Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:23 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 12:16:13PM -0500, Tom spot Callaway wrote: >> On 01/05/2010 12:08 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> Not for all packaging policies, but for some I think that would be a >>> good idea. Pick a s

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:27 PM, Tom Lane wrote: > But there's a general issue that new things keep getting added > to the packaging guidelines and there's no very good mechanism to > detect whether existing packages ever get updated to comply. You're right. I'm hopeful that the items which can be checked

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/05/2010 12:08 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Not for all packaging policies, but for some I think that would be a > good idea. Pick a set of policies we think are particularly important > to enforce & can be automatically checked, and declare any non-compliant > ones will be dropped in the n

Re: Heads-up: %define vs %global in specs

2010-01-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/05/2010 11:50 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > What exactly do you mean 'no longer work' ? Can we expect to get a formal > RPM build error for this bogus construct, or will it silently build and > do the wrong thing ? From your long description, it sounds like the latter, > which means maintai

Re: Our static Libraries packaging guidelines once more

2010-01-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/05/2010 11:30 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 11:03 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> On the other hand, with the >> guideline being so widely ignored, I'm not in a hurry to do work to >> comply with it ... > > Isn't that a chicken/egg problem? It really is. I mean, we could creat

Re: orphaning gwibber, any takers?

2010-01-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 01/04/2010 04:25 PM, Ian Weller wrote: > I know Gwibber is widely used by Fedora users because there are a > crapton of abrt reports for it and I just can't keep up with it. :) > > Let me know if you have a desire for maintaining Gwibber in Fedora. From > what I've heard, a release of 2.30 is o

Re: Fedora Linux Format software review: January 2010

2009-12-31 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/30/2009 02:15 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > It would be nice if others could join in (be it virtual not necessarily > physically). So are there any takers for this ? It might be useful to have a wiki page listing out the specific content items which need to be replaced. ~spot -- fedora-devel

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/30/2009 05:01 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> FWIW, I'm pretty sure this is not against current Fedora policies, >> assuming that the libtommath maintainer signs off on it and there is no >> conflict between the two packages. >

Re: packaging a static library

2009-12-30 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/30/2009 03:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Daniel Drake wrote: >> The upstream library is already in Fedora as a shared library. >> I guess the approach I will take is to install our audited version as a >> shared library under a different name (libtommath_olpc?) which the >> components will the

Re: dist-git proof of concept phase 2 ready for testing

2009-12-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/23/2009 06:07 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: >> Right, but when I as a releng person need to bump something in an >> emergency or when a maintainer is out, I expect origin/master to be >> "live" for rawhide, ditto origin/F-12 for Fedora 12. I don't expect >> that I'd have to go hunting down where

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/23/2009 03:34 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Michael Cronenworth said: >> Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >>> (Yes, the irony of a talk on software patents being offered in MP3 >>> format is not lost on me.) >> >> Just think... one m

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/23/2009 02:10 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: > On 23/12/09 18:58, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: >> >>> Can I ask on what grounds? Is the patent license insufficient, or is >>> there some other problem? >&

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:56 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: > On 23/12/09 18:46, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> With that said, this new "covenant" does NOT change our stance on >> Moonlight. It is still not permissible in Fedora. >> > > Can I ask on what gro

Re: New covenant published

2009-12-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/23/2009 01:38 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > As the patent license is non-Free, Moonlight still has to be considered non- > Free wherever software patents apply. So as far as I can tell, this is not > acceptable for Fedora, sorry. (But of course spot and/or RH Legal will have > the final word.)

Re: mono and snk key files

2009-12-20 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 12/19/2009 11:03 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: > 2009/12/15 Adam Goode : >> On 12/13/2009 06:16 AM, Christopher Brown wrote: >>> 2009/12/11 Adam Goode : We should definitely use Debian's key, right? Otherwise some Fedora CLI libraries would be unnecessarily incompatible with Debian, and

Re: 190 packages with .la file(s)

2009-12-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/30/2009 08:42 AM, Pierre-Yves wrote: > gambas2-2.18.0-1.fc12.src.rpm Gambas is... special. It needs these .la files to function. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: review request - rasmol, Molecular Graphics Visualization Tool

2009-12-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/24/2009 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > But I dunno if there's a policy > requirement that you should anyway. FWIW, the policy says: "If a package contains a GUI application, then it needs to also include a properly installed .desktop file. For the purposes of these guidelines, a GUI app

Re: Local users get to play root?

