Re: intent to retire: kudzu

2009-11-10 Thread Stewart Adam
On 2009/11/09 3:28 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 11/10/2009 01:58 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: However, it is still being required by two programs: - hwbrowser - fwfstab I filed a bug report against these programs a while back to move away from Kudzu. Neither of these programs themselves seem to

Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Stewart Adam
On 2009/11/10 5:41 PM, Peter Jones wrote: On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi, My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. If the silver MBP is also a 4,1 model, there may be complications... Ther

Fedora Core 12 Public AMI for EC2

2009-11-10 Thread August Zajonc
Hey there, Curious if anyone has put together FC11 (or 12) AMI for Amazons EC2. Anyone interested in working on this type of thing with me? Is there a key technical reason this may be hard / impossible? (Amazon kernel version for example jumps out as a possability). Many cheers, - August --

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Tue, 10-11-2009 a las 15:31 -0500, Caroline Meeks escribió: > Are you sure you macbook pro is capable of booting linux? I was > experimenting at a Apple Store and found that the White Macbooks there > were not capable of booting Linux from a CD, let alone Sugar from a > Stick. However the Silver

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Jakub Jelinek writes: > [...] >> > Well, hold on, debuginfo for multilib'd libraries like glibc should be >> > absolutely installable in parallel. >> >> Not unless someone changes the layout of debuginfo entirely, as they >> use common paths: >> >> /usr/src/debug/ Right, that's a complication.

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Björn Persson wrote: > I think can handle those. For true source code files there is no problem, > because they will be identical in both packages. Generated files can be placed > in separate subdirectories, for example > /usr/src/debug//%{_arch}.

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 18:40:24 +, Mat Booth wrote: > 2009/11/10 Jesse Keating : > > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > >> > >> After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) > > > > My keyboard has F13 next... > > > You *are* F13... Too many J.K.s and I appear to hav

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 08:02:15 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > > > After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) > > My keyboard has F13 next... F13 has to be named after Katz. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@red

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 22:25 +, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > > command-line: > > > > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ >

Re: [SoaS] Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 05:37 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > Hi, > > My MacBook is a 4,1. Will it work on my machine? A 64-bit EFI image should work on a MacBook4,1 . A 32-bit EFI image won't. -- Peter RFC 882 put the dots in .com. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > command-line: > >  ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format  --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ >        --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sd

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
Bill Nottingham wrote: > Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said: > > > I'm guessing that "we don't offer them multilib" means that 32-bit > > > debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems, > > > so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to > > > avoid c

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 03:49 PM, John Reiser wrote: >> pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images, >> and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images. > > Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; > Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. A

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:49:17 -0800, John Reiser wrote > Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; > Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. My old iBook G3 booted from USB. That was USB1.1, though, which may or may not be significant. -- fedor

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread John Reiser
pre-Santa Rosa mac will only boot 32-bit EFI images, and post-Santa Rosa macs will only boot 64-bit EFI images. Also, it is only recently that a Mac might boot from USB2.0 at all; Firewire (IEEE 1394) was required for most of Apple history. -- -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-lis

Re: Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 11/10/2009 02:40 PM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > Hello, > > I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this > command-line: > > ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ > --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 > > T

Booting Fedora live USB on MacBookPro

2009-11-10 Thread Bernie Innocenti
Hello, I'm creating an EFI bootable USB image on my rawhide system with this command-line: ./livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 400 \ --delete-home --extra-kernel-args selinux=0 ./soas04.iso /dev/sdb1 The resulting USB stick boots fine on a black MacBook, but not on

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 02:25:16PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said: > > > I'm guessing that "we don't offer them multilib" means that 32-bit > > > debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems, > > > so I'll take this to mean that I shoul

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Frank Ch. Eigler (f...@redhat.com) said: > > I'm guessing that "we don't offer them multilib" means that 32-bit > > debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems, > > so I'll take this to mean that I shouldn't bother doing anything to > > avoid conflicts. > > Well, hold on, de

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Mat Booth
2009/11/10 Jesse Keating : > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: >> >> After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) > > My keyboard has F13 next... You *are* F13... -- Mat Booth A: Because it destroys the order of the conversation. Q: Why shouldn't you do it? A: Posting you

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
=?iso-8859-15?q?Bj=F6rn_Persson?= writes: >> debuginfo packages cannot be multilib, that is why we don't offer them >> multilib. > I'm guessing that "we don't offer them multilib" means that 32-bit > debuginfo packages aren't meant to be installed on 64-bit systems, > so I'll take this to mean t

Re: Are conflicts in debuginfo packages OK?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 00:01 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > I don't see that I as a packager can do anything to prevent these > > conflicts. Shall I conclude that I don't need to care about conflicts > > between architecture versions of debuginfo packages? Or shall I try to >

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well. > > Ben says to send beer. :) Happily, ask him what slab he wants and where he wants it delivered :-P Pet

2009-11-09 Fedora 12 "Go/No Go" Meeting Minutes

2009-11-10 Thread John Poelstra
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2009-11-10/fedora-meeting.2009-11-10-01.01.log.html Me

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:02 -0800, John Poelstra wrote: > > My impressions from this meeting were slightly different :-) > > We noted that there are no known reasons that we are "not go" and that > we will continue testing until Wednesday when QA expects to have > completed the testing matrix.

