On 09-11-02 13:07:09, Dan Williams wrote:
> oldworld topped out at 366MHz anyway right? (the 333 and 366 Beige
> G3 were only sold from 1998-08-12 -> 1999-01-01 too) That's pretty
> much the minimum you'd need to run Fedora anyway these days... Not
> sure it's really worth it, you'll need at
2009/11/3 Jud Craft
> I hope so. I'm not sure anything can top Fedora 8. Hard to explain
> how much I enjoyed that distribution.
>
mmh, the Gnome Desktop Live CD of F12 is really more gnomish since the CDs
before.
No qt, no openoffice, abiword
gnumeric is still missing and epiphany should repla
> @Judd, wait for the F12 release, it's the best 'update' and it is not ready
> yet!
I hope so. I'm not sure anything can top Fedora 8. Hard to explain
how much I enjoyed that distribution.
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2009/11/2 Matthias Clasen
> We don't do jumps to the next major GNOME version within a released
> Fedora, that would be incompatible with our understanding of a released
> product.
>
I hope the KDE-sig will take up this stance on her own releasecycles.
@Judd, wait for the F12 release, it's the be
Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package
review" components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 1st Nov were
Mamoru Tasaka, Thomas Spura and Peter Lemenkov.
Mamoru Tasaka : 3
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=509936
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s
Some Linux distros has migrated from grub-0.97 to grub2-1.97. Grub2 provides
more useful features to users. And it is more easy to add a new file system
support. But I can not see Fedora has any plan for GRUB2. I read a feature
page on Fedora wiki. There is no progress on grub2.
Now Fedora offici
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 23:08 -0500, Jon Stanley wrote:
> * legally objectionable, binary and non-free items (jds2001,
> 17:33:34)
> * AGREED: spot's proposal is accpeted. (jds2001, 17:47:00)
Not the _best_ example of good meeting summary practice I've ever seen
=)
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On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 02:06 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 01:21 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > Bastien Nocera wrote:
> >
> > > I guess it wasn't good enough for you to get booted out of the GNOME
> > > Bugzilla?
> >
> > Well, there are always some bad guys who don't lik
Oops, I forgot to send this on Friday - sorry!
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCo meeting 20091030
===
Meeting started by jds2001 at 17:00:16 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-1
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 01:21 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
> > I guess it wasn't good enough for you to get booted out of the GNOME
> > Bugzilla?
>
> Well, there are always some bad guys who don't like to see people who help
> users.
>
> The person from the GNOME projec
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Joerg Schilling <
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
> >That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
> >vacuous truth. The solution is obviously to fix the bug and help revive
> >upstream, or else host a development tree on fh if up
W dniu 03.11.2009 00:19, Tom "spot" Callaway pisze:
> On 11/02/2009 03:47 PM, Denis Leroy wrote:
>> On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>> That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
>>> vacuous truth.
>>
>> Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL
Joerg Schilling wrote:
> It is cdrkit that is undistributable as it is cdrkit that in conflict with
> the Copyright law and the GPL.
Maybe under your reality distortion field. In the rest of the world, that's
just not true.
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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> why Redhat started to distribute the proken fork instead of the original
> software.
The only thing that's "proken" (sic) is your spelling.
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On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 07:26:31PM -0500, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> /usr/include/gnu/stubs.h:7:27: error: gnu/stubs-32.h: No such file or
> directory
That means you don't have glibc-devel installed for the arch you need, on
ppc you likely have installed glibc-devel.ppc64 but need also
glibc-devel.p
On 11/02/2009 05:34 PM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 05:15:50PM -0500, Bryan Kearney wrote:
Word of warning.. I am no too familiar with C across platforms. I am
trying to package ruby-ffi (spec file is at [1]) and when I do a scratch
build in Koji [2] it runs fine on x86 but is
Bastien Nocera wrote:
> I guess it wasn't good enough for you to get booted out of the GNOME
> Bugzilla?
Well, there are always some bad guys who don't like to see people who help
users.
The person from the GNOME project just verified that he attacks people who are
helpful. He does not seem to
Hey Joerg,
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 00:21 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> >I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
> >browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
>
> >"wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
> >expect to see
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 14:23 -0500, Steve Dickson wrote:
> I'm not sure about this... Actually I like the fact we can define a
> pseudo root other than '/'... which means you really want a live exported
> directory with the fsid=0 option... If I am understanding what you are
> saying...