2009-11-18 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/18/2009 08:22 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote: > [At the risk of letting this get lost in the shuffle of this > thread...] > > Seth Vidal wrote: >> If there are pkgs which run daemons which are defaulting to ON when >> installed or on next reboot - then we should be auditing those pkgs. >> Last I c

Re: Question about tagging

2009-11-18 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/18/2009 10:53 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote: > Tom \"spot\" Callaway wrote: >> On 11/18/2009 10:29 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote: >>> Shouldn't I be getting f13 tags with "make tag"? >> >> If you run: cvs update -d in the top level ch

Re: Question about tagging

2009-11-18 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/18/2009 10:29 AM, Rick L. Vinyard, Jr. wrote: > Shouldn't I be getting f13 tags with "make tag"? If you run: cvs update -d in the top level checkout directory, you will. ;) ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-

Re: ilbsndfile update!

2009-11-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/14/2009 05:59 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Hi folks, > After getting okays from a few folks I decided to fix the long > standing libsndfile bugs. > > One of these was a request [1] to split the utilities that come with > libsndfile into a utils subpackage. I did this only for F-13. > > Since

Re: id3lib stack smashing

2009-11-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/12/2009 01:39 PM, Adrian Reber wrote: > There is ubuntu bug report against id3lib "libid3 crashes (stack > smashing) when reading VBR MP3 file"[1]. I am able to reproduce this on > ubuntu but not on Fedora and I do not understand why. The patch[2] looks > like it is doing the right thing but

Re: Package name conflict: eina, the media player or optimized data types and useful tools for e-17.

2009-11-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/12/2009 12:06 AM, Ding Yi Chen wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to build e-17 by hand. > When I try to build from eina from e-17, > however, I found that the package name, eina, is already been taken by eina, > the media player. > > How should I do with them? Off the top of my head, I'd sug

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/04/2009 05:26 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 16:12:40 -0500, > Tom spot Callaway wrote: >> On 11/03/2009 03:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> >> Well, it turned out to be a lot more complicated than that. Alienarena >> uses

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/03/2009 03:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 11/03/2009 02:16 PM, Jerry James wrote: >> My guess (and it is just a guess) is that this is triggering multiple >> initializations of portaudio. Try this patch: Well, it turned out to be a lot more complicated t

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/03/2009 02:16 PM, Jerry James wrote: > This seems to happen only when portaudio is installed. Uninstall > portaudio and alienarena starts up. I'm not sure exactly what is > going on here, but it seems that alienarena is both trying to dlopen > libopenal, and is linked against it. Check it

Re: help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/03/2009 12:16 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 11:45 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> I need to rebuild alienarena for all targets due to a security issue, so >> I decided to update to 7.32, but unfortunately, the 7.32 build segfaults >> i

help debugging segfault with alienarena 7.32

2009-11-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
I need to rebuild alienarena for all targets due to a security issue, so I decided to update to 7.32, but unfortunately, the 7.32 build segfaults immediately on Fedora 12 (x86_64), and gdb isn't much help (gdb output is at the bottom). Now, it is worth noting that the alienarena client does dlopen

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/03/2009 09:52 AM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Joerg Schilling said: >> -Redhat continues to distribute "cdrkit" although there are >> known legal problems with it and Redhat has been informed more that >> once about this fact. > > it is "Red Hat", not "Redhat" (and

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/03/2009 09:13 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > Dne 3.11.2009 02:55, King InuYasha napsal(a): >> The only thing I can figure out from this conversation is that the CDDL >> is supposed to be incompatible with the GPL. If that's the case, why not >> simply ask the original creator to kindly dual license

