On 12/17/2009 12:46 PM, Christof Damian wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:58, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>>> pavucontrol currently crashes (and pulseaudio) for me on one machine
>>> and I need this functionality.
>>
>> File a bug.
>
> Could everyone on this list please assume that I filed a b
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 19:58, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> pavucontrol currently crashes (and pulseaudio) for me on one machine
>> and I need this functionality.
>
> File a bug.
Could everyone on this list please assume that I filed a bug or found
the bug already reported if I mention a bug.
Ch
Am 2009-12-17 00:08, schrieb Jeff Spaleta:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
Yes— users with more expertise are more likely to complain about this,
but thats not reason to dismiss the issue. If there were truly a
disconnect here betweens the needs of the novices and those
On 12/16/2009 06:34 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
Am 2009-12-16 18:21, schrieb Seth Vidal:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing
what
does and does not need a reboot.
All I'm saying is - we've n
On 12/16/2009 03:51 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> 2009/12/16 Mail Lists :
>> The last part is a clean up phase which could be deferred to reboot
>> or perhaps something a little more clever.
>
> The devil is in the detail :)
>
> Richard.
>
Yes but how are:
(a) Kill app - install - restart
FUDCon Toronto (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009) is
over - our largest FUDCon yet! We'd love to get your thoughts on how it
went, so:
* If you attended FUDCon Toronto, either in-person or remotely via
Fedora Live, please take this survey and tell us what you thought.
* If you
On 2006-11-22 05:37:43, Patrice Dumas wrote:
On Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 10:29:44AM +, Andrew Haley wrote:
> >
> > Not only. There are cases when all those issues are moot,
> > a prominent one
> > being for numerical models. Compiling models statically makes
> > it possible
> > to run th
Peter Jones wrote:
> Not that I've got an answer for your question, but you might want to
> tell your computer that it's not 2006.
William W. Austin (or possibly his ISP, Speakeasy) is actually resending
mail which was originally sent back in 2006. I got 2 extra copies of a mail
I already receiv
- Original Message -
From: "Gregory Maxwell"
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot...
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal
wrote:
you're an experienced user? You're comforta
On 09-12-16 18:19:17, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:38 -0400, William W. Austin wrote:
> > 05/01/2007 05:38:26 AM (Tue, 01 May 2007 08:38:26 -0400)
>
> Your date is still wrong.
No, the date is correct. That's when the message was sent the first
time around -- it's in the list
Orcan Ogetbil writes:
> If there is a way to file an update (same version and release except
> the disttag) to multiple branches, please let me know.
Usually it works: just add all the package NVRs to the same update
submission. (That's what the "add another package" button is for.)
The case I
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of
> postgresql. It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates.
> I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is
> this new breakage? If the latter, wh
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 08:38 -0400, William W. Austin wrote:
> 05/01/2007 05:38:26 AM (Tue, 01 May 2007 08:38:26 -0400)
Your date is still wrong.
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message
2009/12/16 Jesse Keating :
> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:19 +, Quentin Armitage wrote:
>> I've noticed what might be a couple of anomalies regarding which
>> versions of packages have been tagged into f12-final.
>>
>> freenx-client: 0.9-9.fc12 was built as part of the dist-f12-rebuild, but
>> 0.9-
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
> Yes— users with more expertise are more likely to complain about this,
> but thats not reason to dismiss the issue. If there were truly a
> disconnect here betweens the needs of the novices and those of the
> expert users you could argue fa
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 11:19 +, Quentin Armitage wrote:
> I've noticed what might be a couple of anomalies regarding which
> versions of packages have been tagged into f12-final.
>
> freenx-client: 0.9-9.fc12 was built as part of the dist-f12-rebuild, but
> 0.9-10.fc11 tagged has been tagged
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> you're an experienced user? You're comfortable knowing what does and what
> does not require a reboot? Then why are you using PK?
>
> Disable pk and do the updates directly via yum.
>
> Bam - no more requests to reboot.
This is a completely bo
I recently made several updates to a Linux version of of acctcom
(actually another accounting add-on package) which I've been using for
several years, and one of the people testing it asked a question which
I cannot answer. I'm hoping that someone on this list can give me some
info.
I ha
> -Original Message-
> From: fedora-devel-list-boun...@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-devel-list-
> boun...@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Przemek Klosowski
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 15:30
> To: fedora-devel-list@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot...