KDE-SIG weekly report (46/2009)

2009-11-10 Thread Sebastian Vahl
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread John Poelstra
On 11/09/2009 05:29 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: We have just completed our Go / No Go meeting for Fedora 12 and have reached the decision to Go. Fedora 12's package set is golden and we're ready to stage things for shipping. Great work all around, I'm very My impressions from this meeting were s

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 11/10/2009 10:24 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well. > > Ben says to send beer. :) That would one hot beer if it travels all that way. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list ma

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 09:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well. Ben says to send beer. :) -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net --

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jesse Keating said: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) > > My keyboard has F13 next... The One True Keyboard(tm) (IBM Model M) has Print Screen/SysRq there. -- Chris Adams Systems and Network Administra

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On 11/10/2009 10:58 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bastien Nocera > wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > inode0 wrote: > > > With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) My keyboard has F13 next... -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- fe

Re: conflict between seedit <-> selinux-policy and qstat <-> torque-client

2009-11-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) said: > On 11/04/2009 01:38 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > >> Because seedit getting installed causes selinux-policy-targeted and > >> friends to get screwed up. > > > > That sounds like a reason to not ship seedit. Am I missing something? > > > > Bill > > > I

Nominations now open for December Fedora Elections

2009-11-10 Thread inode0
It is time to begin the process of nominating candidates for the open seats in the following bodies: * Fedora Project Board * Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) * Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo) General Election Schedule: * November 10-16: Nominations ar

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Fulko Hew
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > inode0 wrote: > > > With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the > > > naming process for the next Fedora release. > > > > After F12 comes Print Screen of c

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:45 +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > inode0 wrote: > > With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the > > naming process for the next Fedora release. > > After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) Depending on the keyboards I look at, I have "Insert", "E

Re: F13 Naming: Leonidas -> Constantine -> ?

2009-11-10 Thread Björn Persson
inode0 wrote: > With Fedora 12 just a few days from release it is time to begin the > naming process for the next Fedora release. After F12 comes Print Screen of course. ;-) Björn Persson signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedo

Re: Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote: > Dne 10.11.2009 16:24, Jeffrey Ollie napsal(a): >> >> ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to >> create bugs in Bugzilla.  It makes an attempt, but fails with the >> message: >> >>    XML-RPC Fault: libcurl fa

Re: Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Nikola Pajkovsky
Dne 10.11.2009 16:24, Jeffrey Ollie napsal(a): ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to create bugs in Bugzilla. It makes an attempt, but fails with the message: XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction. I've verified that I've config

Problems reporting crashes with ABRT

2009-11-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
ABRT has detected a couple of crashes recently, but has been unable to create bugs in Bugzilla. It makes an attempt, but fails with the message: XML-RPC Fault: libcurl failed to execute the HTTP POST transaction. I've verified that I've configured ABRT with the correct bugzilla username and p

Re: Fedora 12 has gone gold

2009-11-10 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Hopefully Nouveau gets 3D support within a couple of releases as well. > Getting rid of the biggest pain of proprietary drivers would be one > giant step forward for Linux on the desktop. It would be wonderful. Sometimes you have no choice for the hardware; if you get th

Re: odd file requires

2009-11-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:01:54 +0100, Kevin wrote: > Mark McLoughlin wrote: > > Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu > > about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the > > file requires makes more sense. > > So what? Many packages have hardcoded

rawhide report: 20091110 changes

2009-11-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Nov 10 08:15:09 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: gnome-do-0.8.2-4.fc12 - * Tue Nov 10 2009 Tom "spot" Callaway - 0.8.2-4 - Remove "Docky" due to patent issues Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 1 -- fedora-devel-

Re: A question about allow_unconfined_mmap_low in f11 amd selinux

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Cloaked
Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > The name has changed between RHEL5 - allow_unconfined_mmap_low and F12 - mmap_low_allowed > > The meaning has also changed > > in RHEL5 > > unconfined domains are allowed to mmap_low if the boolean is set. vbetool > and wine are allowed whether or > n

Re: pushing 3.12.0 to rawhide: freeimage

2009-11-10 Thread Rakesh Pandit
2009/9/23 Rakesh Pandit wrote: > On 09/23/2009 02:50 PM, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: >> 2009/9/23 Rakesh Pandit wrote: >>> I will be pushing freeimage 3.12.0 to rawhide and following >>> dependencies will need a bump to consume it. I will probably be >>> bumping them myself unless someone does it before

Re: odd file requires

2009-11-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mark McLoughlin wrote: > Leaving it as a package requires means hard-coding knowledge in qemu > about which version of gpxe-roms-qemu provides which roms. IMHO, the > file requires makes more sense. So what? Many packages have hardcoded Requires >= EVR for such things. Kevin Kofler -- f

Package Review Stats for last 7 days ending 8th Nov

2009-11-10 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package review" components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 8th Nov were Nicolas Mailhot, Steve Traylen and Parag AN(पराग). Nicolas Mailhot : 7 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532231 https://bugzilla.redhat.

Re: A question about allow_unconfined_mmap_low in f11 amd selinux

2009-11-10 Thread Mike Cloaked
Daniel J Walsh redhat.com> writes: > > definitely still getting the error with any Wine application with > > mmap_low_allowed set to 0. > > > > selinux-policy-3.6.32-41.fc12.noarch > > > The name has changed between RHEL5 - allow_unconfined_mmap_low > and F12 - mmap_low_allowed > > The meani