Re: Font rendering slightly degraded in recent rawhide

2009-11-02 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/02/2009 04:26 PM, Rajeesh K Nambiar wrote: > I did even contact Mr. Chuck Bigelow to find out any > possibility of licensing Luxi fonts under an open source license, when > Fedora decided to drop them. For what it is worth, when we dropped them, I contacted the upstream copyright holder as w

Re: Wodim trouble

2009-11-02 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/02/2009 03:47 PM, Denis Leroy wrote: > On 11/02/2009 07:18 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> That may be true, but since cdrecord is not shippable, it's a pretty >> vacuous truth. > > Out of curiosity, was that just because of the GPL2-CDDL mix ? Or was > there another reason ? Last I checked, only

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-11-02 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 11/02/2009 05:23 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: > Thank you for hard work. Crhomium browser in Fedora 12 looks perfect. Is > there any plan to push chromium into rawhide or updates-testing. I think > chromium has enough stability to make more users test itself. Not until Chromium comes out of beta a

Re: rawhide report: 20091030 changes

2009-10-30 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/30/2009 12:03 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > On 10/30/2009 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >>> 1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0 >> >> This one still needs attention from a Mono person to fix the rebuild. (A >>

Re: rawhide report: 20091030 changes

2009-10-30 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/30/2009 11:00 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> 1:nant-0.85-30.fc12.i686 requires mono(NDoc.Core) = 0:1.3.3498.0 > > This one still needs attention from a Mono person to fix the rebuild. (A > rebuild would be all that's needed, but the problem is that it's failing to > build. > http://koji.fedo

Re: Fwd: Request to update ATi OSS driver for Fedora 12

2009-10-29 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/29/2009 09:09 AM, Liang Suilong wrote: > And then, Tom 'spot' Callaway has not pushed a new upgrade for chromium > browser. But I do not want to disturbing him. I just wait for him > silently. Haha! There is a reason for the delay: http://spot.livejournal.com/311443.htm

Re: Fix possibility of infinite loop in init scripts in time for Fedora 12?

2009-10-21 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/21/2009 12:54 AM, hidenori.is...@avasys.jp wrote: > A colleague of mine submitted a bug report regarding an infinite loop > triggered when calling `lsb_start_daemon` with the `-p` option[1]. This > bug has been around since at least Fedora 9 and is still present in the > beta for Fedora 12.

Re: What to do if a deprecated license is used? nescc java files with intel license

2009-10-16 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/15/2009 10:02 AM, Till Maas wrote: > Hiyas, > > I looked into packaging the nesc compiler > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/nescc) and I noticed that it uses the > deprecated intel license for some java files: > http://nescc.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/nescc/nesc/COPYRIGHT?revision=1.2&view

Re: Bug reporting URL field in packages

2009-10-06 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 10/06/2009 10:37 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > It is out of scope for this discussion though, the question here is > about the default value Fedora packages should have. The BUGURL tag > contents is just a plain old string which is expanded from %bugurl macro > at build time and currently no furt

Re: Mono-2.6 - heads up

2009-09-18 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/18/2009 02:17 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > Given that we are feature frozen, is it wise to bump mono like this at > this stage in the development cycle? No. We should be doing this work in the dist-f13 target, especially given the complexity and pain of doing a proper bootstrap and rebuild. ~

Re: Changes to openvrml.spec

2009-09-13 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/13/2009 05:21 PM, Paul Howarth wrote: > And you probably mean %{_isa} rather than %{isa} too. Indeed. Is it Monday yet? :p ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Changes to openvrml.spec

2009-09-12 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/12/2009 07:05 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > If and when they do so, then (and ONLY THEN) is it appropriate for you > to have: > > Requires: foo%{isa} Ugh, this should be: Requires: bar%{isa} (as I pointed out, foo%{isa} will always work in modern Fedora (

Re: Changes to openvrml.spec

2009-09-12 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/12/2009 05:45 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > ... it *does* work like I think it works. xulrunner and openjdk are > broken. So, here's the deal. The only Provides which automagically get %{isa} appended to them are the package name autogenerated provides. So, in this spec snippet: Name: foo