>
> On 12/16/2
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 10:42 -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> But for anyone that does not using "master" as the default branch will
> be a problem. If you never used git you have to learn a lot of things
> anyway.
I would hope you don't have to. To be a Fedora maintainer you hardly
have to know a thing
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 08:23:49 -0400
"William W. Austin" wrote:
>
> (I know that this question might be more reasonable on a kernel
> list, but a while back I posted the question twice and got no
> answers.)
Possibly because the system you are sending email from thinks it's
2006, so many people w
On 10/19/2006 08:23 AM, William W. Austin wrote:
>
Not that I've got an answer for your question, but you might want to
tell your computer that it's not 2006.
--
Peter
When privacy is outlawed only outlaws will have privacy.
-- Zimmermann
--
fedora-devel-list mailing
(I know that this question might be more reasonable on a kernel list,
but a while back I posted the question twice and got no answers.)
The acct struct is defined in /usr/include/sys/acct.h includes both
ac_io and ac_rw for bytes transferred and blocks read or written,
respectively. Fair
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:31 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
> 2) The last 20 minutes of the Fedora Infrastructure: Sysadmins
>vs. Developers love-in. I'm grateful to whoever shot this, but
>I've complete blanked on who it was now. I'll be glad to give you
>attribution, please remind me!
>
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 16:30 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> HOWEVER, just because Windows suck doesn't mean that Linux should suck
> too. My own preference would be a more discriminating dialog
> that offers three possibilities: 'do nothing', 'bounce the
> service/application' and 'reboot'.
Y
On 12/16/2009 03:43 PM, Otto Haliburton wrote:
windows update will automatically reboot your system when it automatically
updates it windows tried the optional stuff but now almost every case it
requires a
restart.
Even when it asks, it does that with a modal focus-grabbing dialog
window. I
Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said:
> > Given how it's implemented, you could do something truly disgusting like
> > ACTIVE_CONSOLES=$([ "$RUNLEVEL" = 3 ] && echo '/dev/tty[1-6]' || echo
> > '/dev/tty2')
> > I'm not sure I really want to *support* people doing that, though.
>
> You mean, yo
- Original Message -
From: "nodata"
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: packages requiring me to reboot...
Am 2009-12-16 18:21, schrieb Seth Vidal:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
we're talking about the
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Debarshi Ray wrote:
He is just pointing out that there is lot more work to do than you
think. In other words he is contesting your claim that "The kernel
side apparently works fine AFAICT".
Well, I don't really know how to else to counter "there may be
unknown bugs". Ker
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:23:31AM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > How hard would it be to make this be different in runlevels 3 and 5? I like
> > to have lots in runlevel 3, and few if X is available.
> Given how it's implemented, you could do something truly disgusting like
> ACTIVE_CONSOLES=$(
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:29:17PM +, Paul Jakma wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
>> "It works for me" is a poor standard of support.
>
> There must be something transmogrifying my emails before it reaches
> other subscribers of this list, either that or I am being unrea
On Wed, 09.12.09 13:51, Christof Damian (chris...@damian.net) wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:59, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:51:55AM -0200, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote:
> > pavucontrol is regarded as advance tool, but also partly
> > obsolete. Current gnome-volume-contro
>> "It works for me" is a poor standard of support.
>
> There must be something transmogrifying my emails before it reaches other
> subscribers of this list, either that or I am being unreasonable in thinking
He is just pointing out that there is lot more work to do than you
think. In other words
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
"It works for me" is a poor standard of support.
There must be something transmogrifying my emails before it reaches
other subscribers of this list, either that or I am being
unreasonable in thinking that by asking /if/ Fedora would consider
*supp
Toshio Kuratomi writes:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:15:37PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
>> I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of
>> postgresql. It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates.
>> I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is
>
On 12/16/2009 10:38 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
Hands are needed to help advance this. Care to lend one?
Yes. I'm attempting to become more involved. I've submitted my first
package, and am going through the review process. That doesn't help in
thi
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
Hands are needed to help advance this. Care to lend one?
Yes. I'm attempting to become more involved. I've submitted my first package,
and am going through the review process. That doesn't help in this particular
case, but I am not complaini
On 12/16/2009 10:28 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
seems like a package basically has complex upgrade issues, so we
reboot. Are there other tags packages can have other than reboot?
