'm just a b

Re: texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-25 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2009/10/25 Neal Becker : > I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF, > so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work?  Or, should texlive > just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version? IMO the latter. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-deve

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Haïkel Guémar
Le 25/10/2009 17:53, Todd Zullinger a écrit : > I wrote: >> Hi Haïkel, >> >> Haïkel Guémar wrote: >>> Author: hguemar >>> >>> Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/python-mpd/F-10 >>> In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27941 >>> >>> Modified Files: >>> python-mpd.spec sources >>> Log Mes

texlive 2009 - should set TEXMFCNF?

2009-10-25 Thread Neal Becker
I wonder if texlive should include a /etc/profile.d package to set TEXMFCNF, so that other packages, such as xdvipdfmx will work? Or, should texlive just obsolete xdvipdfmx and include it's own version? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailm

Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe

2009-10-25 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 25.10.2009 08:18, David Timms wrote: On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong. It seems that the build logs are no longer available ? No, they are kept only for 14(?) days or so. Shou

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/25/2009 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in >> this release >> >> http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html >> >> Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread King InuYasha
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in > > this release > > > > > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html > > > > Has anyone been looking into build

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in > this release > > http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html > > Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the > performance impact is? A lot of

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
I wrote: > Hi Haïkel, > > Haïkel Guémar wrote: >> Author: hguemar >> >> Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/python-mpd/F-10 >> In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27941 >> >> Modified Files: >> python-mpd.spec sources >> Log Message: >> Updated to 0.2.1 > > Any reason to update this fo

Re: rpms/python-mpd/F-10 python-mpd.spec,1.2,1.3 sources,1.2,1.3

2009-10-25 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi Haïkel, Haïkel Guémar wrote: > Author: hguemar > > Update of /cvs/extras/rpms/python-mpd/F-10 > In directory cvs1.fedora.phx.redhat.com:/tmp/cvs-serv27941 > > Modified Files: > python-mpd.spec sources > Log Message: > Updated to 0.2.1 Any reason to update this for F-10 (or any Fedora bra

Re: Rawhide install nfs fails

2009-10-25 Thread M A Young
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009, Mike Chambers wrote: I mirror rawhide on a F11 box, that I normally nfs mount from a rawhide running system. Tried to do an nfs based install from rawhide 2 days ago and it failed, but installing via http from outside source (I don't have http setup on the box) worked. So I

Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi LLVM 2.6 has been announced with Clang declared as production quality in this release http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvm-announce/2009-October/33.html Has anyone been looking into building Fedora with it to see how the performance impact is? Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

Re: Should installkernel be passing --dracut to new-kernel-pkg?

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/22/2009 06:18 PM, Stephen Smalley wrote: > Hi, > > /sbin/installkernel doesn't pass --dracut to /sbin/new-kernel-pkg, so a > make install from a kernel.org kernel tree tries to > invoke /sbin/mkinitrd rather than dracut. Is that intentional? > > Also, any ideas on why a dracut-generated in

Re: OpenSER / Kamailio

2009-10-25 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! 2009/10/25 Felix Kaechele : > Hi there, > I'm just starting to play with my SIP Phones using OpenSER. > I was wondering why there have been no updates to the OpenSER package > since it was renamed to Kamailio in version 1.4.0? There are plans to package sip-router, when it will reach s

rawhide report: 20091025 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Oct 25 06:15:11 UTC 2009 Broken deps for ppc64 -- python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 0 -- fedora-deve

OpenSER / Kamailio

2009-10-25 Thread Felix Kaechele
Hi there, I'm just starting to play with my SIP Phones using OpenSER. I was wondering why there have been no updates to the OpenSER package since it was renamed to Kamailio in version 1.4.0? I did however notice that version 1.4.0 in fact is of an earlier date than version 1.3.4 (which still is nam

Re: rawhide report: 20091024 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Denis Leroy
On 10/25/2009 09:49 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rawhide Report wrote: nickle-2.69-2.fc12 -- * Fri Oct 23 2009 Michel Salim - 2.69-2 - Lower FORTIFY setting; level 2 does not work with gcc 4.4.2 That's a completely WRONG fix!!! You MUST fix the application instead. Disabling securi

Re: rawhide report: 20091024 changes

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rawhide Report wrote: > nickle-2.69-2.fc12 > -- > * Fri Oct 23 2009 Michel Salim - 2.69-2 > - Lower FORTIFY setting; level 2 does not work with gcc 4.4.2 That's a completely WRONG fix!!! You MUST fix the application instead. Disabling security flags can't be the right approach to

Re: orphaning (eol) gtk-qt-engine

2009-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > By the way, colours on old kde3 apps doesn't work, > either, despite enabling for non-kde4 applications in > system settings (kftpgrabber) - I can see it already: > file a bug report :-) There's already an ages-old bug report, the upstream KDE developers don't care.

Re: the mass rebuild and i586 rpms?

2009-10-25 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 02:37:57AM +0200, Milos Jakubicek wrote: > > Newpackage (some of them even for months!): > python-decorator3 Please do not rebuild this one. It's currently just a forwards compat package for EL-5. I'll dead.package the devel package soon. > zikula-module-filterutil > Ple

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 10/24/2009 06:17 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote: > Hi, > > Was Fedora 12 Beta released with all sort of debugging info. compiled in? > I just want to find the cause of the general slowness .. Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled. Rahul -- fedora-devel-li

Re: mass rebuild and i586 rpms - glglobe

2009-10-25 Thread David Timms
On 10/20/2009 08:48 PM, Milos Jakubicek wrote: http://mjakubicek.fedorapeople.org/need-rebuild.html hmmn, glglobe is mine, wonder what went wrong. It seems that the build logs are no longer available ? https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1504772 eg for: x86_64 (red) https://koj