No, that
>That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
>vacuous truth. The solution is obviously to fix the bug and help revive
>upstream, or else host a development tree on fh if upstream stays idle.
Note that is is just the other way:
It is cdrkit that is undistributable as it i
>On the other hand trying to build Jörg's stuff isn't easy on Fedora. And
>might not even work as he likes to use a interface that was depreciated
>a while back for talking to the cd/dvd drives.
I would guess that you are not informed correctly.
My software easily compiles on more than 30 differe
On 11/02/2009 04:26 PM, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote:
> I did even contact Mr. Chuck Bigelow to find out any
> possibility of licensing Luxi fonts under an open source license, when
> Fedora decided to drop them.
For what it is worth, when we dropped them, I contacted the upstream
copyright holder as w
>I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
>browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
>"wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
>expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
>continues to distribute wodim instea
On 11/02/2009 03:47 PM, Denis Leroy wrote:
> On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
>> vacuous truth.
>
> Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was
> there another reason ? Last I checked, only
On 11/02/2009 05:23 AM, Liang Suilong wrote:
> Thank you for hard work. Crhomium browser in Fedora 12 looks perfect. Is
> there any plan to push chromium into rawhide or updates-testing. I think
> chromium has enough stability to make more users test itself.
Not until Chromium comes out of beta a
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 05:15:50PM -0500, Bryan Kearney wrote:
> Word of warning.. I am no too familiar with C across platforms. I am
> trying to package ruby-ffi (spec file is at [1]) and when I do a scratch
> build in Koji [2] it runs fine on x86 but is failing in ppc_64. It
> appears that
Word of warning.. I am no too familiar with C across platforms. I am
trying to package ruby-ffi (spec file is at [1]) and when I do a scratch
build in Koji [2] it runs fine on x86 but is failing in ppc_64. It
appears that __WORDSIZE is not being set [3]. I looked at the CFLags for
the x86_64 a
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:44 -0500, Jud Craft wrote:
> This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious.
>
> Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are
> updates in the works, just not ready yet?
We've updated GNOME in F11 to 2.26.3.
We don't d
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Jud Craft wrote:
> This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious.
>
> Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are
> updates in the works, just not ready yet?
>
Normally, the GNOME team normally stays with the sa
This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious.
Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are
updates in the works, just not ready yet?
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On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 21:47:47 +0100,
Denis Leroy wrote:
> On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> >That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
> >vacuous truth.
>
> Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or
> was there another reason ? L
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 14:00 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>> > And why the hell are you still using Luxi Mono, anyway? that thing went
>> > out with the ark...
>>
>> I'm not the person you are posing your questio
> > > Hello, I have built a new release of cpl (an astronomical data
> > > processing library) in koji. In rawhide, I get an (incorrect)
> > > dependency on libcfitsio.so
> > >
> > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=1637146
> > >
> > > where as in fc12 I get the correct dependency
David Woodhouse writes:
> My crystal ball isn't working today, so I _couldn't_ help you, even if I
> _didn't_ have a policy of not helping thread-hijackers until they post
> their problem politely ;)
Oh, I guess it's time to consider installing a RAICB, a Redundant Array
of Inexpensive Crystal B
On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty
vacuous truth.
Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was
there another reason ? Last I checked, only mkisofs is affected by that
and the rest of cdrecor
On 11/2/09 1:07 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 12:18 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
...
Does Fedora PPC work or install on
Steve Dickson writes:
> [...]
> With Build http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1783028
> the mount command will first try to do a v4 mount and then fall back
> to v3/v2 mounts if v4 is not support. This fall back will also happen
> if the server returns ENOENT, which will be the
Le Lun 2 novembre 2009 18:36, Roberto Ragusa a écrit :
> I've never said that Luxi fonts are better than DejaVu fonts.
> What I've said is that there is no alternative to Luxi Mono
> if one wants a serif monospaced font.
> I like to have a serif font in my shell; I find it more readable,
> even
On 10/26/2009 10:34 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
> [With the next nfs-utils rawhide build, I will be flipping the ]
> [switch that will cause all NFS client mounts to try NFS v4 first ]
> [At the bottom of this email has the workarounds if this change does ]
> [indeed cause pain ]
>
> As part of the h
On 11/02/2009 10:41 AM, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On 10/29/2009 11:17 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 10/28/2009 03:05 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
>>> It sounds like you are saying that there is no way to export the same
>>> host filesystems with the same client-perceived names under v4 as was
>>> b
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 18:16 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> Dne 2.11.2009 17:31, Kevin Kofler napsal:
>> > Ankur Sinha wrote:
>> >> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
>> >> expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long a
On 11/02/2009 03:19 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Jörg seems to be watching for bug reports related to wodim and comments
on them whenever someone new adds something.