Re: Bug buddy and gnomebreakpad

2009-09-10 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/10/2009 06:36 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > should get rid of it. The harder question is where to put that > command... %post for abrt-gui ? :) ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/08/2009 11:10 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > There's a related problem here - glibc32 . I don't think we distribute glibc32. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Rawhide fonts problem report for 2009-09-06

2009-09-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/08/2009 01:50 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le mardi 08 septembre 2009 à 09:11 +0800, Yuan Yijun a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> The package wine-fonts is not mentioned, why? > > Excellent question, it certainly should have been, and I have no idea > why. Maybe it was not present in the source repo I

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/04/2009 03:06 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Also for there to be a security issue, there needs to be an attack > vector, and during early userspace, there is very little attack vector, no > other > programs are running, no network interfaces are up, etc. I suppose this would be somewhat diffic

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 06:14 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > We don't distribute under that clause of the GPL, because the 3 year > timeline on it is entirely too vague and we don't want to fall into that > trap. Ugh. I had conveniently forgotten about that, thanks for the reminder. ~spot -- fedora-devel-lis

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 05:46 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: > The requirement is to provide a written offer to give someone the source > when they ask. Well, that's true for GPL. Can someone generate a list of the binaries used in the generic initrd and the packages that they came from? ~spot -- fedora-deve

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 04:59 PM, Roland McGrath wrote: > Koji's database has that information, sort of. It can tell you exactly > which other packages were installed in the buildroot, so that is the > superset of what-all bits could have been rolled into the output. Yes, but I do not think we are in good

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:25 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Note that we have the same problem with any package which does static > linking against an lgpl library (such as glibc). This is (one of the big reasons) why we only permit static linking with explicit approval from FESCo. I'm really very uncomforta

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 02:20 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Regeneration is as easy with dracut as it is with mkinitrd, actually they > have the same cmdline syntax. > > The only extra step required with dracut when using pre-generated images > is: > yum install dracut Okay, so is there any reason why we don'

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 11:35 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> The kernel binary RPM contains this pre-built initrd. The kernel source >> RPM does not contain the sources necessary to make this pre-built initrd. >> This makes me rather uncomfortable from a Licensing perspective. > > True, but we do provide SRPMS

Re: [PATCH 3/3] dracut has initrd-generic- instead of initrd- (#519185)

2009-09-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/03/2009 10:57 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > It really is like having to support gentoo, versus having to support a > distro using pre build packages. And I would really like to move to the > having to > support a pre-build package model for the initrd. The problem is this: The kernel binary R

Re: [Fedora-packaging] Directory draft (was Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?)

2009-09-02 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/02/2009 11:47 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Michel Alexandre Salim (michael.silva...@gmail.com) said: Multi-ownership seems *far* preferable to me than using triggers to move files around, or moving a prelink-specific directory to the base filesystem package. >>> >>> Then the g

Review needed for libtnc

2009-09-01 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
Hi folks, I need this package reviewed so that I can fix the broken dep on xsupplicant in rawhide: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501017 I'd be happy to do a review trade, just let me know. Thanks, ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.

Re: Commas not allowed in License tags

2009-09-01 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/01/2009 11:53 AM, Iain Arnell wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway > wrote: > [snip] >> >> Yes... this is all correct. Any package that is using commas in the >> license field should have a bug opened against it. > > Un

Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-09-01 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/01/2009 11:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 11:10 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> rpm could start refcounting directories any day now and that'd be just >>> fine. >> >&g

Re: Triggers just to avoid unowned directories?

