Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-15 Thread chasd
Charles Dostale wrote: MySQL and PostgreSQL come to mind. /etc/yum.conf might have nodowngrade=mysql-server postgresql- server in the default file. Seth Vidal wrote: I have no idea what that would do? just tell the user tough noogies? packagename can't be downgraded because of file

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-15 Thread chasd
Bruno Wolff III wrote: Postgres isn't even updatable. You need to do dumps before doing the upgrade. OK, maybe that isn't a good example then. However, using your comment, and turning my idea around, if PostgreSQL isn't upgradable, according to my idea it should be excluded by default

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread chasd
Seth Vidal wrote: Seriously: yum downgrade and in F12 - try out things like the history undo options. there are lots of potential nasty situations that can happen but I think the general consensus was 'screw it, let the user sort it out if it breaks, which it often does not'

Re: How about releasing an update of xorg-x11-drv-intel for Fedora 11

2009-10-09 Thread chasd
It's Friday, so I'll allow myself to digress - Ilyes Gouta wrote: think that the has_gem thing is exported for X11 and Xv user-space through a GEM ioctl property and it doesn't interfere with the rest of Whenever I see GEM I get weird DOS GUI flashbacks, and they hurt. Couldn't they have

Re: Proposal: Python 3 in Fedora 13

2009-10-02 Thread chasd
Taking a step back to look at a broader picture, what is determined here might be helpful when migrating other packages such as : perl6 php6 java2 ( or whatever Sunacle calls it officially ) ruby2 Although none of those are as central to the operation of Fedora as python, they all will suffer

Re: Possible packages...

2009-09-17 Thread chasd
Adam Williamson wrote: (My thinking is that probably there's going to be a fairly even split between those who want to use a calendaring system from a web front end and those who'd prefer to use it from a desktop app, and unless we cater to both groups, it won't really work; for a