On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Simo Sorce wrote:
> > I agree, this needs protecting with a root password too.
>
> Jeff this is silly.
> Shutdown in console by default is perfectly fine, otherwise the user can
> simply push the power button.
Access to the console does not imply access to the power button,
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:19 PM, James Morris wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
>> I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
>> explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package
>> installs there.
>
> This is how I started doing thing
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Benny Amorsen (benny+use...@amorsen.dk) said:
> > > If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when
> > > installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs.
> > > Last I checked we default to OFF and that should c
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > MAC policy can be updated without administrative privilege, breaking our
> > MAC model in a fundamental way.
>
> I'm fairly sure that's wrong as well. Installation of another policy
> does not override the current one.
What about when the system i
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Actually, thinking about it, even this isn't sufficient. An attacker
> could change the ctrl+alt+F* bindings and use them to pop up a
> full-screen window that looks like the console. So you'd also need to
> set up securetty to ensure that root can
On 11/20/2009 09:19 PM, James Morris wrote:
Are we moving toward a model where the user and the administrator are no
longer really separated? Things seem to be regressing according to
whatever use-case some desktop developer thinks is important at the time.
Agreed. Speaking even more generall
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
> explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package
> installs there.
This is how I started doing things in 1993, although I changed to sudo a
few years back.
> >
On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 00:58 +0100, Christian Iseli wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I also got bitten by the "FC11 packages 'newer' than FC12" hickup, and
> while going through the yum remove/add maneuver I pondered:
> - is there ever a time when, while upgrading from Fedora n to Fedora
> n+1 I would expe
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said:
> 1. Needs GRUB hackery to support transparently. (For the DVD, Anaconda can
> detect the architecture and install a kernel accordingly, but for a live CD,
> we don't have any such support.)
That would be SYSLINUX hackery, not GRUB hackery. The CD and DVD i
W dniu 21.11.2009 02:02, Christian Iseli pisze:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:36:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Including Vendor in comparisons is just FAIL. Packages often move
>> from Fedora to RPM Fusion as legal problems are found or from RPM
>> Fusion to Fedora as legal problems are cleared, ther
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:36:28 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Including Vendor in comparisons is just FAIL. Packages often move
> from Fedora to RPM Fusion as legal problems are found or from RPM
> Fusion to Fedora as legal problems are cleared, there's no one vendor
> which can have precedence.
I don
Benny Amorsen wrote:
> Kevin Kofler writes:
>
>> (and not really implementable for the live images)
>
> Why not? It should be reasonably easy to handle that in the boot loader.
1. Needs GRUB hackery to support transparently. (For the DVD, Anaconda can
detect the architecture and install a ker
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Colin Walters wrote:
>> You don't; the submitter of course should get a link to their crash
>> report, and can perform the bugzilla promotion on their own if they
>> have more to add.
>
> My experience is that fire&forget reporting is rarely
Christian Iseli wrote:
> A.Vendor <=> B.Vendor
Including Vendor in comparisons is just FAIL. Packages often move from
Fedora to RPM Fusion as legal problems are found or from RPM Fusion to
Fedora as legal problems are cleared, there's no one vendor which can have
precedence.
On the other hand,
Colin Walters wrote:
> You don't; the submitter of course should get a link to their crash
> report, and can perform the bugzilla promotion on their own if they
> have more to add.
My experience is that fire&forget reporting is rarely useful, especially if
it comes from an automated tool where us
Benny Amorsen wrote:
> Kevin Kofler writes:
>
>> If we don't want to live in the past, we should go away from 32-bit, not
>> from CDs. ;-) Doubling the download size for everyone is a bad solution.
>
> An extra kernel shouldn't be that big a problem.
But it doesn't really solve the issue, as y
Hi folks,
I also got bitten by the "FC11 packages 'newer' than FC12" hickup, and
while going through the yum remove/add maneuver I pondered:
- is there ever a time when, while upgrading from Fedora n to Fedora
n+1 I would expect a package .fcn to be kept instead of getting
the .fcn+1 instance
Kevin Kofler writes:
> If we don't want to live in the past, we should go away from 32-bit, not
> from CDs. ;-) Doubling the download size for everyone is a bad solution.
An extra kernel shouldn't be that big a problem.
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Kevin Kofler writes:
> (and not really implementable for the live images)
Why not? It should be reasonably easy to handle that in the boot loader.