2009-09-01 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > rpm could start refcounting directories any day now and that'd be just > fine. Is there an open trac ticket on this issue with the RPM upstream? ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/list

Re: Commas not allowed in License tags

2009-09-01 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 09/01/2009 09:42 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hi, > > this has recently come up in a discussion about the License tags of gcc and > mingw32-gcc. The guidelines are very clear here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines#Multiple_Licensing_Scenarios > >> If your package

Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature

2009-08-27 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/27/2009 02:18 PM, Alex Hudson wrote: > I think that's a brilliant idea. > > I'll undertake to do this in the next couple of weeks - I'll work on the > F12 set first, because obviously that's going to be very similar to F13 > anyway. > > Am I ok to re-activate the localisation feature for F1

Re: Page size pain / localisation / possible F13 feature

2009-08-27 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/27/2009 12:11 PM, John J. McDonough wrote: > Alex Hudson wrote: > >> Living in a European milieu I generally prefer my page sizes to be set >> to the likes of A4. One thing which keeps aggravating me is the myriad >> places where I keep having to repeat to the computer my preference. > > An

Re: Policy on removing %changelog entries?

2009-08-27 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/27/2009 01:21 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > What is the policy regarding deletion of individual entries in the > middle of %changelog? > > A developer added a %changelog entry to each of my cloud daemons' > packages, on the main fedora-cvs devel branch of each. > > Then, a day or so later, after

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20090821) FESCo meeting

2009-08-21 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/20/2009 10:10 PM, Jon Stanley wrote: > Apologies for the late agenda, I completely blanked out today :(. The > following are the topics for tomorrow's meeting at 17:00UTC on > #fedora-meeting on freenode: > > 244 Reconsider Moblin Feature for Fedora 12 > 238 Can libvdpau go in Fedora? >

Re: source file audit - 2009-08-10

2009-08-19 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/10/2009 12:15 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > spot:BADSOURCE:chemoelectric_-_Goudy_Bookletter_1.zip:oflb-goudy-bookletter-1911-fonts Not sure why this failed. I confirmed that the .zip file available from the site is identical to the one in the lookaside. > spot:BADSOURCE:daa2iso.zip:daa2iso Fixe

Re: Fedora 12 Features Proposed for Removal

2009-08-19 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/06/2009 04:39 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature >> > owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status or their >> > ability to tested during the Alpha is unclear based on the lack of >> > information provided or

Re: Confusion with openal-soft

2009-08-17 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/17/2009 11:49 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > This would make sense to me. Do consumers of openal not make use of the > pkgconfig files? If not, do they use configure scripts that make it > easy to do this? In the case of my package which uses openal (alienarean), it dlopens the openal libra

Re: No sound in rawhide

2009-08-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/08/2009 06:15 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: I take it known problem already? Have anything to do with the boxes on the panel in the notification area being there instead of the device icons? Don't assume it is a known problem. Search bugzilla to see if you can find the same bug already filed

Re: F-11: system-config-printer --> windows printer --> "You are not authorized to carry out the requested action"

2009-08-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/08/2009 07:52 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 08/08/09 12:53, Gregory Hosler wrote: Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 08/08/09 12:37, Gregory Hosler wrote: The printer is attached to a windows box. At the time of running system-config-printer, the windows box is on. This used

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-08-06 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/05/2009 07:15 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: So if you create a piece of software that can equally link to X or Y, and you never use/distribute X yourself you are simply not within reach of X's licensing terms. If someone else takes your software and X then sticks them on a CD, then they are

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/05/2009 04:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The question is whether Fedora intends to be a distribution suitable for day-to-day general purpose use by people who are not necessarily that interested in Fedora per se - whether it's got an aim to be a general-purpose operating system like other d

Re: KDE vs. GNOME on F10

2009-08-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/05/2009 03:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: The missing bit of the argument from before is whether we actually want to care about people who only want 'stable' updates, and that tracks back to the question of what Fedora actually is, which I don't believe the Board has settled yet. If we don't

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-08-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/05/2009 02:38 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: Apropos, what's the license in case a GPL package links against OpenSSL? GPL with exceptions or what? Or is it even allowed? So, in this specific case, I'm still arguing with Red Hat Legal, and we have not determined our final stance. In the inter

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-08-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 08/04/2009 05:38 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-01 at 12:11 +0100, Tim Waugh wrote: No, please look more closely. The above is a list of packages that *use* or *require* ghostscript, not that link to it. See my most recent contribution to this thread to see the correct list b

