Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:33:16 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > What I'm here for is to gather ideas for how to properly go about > building the mingw32-sha256sum and keeping it around so that when I > extract the sha256sum.exe and upload it to fedoraproject.org we will > have the koji built

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Allen Kistler wrote: > I have the same opinion of signing the page with the hashes. The pages > that list the hashes for F12 are: > > https://fedoraproject.org/static/checksums/Fedora-12-i386-CHECKSUM > https://fedoraproject.org/static/checksums/Fedora-12-x86_64-CHECKSUM > > They are PGP-signed us

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Allen Kistler
Jesse Keating wrote: > Well, if you have to use a tool from the project, to verify other bits > from the project, the verification just became a lot less trusted. If > you don't trust the bits you got from the project, why would you trust > the tool the project gives you to verify the bits? "Here

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jesse Keating wrote: > I agree, I just wanted to point out the catch-22. Heh. I'm sorry if I came off a bit defensive. :) -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3 | URL: www.pobox.com/~tmz/pgp ~~ The most overlooked advantag

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 13:06 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > I believe that providing a sha256sum.exe via https://fp.o/ is surely > an improvement over "Download the .iso and hope it works or check it > with some third-party checksum tool that we can't even hope to > verify." I agree, I just wanted

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote: > The goal is, of course, to verify the .iso against what is listed as > it's sha256sum. Whether the tools ultimately come from the same > source doesn't matter. It should, though, be advisable to not > include the sha246sum.exe on the mirrors, and only serve the file > ov

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jesse Keating wrote: > Well, if you have to use a tool from the project, to verify other > bits from the project, the verification just became a lot less > trusted. If you don't trust the bits you got from the project, why > would you trust the tool the project gives you to verify the bits? > "Her

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
On 11/24/2009 05:25 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 10:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> (I really don't want to maintain the mingw32-sha256sum package for >> Fedora, as it's just a quick and dirty hack to built a small subset of >> of coreutils for Windows.) >> >> Thoughts? > >

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 10:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> Some of you might be aware that the instructions for verifying our >> *-CHECKSUM files on Windows have been broken since we moved to SHA256. >> Previously, we linked users to a sha1s

Re: Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 10:33 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote: > Some of you might be aware that the instructions for verifying our > *-CHECKSUM files on Windows have been broken since we moved to SHA256. > Previously, we linked users to a sha1sum.exe built by the GnuPG > project. With SHA256, we don't

Creating a trusted sha256sum.exe binary for verifying *-CHECKSUM files on Windows

2009-11-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Some of you might be aware that the instructions for verifying our *-CHECKSUM files on Windows have been broken since we moved to SHA256. Previously, we linked users to a sha1sum.exe built by the GnuPG project. With SHA256, we don't have that ability. Fortunately, the good folks working on MingW