Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-17 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 08:48 -0700 schrieb Toshio Kuratomi: > On 06/12/2009 08:14 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 05:34 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > >> I don't see what it buys our users if they get one big update over 2 small > >> ones. > > > > In most case

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 20:54 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > What is the status of the automatic signing server? I think we really > > It exists. We aren't using it yet because of quite a few factors. Not quite true. There exists code that allows people to be authorized to sign content, without kno

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On 06/12/2009 08:14 AM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 05:34 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: >> I don't see what it buys our users if they get one big update over 2 small >> ones. > > In most cases the biggest part (consuming time and cpu cycles) of the > updates is not insta

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christoph Wickert wrote: > In most cases the biggest part (consuming time and cpu cycles) of the > updates is not installing them but everything else like checking for new > packages, downloading the metadata, calculating dependencies, > downloading the packages and running the transaction test. Es

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Freitag, den 12.06.2009, 05:34 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Christoph Wickert wrote: > > IMO this is something we should discuss on this list. We need to find a > > fine balance between pushing updates in time to make maintainers happy > > and not too many updates for the users. Maybe something

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Josh Boyer wrote: >> No.  It simply is not possible.  See my (and Luke's) email on how long >> a single push takes. > > Seth says the 22-hour run is a bug. If a run can be done in ~8 hours, that > means an automated update procedure could do ab

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Kevin Kofler
Josh Boyer wrote: > No. It simply is not possible. See my (and Luke's) email on how long > a single push takes. Seth says the 22-hour run is a bug. If a run can be done in ~8 hours, that means an automated update procedure could do about 3 per day. But of course, if it takes one day, then let's

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Luke Macken wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:54:19PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: need it because things need to be predictable for package maintainers. Some updates are processed after a day, others not for two week

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Christoph Wickert wrote: >> IMO this is something we should discuss on this list. We need to find a >> fine balance between pushing updates in time to make maintainers happy >> and not too many updates for the users. Maybe something like >> se

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-12 Thread Luke Macken
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:54:19PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Christoph > Wickert wrote: > > need it because things need to be predictable for package maintainers. > > Some updates are processed after a day, others not for two weeks. > > I'm a bit confused where yo

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-11 Thread Luke Macken
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:37:08PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > I tried to do an updates push earlier this week and it hit some > errors. That needs to be fixed and resumed. I won't be able to get > to this until Sunday at the earliest. If Jesse or Luke want to fix > that up, it might help. I fix

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christoph Wickert wrote: > IMO this is something we should discuss on this list. We need to find a > fine balance between pushing updates in time to make maintainers happy > and not too many updates for the users. Maybe something like > security/urgent updates daily, everything else once or twice a

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-11 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 20:54 -0400 schrieb Josh Boyer: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Christoph > Wickert wrote: > > > > Some updates are processed after a day, others not for two weeks. > > I'm a bit confused where your date is coming from. 2 weeks seems > wrong lately. In fact, sin

Re: Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Josh Boyer: > >> Unfortunately, rawhide has been taking multiple days to spit out. >> Combine that with the fact that the two people that do sign/push for >> updates were both in a FAD thi

Signing server? (Re: Updates testing for F-11)

2009-06-11 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Donnerstag, den 11.06.2009, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Josh Boyer: > Unfortunately, rawhide has been taking multiple days to spit out. > Combine that with the fact that the two people that do sign/push for > updates were both in a FAD this week and you get a bit less response > time. > > I tried to d

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-11 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:44:24 +0530, >  Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> On 06/11/2009 07:39 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: >> > Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: >> > >> >> Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:44:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/11/2009 07:39 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: > > Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > > > >> Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been > >> submitted for F-11 testing are still pending. Any ideas wh

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Bojan Smojver
Rahul Sundaram fedoraproject.org> writes: > They are probably waiting on rel-eng to sign the packages. If you can be > more specific, it would be easier to tell you what the status is. viewvc-1.1.1. Also, it would be good if various apr-util packages (from F-9 to F-11 could be pushed to testing

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/11/2009 07:39 AM, Bojan Smojver wrote: > Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > >> Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been >> submitted for F-11 testing are still pending. Any ideas why that is? > > I meant to say, submitted over a week ago. They are probab

Re: Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Bojan Smojver
Bojan Smojver rexursive.com> writes: > Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been > submitted for F-11 testing are still pending. Any ideas why that is? I meant to say, submitted over a week ago. -- Bojan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redha

Updates testing for F-11

2009-06-10 Thread Bojan Smojver
Maybe I missed something, but it seems that some updates that have been submitted for F-11 testing are still pending. Any ideas why that is? -- Bojan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list