Re: License change for ghostscript

2009-08-03 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/31/2009 04:19 PM, Tim Waugh wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 22:47 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: This might cause problems for a bunch of packages. $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ghostscript ghostscript- gtk --qf="%{NAME}: %{LICENSE}" | grep -vP '\bGPL(v3|\S*\+)' | sort

Re: Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC

2009-07-29 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/29/2009 11:12 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > 2009/7/29 Neal Becker : >> The link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community doesn't seem to work with >> konqueror. Just says 'loading' and nothing happens. Works in firefox. > > Confirmed with Konqueror 4.2.98 Hmm. How to put this nicely... Kon

Brainstorming Session for Fedora Community 2.0 - Monday August 3, 2009 - 1500 UTC

2009-07-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
, I will mute everyone. :) Questions about the meeting? Email me. Questions about Fedora Community 2.0? Come to the brainstorming session! Can't make it to the session and want to suggest something? Login to Gobby and add it to our notes before t

Fedora Packaging Committee Seat Filled

2009-07-27 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
Thanks to everyone who applied for this open seat. We got a lot of very qualified individuals who were interested in filling the open seat on the Fedora Packaging Committee. After much discussion and thought, I've asked Jon Ciesla to fill the open seat and he has accepted. I'm sure that we will ha

Re: Announcing 11 packages as orphaned

2009-07-23 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/23/2009 07:07 PM, Michał Bentkowski wrote: > kooldock -- Cool dock for KDE with great visual effects and enhancements Please note this package is dead due to legal reasons. Please leave it that way. ~spot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.co

Re: Purging the F12 orphans

2009-07-21 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/21/2009 12:06 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > On Mon, 2009-07-20 at 20:11 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > [snip] > >> Orphan: pcmanx-gtk2 >> gnash-plugin requires /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins >> gnome-chemistry-utils-mozplugin requires /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins >> java-1.6.0-openjdk-plu

Re: Chromium-3.0.195 fails to start

2009-07-20 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/20/2009 04:24 AM, Thomas Janssen wrote: > You can workaround that multilib/dep issue by installing the > nss-mdns.x86_64 package. And a dependency isn't a bug by the way. The > nss-mdns is as well installed when you install the latest wine builds. No, that dependency actually is a bug becaus

Re: koji build dependencies in cloud computing project?

2009-07-16 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/16/2009 06:36 PM, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:12:30 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> On Thursday 16 July 2009 03:58:37 pm Jeff Garzik wrote: > >>> cld and chunkd built just fine in koji, but tabled does not: it >>> BuildRequires both cld and chunkd. > >> Its not possible

Re: NVR bugs in rawhide

2009-07-15 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/14/2009 10:33 AM, Dennis Gregorovic wrote: > In F11 Everything, there are 211 i386 packages without the dist tag and > just 81 noarch packages without the dist tag. So, it's definitely not > just the noarch packages that aren't using the dist tag. I didn't mean to imply that was the case. I

Re: NVR bugs in rawhide

2009-07-14 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/14/2009 08:48 AM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > %dist should be used always. As the person who invented %dist, I can assure you, this is false. In the specific situation where a new noarch package with relatively static content is being introduced, you have a few options: * Use %dist * Manually e

Re: x86_64 packages depends on i586.

2009-07-10 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/10/2009 05:58 PM, Joshua C. wrote: > I made a custom x86_64 livecd (f11) and found that the following > x86_64 packages depend on i586 and i686. Is this an error when > compiling those packages or they do need the 32 bits? > > mesa-libGL-devel.x86_64 needs > > glibc.i686 > libdrm.i586 >

Open Seat on the Fedora Packaging Committee

2009-07-10 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
The Fedora Packaging Committee has an open seat. Are you interested in helping to decide the packaging standards and guidelines for Fedora? Are you familiar with the inner workings of RPM and its spec file magic? Are you clinically insane? (Well, the last one isn't mandatory, but it helps.) Member

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/08/2009 08:58 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> Case closed. > > No, your argumentation is based on false premises. Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last post. You two need to take this offlist, or simply let this thread stop by agreeing to disagree. This is the last friendly

Re: an update to automake-1.11?

