Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Thursday 27 August 2009 19:54:19 Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: 25.08.2009 02:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-27 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthew Woehlke wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: RAM size, There is something wrong with having 1 G of RAM? If so, I haven't yet experienced it. (And that number is only going to go up...) I actually discovered recently that the desktop at home has

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-27 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
25.08.2009 02:07, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather silly. I have seen

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Björn Persson wrote: It would be nice if things could be set up such that kdebase-workspace-akonadi gets installed by default if both kdebase-workspace and akonadi are installed, but not if only one of them is installed. Being able to have a pair of packages require something is a feature

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-26 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/26/2009 06:13 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Björn Persson wrote: It would be nice if things could be set up such that kdebase-workspace-akonadi gets installed by default if both kdebase-workspace and akonadi are installed, but not if only one of them is installed. Being able to have a pair

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: The problem with kdebase-workspace (and kdm) is not disk space. Installing the kdebase-workspace package enables KDE X sessions for users. Well, KDM isn't what adds the KDE session type, kdebase-workspace is. KDM can only be enabled by the admin. That said,

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthew Woehlke wrote: Not on netbooks it isn't! I'd have to buy a new machine to get bigger than the 4 G ssd I currently have. Doesn't that thing even have a cardreader slot or something like that? Then IMHO you made a really bad buying decision... But then again I just hate netbooks

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 14:53 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Matthew Woehlke wrote: Not on netbooks it isn't! I'd have to buy a new machine to get bigger than the 4 G ssd I currently have. Doesn't that thing even have a cardreader slot or something like that? Then IMHO you made a really bad

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:07:48 +0200, Kevin wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-25 Thread Ben Boeckel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Schwendt wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:07:48 +0200, Kevin wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-25 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather silly. I have seen kde-settings,

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather silly. I have seen kde-settings, background packages

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/25/2009 03:37 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: A quick way to actually check for such dependencies is to switch to another desktop environment, say Xfce, remove all the KDE packages and install one of the KDE apps. It usually reveals dependencies which are rather silly. I

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Kofler wrote: It's not like those dependencies bite. ;-) HDD space is cheap. I don't find it scandalous that ktorrent drags in kdebase-workspace nor that kdebase- workspace drags in Akonadi (and thus MySQL, which is a hard requirement of Akonadi) and I'm not sure the current subpackage

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/23/2009 11:18 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Doubtful. How much will that save? - A typical problem with KDE apps is that not only they pull in some KDE libraries, the KDE packages come with lots of additional KDE-specific dependencies. Installing: ktorrent i586

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Rex Dieter
Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 08/23/2009 11:18 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Doubtful. How much will that save? - A typical problem with KDE apps is that not only they pull in some KDE libraries, the KDE packages come with lots of additional KDE-specific dependencies. Installing: ktorrent

gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 14:31:28 +0400, Pavel wrote: 23.08.2009 02:15, Kevin Kofler wrote: Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: My point was different: I want use gwenview but don't always use kdegrapics, wich have big size. So, I often use it in XFCE. But packaging an obsolete

Re: gwenview - Re: Orphaning packages

2009-08-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/23/2009 11:31 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: A torrent client requires a display manager and Qt MySQL? Hmm. Something wrong with dependencies, here. I am sure, we can do better. It grew a dependency on some newer libraries in kdebase-workspace recently, probably some prudent sub-packages