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Colin Walters wrote:
>> In an anonymous crash system, there should be a "promote to bugzilla"
>> link, where people could comment.
>
> And how would you track down the original submitter if you need further
> information from him?
You don't;
Colin Walters wrote:
> In an anonymous crash system, there should be a "promote to bugzilla"
> link, where people could comment.
And how would you track down the original submitter if you need further
information from him?
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drago01 wrote:
> We could have to images on one disk and let the bootloader load the
> appropriate one, but this would involve going away from CDs (which we
> should do anyway, we can't live in the past forever and still claim to
> be a leading edge distro)
If we don't want to live in the past, we
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Christoph Wickert wrote:
>> I disagree. As the maintainer, I need to be able to ask people for
>> details, clarification, feedback etc. This is impossible for anonymous
>> submissions and I doubt it will be possible with submissions that don'
Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Given the history of these, this sounds like way more work to change
> than it's worth. (They'd certainly have to still provide 'glib2'
> and 'gtk2' for many years in the future.)
Well, given how few things still use gtk+ 1, it shouldn't be that hard to do
now, as only th
Thomas Janssen wrote:
> If the special case is kde-plasma-smooth-tasks. It is not in updates
> yet. The needed deps are in updates-testing.
The problem is that the KDE 4.3.3 updates were edited while a push was
underway and so got accidentally unpushed from testing.
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Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> Yes, I'm planning to write another config backend for kwalet, but didn't
> find any usable API reference so far :(
This is the official API:
http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKWallet_1_1Wallet.html
This should also be usable through PyKDE4.
Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I disagree. As the maintainer, I need to be able to ask people for
> details, clarification, feedback etc. This is impossible for anonymous
> submissions and I doubt it will be possible with submissions that don't
> require an kind of authentication.
+1
And in fact, we
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 17:29 -0500, Alex Lancaster wrote:
> I was in the AutoQA meeting at FUDCon Boston in January and there was
> talk there then about deploying some AutoQA features "within 3-4 weeks",
> but those archives only started in April.
>
> Were those test results that go to the mailin
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> I must have lost it somewhere in my mailbox :-/ Thanks for reminding me,
> seems like kwalet and g-k use the same dbus interface, will add support
> for this soon.
They both use D-Bus, but the interfaces are different, or at least were last
I checked.
Kevin Kofler
On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 04:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
[...]
>> A lot of questions seem to be getting this answer but how close are
>> we to AutoQA doing all this? Are we going to start running it and
>> reporting bugs in Rawhide soon?
> "AW" == Adam Williamson writes:
AW> There's a week
>> The moblin stuff is a different use-case, primarily addressing the very low
>> end of HW, which is competing with SmartPhones, the XOs and the like.
> I understand your impressions but your claim that the Moblin spin isn't
> targeted at netbooks is just plain wrong. There is just no way aroun
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Benny Amorsen wrote:
>> If only the 32-bit version was smart enough to install a 64-bit kernel
>> when appropriate, this would not be such a disaster.
>
> That's just a broken hackaround (and not really implementable for the live
> images), t
> "NB" == Neal Becker writes:
NB> Something seems strange here with libotf. I want to push 0.9.9-3
NB> for F12. I went into my F-12 subdir and did the usual make tag
NB> build
NB> ERROR: Tag libotf-0_9_9-3_fc12 has been already created.
NB> OK, I bumped the tag.
NB> cvs tag -c libotf-0_9
Benny Amorsen wrote:
> If only the 32-bit version was smart enough to install a 64-bit kernel
> when appropriate, this would not be such a disaster.
That's just a broken hackaround (and not really implementable for the live
images), the real solution is to get people to just use the 64-bit versio
On 11/20/2009 10:07 AM, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 11:25:15 am Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
If they are or will be, will local non-root fuse mounts be permitted
during builds? As far as I'm aware there are no security issues with
doing this, although possibly there may be
> "NB" == Neal Becker writes:
NB> Wouldn't it be a good idea to disallow a push to updates that has
NB> broken deps?