2009-07-08 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/08/2009 01:44 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 07:17:38PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> But, once I do that, you'll abandon this reasoning too, once you realize >>> that it's a non-starter, and change the topic to something else. It'll >>> probably be line number changes. >> N

Re: rawhide report: 20090703 changes

2009-07-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/04/2009 11:16 AM, Pete Zaitcev wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:04:44 +, Rawhide Report > wrote: > >> glibc-2.10.90-2 >> --- >> * Thu Jul 02 2009 Andreas Schwab 2.10.90-2 >> - Update from master. >> >> * Fri Jun 26 2009 Andreas Schwab 2.10.90-1 >> - Update from master. >> -

Re: rawhide report: 20090702 changes

2009-07-02 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 07/02/2009 02:10 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 12:43 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> I'm not sure how distributable the KJV is or isnt' > > It's been out of copyright for some little time, now. Probably.(*) > > * Of course, one could potentially make some quite interestin

Re: [JANITOR] Duplicate directory ownership cleanups

2009-06-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/28/2009 02:51 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 08:06 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > >> The only other packages I intend to touch on this issue are: >> >> (duplicate directory with filesystem) > >> avahi > > avahi is

Re: How user could loose his "CLA done" status?

2009-06-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/28/2009 04:32 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Will I also loose my cla_done membership, once you notice that I removed my > phone number from FAS after I quit the contract for the telephone connection? > Or is it only required to provide a valid phone number at the time cla_done > membership is req

Re: How user could loose his "CLA done" status?

2009-06-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/12/2009 02:11 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote: > If > he legitimately only has one name (I'm sure there have been many special > cases like this), let spot know and he'll make sure to let the CLA go > through. I am aware of exactly one legitimate case of a FAS account where the user had a single word

Re: [JANITOR] Duplicate directory ownership cleanups

2009-06-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/28/2009 08:56 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: >> kde-i18n-Spanish >> kde-l10n-Spanish > > Is this problem limited to Spanish? Those were the only subpackages which showed up as having dual directory ownership, but I was going to look a

Re: [JANITOR] Duplicate directory ownership cleanups

2009-06-28 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/28/2009 07:25 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > I haven't referred to Perl packaging, but the general Packaging and Review > Guidelines. Unfortunately, you decided to cut off what I've quoted from > them. The part I find ambiguous. In my defense, I was focusing on the main guidelines, and the sp

[JANITOR] Duplicate directory ownership cleanups

2009-06-26 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
Hi, I'm Scruffy, the Fedora Janitor. Today (and likely, over the next few days/weeks), I'll be going through and making minor changes to packages in rawhide (and only in rawhide) where there are cases of unnecessary duplicate directory ownership. Please do not be alarmed! As an example example:

Re: Some pulseaudio questions...

2009-06-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/05/2009 06:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Usually running "pulseaudio -v" in a terminal might give you a > hint what might be going wrong. Lennart, Maybe this is a stupid question (you know I am constantly full of them), but is there any way for pulseaudio to detect this "common" co

Re: Interested in scanning?

2009-06-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/05/2009 06:23 AM, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Heya, > > Yesterday, I was browsing Ubuntu's "Blueprints" for their next release, > and saw this: > https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-gnomescan > > gnome-scan is already packaged by Deji, but I gather that more > inte

Re: package review questions

2009-06-05 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/05/2009 02:30 AM, Jan Klepek wrote: > Hi, > > I'm working on unofficial package review for redmine > ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499959 ). > Redmine is written in ruby and is using rubygem-actionwebservice, which > is shipped with redmine. > Rubygem-actionwebservice was

Re: Announcing Fedora Activity Day - Fedora Development Cycle 2009

2009-06-04 Thread Tom "spot"; Callaway
On 06/03/2009 07:48 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Not necessarily. I don't see why the Fedora Project couldn't qualify > as a Sponsored Participant on Internet2 [1]. In fact, Red Hat is > already connected in Raleigh. I think this is because they're technically on NC State University. ~spot -

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