Should there be? etc etc..
No.
The reason for this is that PKs targe
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
Am 2009-12-16 18:21, schrieb Seth Vidal:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing what
does and does not need a reboot.
All I'm saying is - we've not taken away any option, the experienced
u
Toshio Kuratomi writes:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:13:33AM +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote:
>> Jesse Keating writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either
>> >> and both are common upstream
Am 2009-12-16 18:21, schrieb Seth Vidal:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing what
does and does not need a reboot.
All I'm saying is - we've not taken away any option, the experienced
user can do what they want.
-sv
True
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
seems like a package basically has complex upgrade issues, so we
reboot. Are there other tags packages can have other than reboot?
Should there be? etc etc..
No.
The reason for this is that PKs target audience is not someone like me, and
as
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:15:37PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
> I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of
> postgresql. It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates.
> I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is
> this new breakage? If the la
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, nodata wrote:
we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing what
does and does not need a reboot.
All I'm saying is - we've not taken away any option, the experienced
user can do what they want.
-sv
True, but the default should be sensible.
An
Am 2009-12-16 17:51, schrieb Seth Vidal:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Peter Jones wrote:
On 12/16/2009 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
you're an experienced user? You're comfortable knowing what does and
what does not require a reboot? Then why are you using PK?
Disable pk and do the updates directly v
On 12/16/2009 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
Maybe this is a feature that needs to be addressed in the rpm layer or
something so that upgrades can have multiple effects with regards to
needing a reboot. I'm not sure how PK gets the request to reboo
2009/12/16 Eric Sandeen :
> Michał Piotrowski wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've got a home database/symfony env/etc../file server. It's based on
>> Intel D945GCLF2D Atom board. I've got a two hard drives WD Green Power
>> connected through Sata. First drive has / and /home filesystem, second
>> has /home/sa
I tried to submit an update for both the fc12 and fc11 versions of
postgresql. It did not work; I had to file them as separate updates.
I'm pretty sure it used to work --- is my memory failing me, or is
this new breakage? If the latter, where do I file bugs against the
submission webpage?
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
Maybe this is a feature that needs to be addressed in the rpm layer or
something so that upgrades can have multiple effects with regards to needing
a reboot. I'm not sure how PK gets the request to reboot from a package, but
I'm wondering about
On 12/16/2009 09:51 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Peter Jones wrote:
On 12/16/2009 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
you're an experienced user? You're comfortable knowing what does and
what does not require a reboot? Then why are you using PK?
Disable pk and do the updates directly
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 06:34:09PM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
> With the new rpm, all you need to have in the spec for this case is:
>
> %global __ocaml_requires_opts -i Asttypes -i Parsetree
>
> These will get passed to __ocaml_requires automatically when it runs,
> and similarly to pass opti
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Seth Vidal said:
we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing what
does and does not need a reboot.
It seems though that there is a problem with how the "needs a reboot"
option is set (and if that is the case,
Once upon a time, Seth Vidal said:
> we're talking about the experienced user who is comfortable knowing what
> does and does not need a reboot.
It seems though that there is a problem with how the "needs a reboot"
option is set (and if that is the case, it should be addressed). For
example, in
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Peter Jones wrote:
On 12/16/2009 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
you're an experienced user? You're comfortable knowing what does and
what does not require a reboot? Then why are you using PK?
Disable pk and do the updates directly via yum.
Bam - no more requests to reboot.
On 12/16/2009 11:43 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> you're an experienced user? You're comfortable knowing what does and
> what does not require a reboot? Then why are you using PK?
>
> Disable pk and do the updates directly via yum.
>
> Bam - no more requests to reboot.
I get what you're saying, and it
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
So again today, I see some updates two of which require a full system reboot.
nfs-utils and ibus-rawcode. My system seriously needs to be shut down for
those to be properly updated? This is what I don't get. nfs-utils never got a
system reboot
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Since RPM 4.8 (now in Rawhide / Fedora 13), the external dependency
generator that we used to ship with OCaml has now gone upstream into
RPM. This is a Good Thing, thanks to the RPM maintainers for adding
this.
If you own an OCaml library package,
Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) said:
> > One notable change that was made is that we were able to simplify the
> > jobs to the point where the number of login consoles is now configurable,
> > without editing or removing upstart job definitions.