It's a good idea, but as Josh Boyer says, it's quite tricky to actually
implement. And there are so many other issues/fires to put out with
getting each Fedora release, that
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 09:20:54PM +0100, Robert Scheck wrote:
> Hello Matt,
>
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Matt Domsch wrote:
> > mksh-39-1.fc12 (build/make) robert
>
> I tried to reproduce your build failure from your mass rebuild for mksh
>
> -
> http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequire
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:30:12 Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:23 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 08:48:56 -0500,
> >
> > Simo Sorce wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 03:42 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > > On 11/20/2009 02:21 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
On 11/18/2009 09:43 AM, Mat Booth wrote:
> 2009/11/18 Orcan Ogetbil :
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 17:11 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
Actually not if done in conjunction with a release bump, such as we do
with a mass rebuild.
>>
Hello Matt,
On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Matt Domsch wrote:
> mksh-39-1.fc12 (build/make) robert
I tried to reproduce your build failure from your mass rebuild for mksh
-
http://linux.dell.com/files/fedora/FixBuildRequires/mock-results/x86_64/mksh-39-1.fc12.src.rpm/result/build.log
-
http://linux.de
On 11/19/2009 06:39 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Yes, if the CPU has the lm (long mode) flag, it's a 64-bit-capable CPU and
> using the 32-bit version is suboptimal.
how can this be checked from within a web browser? Trusted Java applet?
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On 11/20/2009 05:30 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> As I tried to express several times before in this thread: Moblin is
> addressing and entirely different use-case.
>
> Whether this use-case of interest in individual situations is a
> different question - To some it might be interesting, to me, it
On Friday 20 November 2009 05:52:44 am Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Conrad Meyer
wrote:
> > On the contrary. On the typical single user system, it's just as bad if
> > an attacker can steal / delete / modify the user's files as it is if the
> > attacker can modify /
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:33:20 am James Morris wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> > > I think it's fair to say that having this happen as root would
> > > generally be worse than it happening as an unprivileged user. For the
> > > latter, the attacker would need to also then
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On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 09:39 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 05:01 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
> > FWIW, you could configure this for your own account by editing your
> > bugzilla email preferences to not send you mail when the Cc: list changes.
> >
>
> I did this long ago - I'm tempted t
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 09:53 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> I'm looking into the build failures Matt identified. With my shiny
> new Rawhide VM, I'm seeing this output on a local build of a package
> with no python sources:
>
> [ ... successful build messages ...]
> + /usr/lib/rpm/brp-python-bytecomp
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 10:50 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Benny Amorsen (benny+use...@amorsen.dk) said:
> > > If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when
> > > installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs.
> > > Last I checked we default to OFF and
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:24 +, Matthew Booth wrote:
> Firstly, I'd like to say I think abrt is fantastic. Call what follows a
> nit-pick. It's just a pretty in-your-face nit.
>
> After installing F12, after a short while I got presented with a couple
> of SELinux errors. This is nothing unus
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 12:23 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 08:48:56 -0500,
> Simo Sorce wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 03:42 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > On 11/20/2009 02:21 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> > > > there are also inconsistencies between gui clickery and shel
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 08:48:56 -0500,
Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 03:42 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > On 11/20/2009 02:21 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> > > there are also inconsistencies between gui clickery and shell usage...
> > > simple example:
> > >
> > > click "shutdown" in gno
On 09-11-20 07:06:34, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 12:24 PM, Matthew Booth wrote:
...
> > 5. Can abrt give me a list of submitted BZs so I can browse them if
> > I want to?
>
> This is in our TODO: ABRT should find possible duplicates and offer
> the reporter to browse them and manually
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
otaylor wrote:
This actually is one of the big advantages of PackageKit - because the
installation is being done by a daemon rather than a process running in
your session, if the X session dies during package installation, you
won't be left with
Compose started at Fri Nov 20 08:15:09 UTC 2009
New package fvkbd
Free Virtual Keyboard
New package gdouros-alexander-fonts
A Greek typeface inspired by Alexander Wilson
New package gdouros-analecta-fonts
An ecclesiastic scripts font
New package hunspell-ht
Haitian
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Owen Taylor wrote:
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:50 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
On 11/20/2009 10:04 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package
installs ther
Am 20.11.2009 17:34, schrieb Lubomir Rintel:
Hi,
automake1.11-2.fc11
automake17 1.7.9-12
What's wrong with this ? automake-1.11 is the new, current version,
automake1{4,5,6,7} are the older ones.
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otaylor wrote:
> This actually is one of the big advantages of PackageKit - because the
> installation is being done by a daemon rather than a process running in
> your session, if the X session dies during package installation, you
> won't be left with a half-completed transaction.