Same applies to brasero and cdrdao.
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On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 18:16 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> Dne 2.11.2009 17:31, Kevin Kofler napsal:
> > Ankur Sinha wrote:
> >> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
> >> expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
> >> continues to distribute wodim instead of the
W dniu 02.11.2009 18:16, Michal Schmidt pisze:
> Dne 2.11.2009 17:31, Kevin Kofler napsal:
>> Ankur Sinha wrote:
>>> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
>>> expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
>>> continues to distribute wodim instead of the original softw
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 12:18 +, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 22:25 -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
> > On 09-10-28 18:24:49, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 06:17:31PM -0400, Tony Nelson wrote:
> > > >Sorry to bug developers, but I didn't get any bites from PPC
> > >
On 2009/11/02 08:48 (GMT-0800) Adam Williamson composed:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 14:00 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > And why the hell are you still using Luxi Mono, anyway? that thing went
>> > out with the ark...
>> I'm not the person you are posing your question
> > Hello, I have built a new release of cpl (an astronomical data
> > processing library) in koji. In rawhide, I get an (incorrect)
> > dependency on libcfitsio.so
> >
> > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=1637146
> >
> > where as in fc12 I get the correct dependency on libcfitsio.
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 18:36 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> I've never said that Luxi fonts are better than DejaVu fonts.
> What I've said is that there is no alternative to Luxi Mono
> if one wants a serif monospaced font.
> I like to have a serif font in my shell; I find it more readable,
> even
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 14:00 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>>
>>> And why the hell are you still using Luxi Mono, anyway? that thing went
>>> out with the ark...
>> I'm not the person you are posing your question to, but I use Luxi Mono
>> and can gi
Dne 2.11.2009 17:31, Kevin Kofler napsal:
Ankur Sinha wrote:
"wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
continues to distribute wodim instead of the original software."
Can someone please clear this up?
It's just the usua
Folks,
Boost 1.41 is going into Beta now. Can we please get boost caught-up to current
release for FC13?
Thanks,
Joel
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On 11/02/2009 09:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 09:36 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
Hello,
So this isn't a strictly development question, but based on the
answer it very well could be. I don't use evolution, but the
evolution-data-server is running. Is it used for
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 09:36 -0700, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Hello,
>
> So this isn't a strictly development question, but based on the
> answer it very well could be. I don't use evolution, but the
> evolution-data-server is running. Is it used for anything else? If not,
> perhaps it wo
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 14:00 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > And why the hell are you still using Luxi Mono, anyway? that thing went
> > out with the ark...
>
> I'm not the person you are posing your question to, but I use Luxi Mono
> and can give you an answer:
> "Beca
Hello,
So this isn't a strictly development question, but based on the
answer it very well could be. I don't use evolution, but the
evolution-data-server is running. Is it used for anything else? If not,
perhaps it would be good to not run it as part of the gnome session when
the users def
Ankur Sinha wrote:
> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
> expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
> continues to distribute wodim instead of the original software."
>
> Can someone please clear this up?
It's just the usual FUD from Jörg Schilling. Ignore it
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Mamoru Tasaka
wrote:
> Jeffrey Ollie wrote, at 10/21/2009 01:53 AM +9:00:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to build the latest Asterisk sounds package, but I'm
>>> getting the following error:
>>>
>>> error: Recognitio
On 10/29/2009 11:17 AM, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
>
> On 10/28/2009 03:05 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
>> It sounds like you are saying that there is no way to export the same
>> host filesystems with the same client-perceived names under v4 as was
>> being done before under v[23]. Is that really true
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 08:49 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:43:30 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
> >
> > Strictly, this is not true. Newer binutils has a feature called
> > "indirect functions" that lets you do (logically, this is not what the
> > syntax actually looks lik
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:43:30 -0500,
Adam Jackson wrote:
>
> Strictly, this is not true. Newer binutils has a feature called
> "indirect functions" that lets you do (logically, this is not what the
> syntax actually looks like):
Can you point us to some documentation on this?
Is this some
On Sat, 2009-10-31 at 09:25 +0100, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> 2009/10/31 Bruno Wolff III :
> > I am working on packaging pagedgeometry and I noticed that when building
> > on gcc it passes -msse which I am guessing says to use sse instructions.
