Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Hans Ulrich Niedermann (h...@n-dimensional.de) said: The big issue is with KMS on using radeonhd is like shooting yourself in the face. Either we need to patch radeonhd in Fedora to not start with KMS enabled or remove it from the distro. I am working on such a patch to radeonhd

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-03 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 22:12:00 +0100 Hans Ulrich Niedermann h...@n-dimensional.de wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:20:20 +1000 Dave Airlie airl...@redhat.com wrote: The big issue is with KMS on using radeonhd is like shooting yourself in the face. Either we need to patch radeonhd in Fedora to

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 10:35:52 -0500 Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: [ radeonhd vs radeon ] So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matěj Cepl (mc...@redhat.com) said: Moreover, I don't know what's your problem with radeonhd driver in Fedora. Hanz does IMHO excellent job on maintaining it and it doesn't drag much additional resources on anybody (except on me, perhaps, because I triage bugs for him as well, which is the

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-02 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:20:20 +1000 Dave Airlie airl...@redhat.com wrote: The big issue is with KMS on using radeonhd is like shooting yourself in the face. Either we need to patch radeonhd in Fedora to not start with KMS enabled or remove it from the distro. I am working on such a patch to

Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Dave Airlie (airl...@redhat.com) said: On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 08:07 +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: Well, here's one graphics regression: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=540476 radeon.modeset=0 worked around the problem. (I'm not sure if it's filed against the right

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 12/01/2009 09:35 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If we're trying to focus on quality, I'm not sure why

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Ian Pilcher (arequip...@gmail.com) said: On 12/01/2009 09:35 AM, Bill Nottingham wrote: So, if our X maintainers won't handle bugs with it, we have a working default alternative that is maintained upstream, and it's *known* to be broken in the default configuration, why ship it? If we're

Re: Blocking radeonhd (was Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?)

2009-12-01 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 1.12.2009 21:43, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): If the e1000 driver is broken in the kernel for some people, we don't support shipping an alternate driver. If a new version of the intel graphics driver is broken for some people, we don't support shipping a pre-KMS version of the driver. Why