To what exte
I'm looking into the build failures Matt identified. With my shiny
new Rawhide VM, I'm seeing this output on a local build of a package
with no python sources:
[ ... successful build messages ...]
+ /usr/lib/rpm/brp-python-bytecompile
Bytecompiling .py files below [BUILDROOT]/usr/lib*/python*/ us
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:50 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 10:04 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
> > explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package
> > installs there. If you're not doing that then
On 11/20/2009 05:01 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
FWIW, you could configure this for your own account by editing your
bugzilla email preferences to not send you mail when the Cc: list changes.
I did this long ago - I'm tempted to say it should be the default.
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Lubomir Rintel (lkund...@v3.sk) said:
> glib1:1.2.10-32.fc11
> glib2 2.20.5-1.fc11
>
> gtk+1:1.2.10-68.fc11
> gtk22.16.6-2.fc11
Given the history of these, this sounds like way more work to change
than it's worth. (They'd certainly ha
On 11/20/2009 04:29 AM, Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying to
get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde.
Yeah, gnome-keyring and KDE don't play together nicely at times. Try
removing ~/.gnome2/keyrings and
Hi,
Alexander pointed out that I was suggesting a wrong name for Saxon 9
package [1]. In fact there's a couple of packages in repositories now
that violate the naming policy [2] in the very same way. Apart from
wondering what does Devrim think about renaming the existing saxon
package, I'm wonderi
On 11/20/2009 10:04 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
explicitly switches to a console to log in as root and perform package
installs there. If you're not doing that then the issue is basically
moot - a user-level compromise will become a r
James Morris (jmor...@namei.org) said:
> - The local session can now install any signed packages from the Fedora
>repos:
>
> - I think this includes old versions of packages (correct?)
Incorrect.
> MAC policy can be updated without administrative privilege, breaking our
> MAC model i
This is a heads up for people using the PackageDB in scripts. The plan is
to have the 0.5.x PackageDB deployed in infrastructure no later than Fedora
13 Alpha (currently penciled in as 2010-02-09). This release will include
major changes in the URL structure and a few removals of unused methods.
Am Freitag, den 20.11.2009, 11:24 + schrieb Matthew Booth:
> To get useful bug reports from the unwashed
> masses we need anonymous submission, or at least submission which
> doesn't require any kind of account creation or authentication.
I disagree. As the maintainer, I need to be able to a
Rudolf Kastl (che...@gmail.com) said:
> there are also inconsistencies between gui clickery and shell usage...
> simple example:
>
> click "shutdown" in gnome just does it in f12
>
> issuesing shutdown -h now on the shell asks for root password ... id
> really expect a system to show consistent
Benny Amorsen (benny+use...@amorsen.dk) said:
> > If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when
> > installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs.
> > Last I checked we default to OFF and that should continue to be the
> > case.
>
> Is there a blanket p
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 09:38:43AM -0500, Fulko Hew wrote:
>I do! And I tell everyone else too, so they learn/understand the
>difference
>between 'god' and a 'mere mortal user' (ie. root and anyone else).
Actually, thinking about it, even this isn't sufficient. An attacker
could cha
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 11:25:15 am Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> A package I'm building has an (optional) test which does a local
> non-root fuse mount in order to run some tests. In Koji this gives
> the error:
>
> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first
>
> So I have a couple
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 06:46:59AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
> I'd like to add my favorite repo. Possible?
>
I thought preupgrade already took whatever repos you have enabled in yum.
Do you want it to have UI for selecting repositories? Or something else?
-Toshio
pgpxlKePkYGCm.pgp
Description
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 08:50:06PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 00:50 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >
> > And why can't all this be done with s/git/SVN/? All we really need apart
> > from what CVS already provides is atomic commit IDs, to make the
> > "maintainers would not
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:09:15PM +1100, James Morris wrote:
>
> > Many users limit their use of the root account to essential system
> > maintenance, and run general purpose applications as a regular
> > unprivileged user.
>
> I know bas
On 11/20/2009 03:28 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 01:15 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:11:49 Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jaroslav Rez
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:09:15PM +1100, James Morris wrote:
> Many users limit their use of the root account to essential system
> maintenance, and run general purpose applications as a regular
> unprivileged user.