> > I think that even in F12 we can't assume these instr
Dne 31.10.2009 12:51, Christoph Höger napsal(a):
Just one question: How are the lm_sensors names (10h, 11h) related to
current processors? 11h seems to be WIP.
AMD codename "K10" refers to family 10h CPUs (Phenom, Phenom II). You
can see your cpu family in /proc/cpuinfo. It's decimal there, so
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 15:59:07 +0530,
Ankur Sinha wrote:
> hi,
>
> I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
> browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
>
> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
> expect to see an
alekc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all.
I want to add to comps.xml for F10-F13 some optional packages which I not
own.
To kde-desktop group:
kde-plasma-quickaccess
kde-plasma-runcommand
kde-plasma-translatoid
kde-plasma-yawp
qt-recordmydesktop
skanlite
To graphical-internet group:
arora
choq
Adam Williamson wrote:
> And why the hell are you still using Luxi Mono, anyway? that thing went
> out with the ark...
I'm not the person you are posing your question to, but I use Luxi Mono
and can give you an answer:
"Because it is a wonderful serif mono font. Can you suggest me an
alternative?
Hello,
I plan to disable the internal crash handler in wxGTK for the the
devel/F13 branch so we can use ABRT to report crashes. This will mean a
rebuild of wxGTK with --disable-catch_segvs. This change affects all
applications linked with wxGTK, because one symbol is removed from the
"base" librar
Compose started at Mon Nov 2 06:15:07 UTC 2009
Broken deps for i386
--
1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0
Broken deps for x86_64
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1:na
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 12:15 +0100, Roman Rakus wrote:
> On 11/02/2009 11:57 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> >
> > Le Lun 2 novembre 2009 11:29, Ankur Sinha a écrit :
> >
> >> hi,
> >>
> >> I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
> >> browsing through another bug[2] on w
On 11/02/2009 11:57 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Lun 2 novembre 2009 11:29, Ankur Sinha a écrit :
hi,
I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
"wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6
Le Lun 2 novembre 2009 11:29, Ankur Sinha a écrit :
>
> hi,
>
> I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
> browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
>
> "wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
> expect to see any fixes
hi,
I've filed a bug[1] against wodim not burning dvds correctly. While
browsing through another bug[2] on wodim, I came across this comment[3].
"wodim is completely unmaintained since May 6th 2007, don't
expect to see any fixes anytime soon as long as Redhat
continues to distribute wodim instea
To Adam Williamson
Thank you for your command. Will RGB Gamma value be set 1.0 in the final
release? I think it needs.
And playing flashplayer in the web browser with Adobe Flash Player still has
some blocks. Maybe flash player cause that problem. I just wait.
To Tom 'spot' Callaway
Thank you f
On 11/02/2009 10:12 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 11/02/2009 02:43 PM, Peter Rajnoha wrote:
>
>>
>> Hopefully I've mentioned eveything that's important. If you have any
>> questions, please, feel free to raise your comments here. The plan is
>> to switch this on tomorrow, but if there's anyone wh
On 11/02/2009 02:43 PM, Peter Rajnoha wrote:
>
> Hopefully I've mentioned eveything that's important. If you have any
> questions, please, feel free to raise your comments here. The plan is
> to switch this on tomorrow, but if there's anyone who sees a problem
> here and who would like to test it
Hi,
this is just an announce that finally we will make a new rawhide
release tomorrow with udev support enabled in device-mapper and LVM2
packages (upcoming device-mapper-1.02.39-2, lvm2-2.02.54-2).
This is a scratch you can check and test if you would like to:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/k
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 09:16 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> OK, thanks for the link. I put a reply there. Bugzilla is a better
> place
> to discuss specific bugs than fedora-devel-list.
>
> Thank you for testing the Beta release.
> Michal
Ok and thanks a lot
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On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 15:47 +0800, Steven James Drinnan wrote:
> David why you are so upset? No need to get nasty. I simply posted a
> message about my problems installing F12. I did not Hijack any thread
> (see the subject name). I thought this was a public forum. I sent this
> to the whole mailin
Dne 2.11.2009 08:47, Steven James Drinnan napsal(a):
David why you are so upset? No need to get nasty. I simply posted a
message about my problems installing F12. I did not Hijack any thread
(see the subject name).
You posted your message as a reply to the other thread. That's what
David calle
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