> > This is done by the ACTIVE_CONSOLES paramete
So again today, I see some updates two of which require a full system
reboot.
nfs-utils and ibus-rawcode. My system seriously needs to be shut down
for those to be properly updated? This is what I don't get. nfs-utils
never got a system reboot before, it doesn't get one on RHEL/Centos
boxes..
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:13:33AM +0100, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> Jesse Keating writes:
>
> > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> >>
> >> My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either
> >> and both are common upstream in git and the kernel.
> >>
> >>
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:42:28AM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 07:28 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > >
> > > > master makes a lot of sense from a
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 03:32:29PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> One notable change that was made is that we were able to simplify the
> jobs to the point where the number of login consoles is now configurable,
> without editing or removing upstart job definitions.
> This is done by the ACTIVE_CO
Simo Sorce wrote:
> But for anyone that does not using "master" as the default branch
> will be a problem. If you never used git you have to learn a lot of
> things anyway.
I think the target audience is not mostly git users. Most of the SCM
integration will be wrapped up in fedpkg calls anyway.
Since RPM 4.8 (now in Rawhide / Fedora 13), the external dependency
generator that we used to ship with OCaml has now gone upstream into
RPM. This is a Good Thing, thanks to the RPM maintainers for adding
this.
If you own an OCaml library package, then there are some simple
adjustments you need t
Michał Piotrowski wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've got a home database/symfony env/etc../file server. It's based on
> Intel D945GCLF2D Atom board. I've got a two hard drives WD Green Power
> connected through Sata. First drive has / and /home filesystem, second
> has /home/samba4. On the first drive there ar
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 07:28 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> >
> > > master makes a lot of sense from a git perspective. devel (or rawhide)
> > > makes sense from what we ac
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:33:20AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:35 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>
> > master makes a lot of sense from a git perspective. devel (or rawhide)
> > makes sense from what we actually call the code that that branch eventually
> > makes. A symli
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:30:11AM +, Paul Jakma wrote:
On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
And the remaining 0.1% of the work is probably the other 99.9% of the
time. I think you massively underestimate the number of corner cases
pres
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 12:30:11AM +, Paul Jakma wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>
>> And the remaining 0.1% of the work is probably the other 99.9% of the
>> time. I think you massively underestimate the number of corner cases
>> present in an utterly untested configurat
On 12/16/09 14:12, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Hi -
Is yum-presto known to work on arm? Today I changed our repo to use
deltarpms and tested it out. I noticed...
If you can get me ssh access to an arm machine, I'll look into both of
these problems. Please also open a bug aga
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 14:06 +, Andy Green wrote:
> Hi -
>
> Is yum-presto known to work on arm? Today I changed our repo to use
> deltarpms and tested it out. I noticed...
>
> 1) On a package where I know the bulk of the unpacked data is some fonts
> inside an ELF executable that didn't c
Hi -
Is yum-presto known to work on arm? Today I changed our repo to use
deltarpms and tested it out. I noticed...
1) On a package where I know the bulk of the unpacked data is some fonts
inside an ELF executable that didn't change, the compression result
was... not good
Old RPM: 2542
Hi,
I've got a home database/symfony env/etc../file server. It's based on
Intel D945GCLF2D Atom board. I've got a two hard drives WD Green Power
connected through Sata. First drive has / and /home filesystem, second
has /home/samba4. On the first drive there are two directories
/home/samba2 and /h
Compose started at Wed Dec 16 08:15:08 UTC 2009
Broken deps for i386
--
1:abiword-2.8.1-2.fc13.i686 requires libwv-1.2.so.3
anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0
anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 require
Jesse Keating writes:
> On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>>
>> My thinking is that we don't use origin/next or origin/maint either
>> and both are common upstream in git and the kernel.
>>
>> While origin/master is common,
>
> origin/master isn't "common", it's the frig
2009/12/16 Mail Lists :
> The last part is a clean up phase which could be deferred to reboot
> or perhaps something a little more clever.
The devil is in the detail :)
Richard.
--
fedora-devel-list mailing list
fedora-devel-list@redhat.com
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel
2009/12/15 Colin Walters :
> This exists? Can you point me to the code?
I only finished this just this morning.
It's just been pushed to git master. You want to see this commit
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/packagekit/commit/?id=66d3fc26054abd528ee18017d9c67edb6400f239
for the juicy config bits.
77 matches
Mail list logo