I know basically nobody who, on a generally single user system,
explicitly sw
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 01:15 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> On Friday 20 November 2009 13:11:49 Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>> On Fr
Jesse Keating wrote:
> You're making the assumption that the change was made to save space. It
> wasn't. I can't find the original thread right now, but it's part of a
> cleanup on configuration tools. Upstream felt it no longer necessary to
> expose this
Wow. Did they get any estimates on the
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:52:42PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> > It's a hack. It's Fedora-specific, so doesn't belong in RPM (or
> > anything else). And RPM will no longer produce predictable versioning.
> >
>
> My proposed hack's outcome is quite predictable.
>
I just faced this same attitude
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:26 AM, Conrad Meyer wrote:
> On the contrary. On the typical single user system, it's just as bad if an
> attacker can steal / delete / modify the user's files as it is if the attacker
> can modify / delete system files. Privilege escalation isn't needed to delete
> ever
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 03:42 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 02:21 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> > there are also inconsistencies between gui clickery and shell usage...
> > simple example:
> >
> > click "shutdown" in gnome just does it in f12
>
> Yeah, you can do that in F11 as well :(
>
>
On 11/20/2009 12:29 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying to
get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde.
What does it say?
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Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying to
get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde.
Are you behind a proxy? We've found that ABRT doesn't pick up our proxy
settings and therefore can't submit reports from behi
2009/11/20 Neal Becker :
> Wouldn't it be a good idea to disallow a push to updates that has broken
> deps?
If the special case is kde-plasma-smooth-tasks. It is not in updates
yet. The needed deps are in updates-testing.
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 07:26:27AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote:
>Wouldn't it be a good idea to disallow a push to updates that has broken
>deps?
Yes, it would. It's been discussed numerous times on this list an others.
Summary: Needs hard thinking and people actually working on it. Not trivial.
Mike A. Harris wrote:
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> King InuYasha wrote:
>
>> Except, that could be false advertising. In most cases, where CPU
>> computation is not used heavily, 64-bit is actually SLOWER than the
>> 32-bit counterpart. Optimizations are narrowing the gap
Wouldn't it be a good idea to disallow a push to updates that has broken
deps?
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King InuYasha wrote:
> Except, that could be false advertising. In most cases, where CPU
> computation is not used heavily, 64-bit is actually SLOWER than the
> 32-bit counterpart. Optimizations are narrowing the gap, but it still
> remains true.
On
On 11/20/2009 01:15 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:11:49 Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
Seth Vidal writes:
> If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when
> installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs.
> Last I checked we default to OFF and that should continue to be the
> case.
Is there a blanket prohibition on daemons defaulting to ON
On Friday 20 November 2009 13:11:49 Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> > Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> >> On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> >>> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
> > I can't seem to get abr
On 11/20/2009 01:08 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on
trying to
get bz username password. I
On 11/20/2009 01:01 PM, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 20/11/09 11:24, Matthew Booth wrote:
Firstly, I'd like to say I think abrt is fantastic. Call what follows a
nit-pick. It's just a pretty in-your-face nit.
After installing F12, after a short while I got presented with a couple
of SELinux errors. T
Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
>> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on
trying to
get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work
On 11/20/2009 12:24 PM, Matthew Booth wrote:
Firstly, I'd like to say I think abrt is fantastic. Call what follows a
nit-pick. It's just a pretty in-your-face nit.
After installing F12, after a short while I got presented with a couple
of SELinux errors. This is nothing unusual in a new Fedora r
On 11/20/2009 05:16 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
> I'd like to add my favorite repo. Possible?
I assume you meant Preupgrade. File a RFE I suppose.
Rahul
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On 20/11/09 11:24, Matthew Booth wrote:
Firstly, I'd like to say I think abrt is fantastic. Call what follows a
nit-pick. It's just a pretty in-your-face nit.
After installing F12, after a short while I got presented with a couple
of SELinux errors. This is nothing unusual in a new Fedora releas
On 11/20/2009 12:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying
to
get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde.
> From what I know it
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ikem Krueger wrote:
>> "You're pc could be run faster, if you upgrade this operating system
>> to the 64bit version of it. You can download them here if you like:
>> [Link]"
>
> That gives very little incentive to fetch the correct version. Making the
> optimistic assumption
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
> On Friday 20 November 2009 12:29:34 Neal Becker wrote:
>> I can't seem to get abrt to work at all. I suspect it's stuck on trying
>> to
>> get bz username password. I suspect it doesn't work correctly with kde.
>>
>
>>From what I know it works correctly in KDE, even we
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