Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 09 February 2007 21:57, Eric Rostetter wrote: > > 5. Any news on how long the website will stay up?  Who runs this > > server?  Redhat or someone else? > > AFAIK Jesse does... The server is my personal webhost. The domain is good until the 12th of December, I most likely will not renew

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-10 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 09 February 2007 21:57, Eric Rostetter wrote: > > It's not being re-examined. > > As far as I know, it is still being examined. Yeah, I think I need to get the final OK from the board on the 13 month thing, so that we can stop saying examined. -- Jesse Keating Release Engineer: Fedora

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting "David A. Ranch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It's not being re-examined. As far as I know, it is still being examined. I would change that line to say "The FedoraLegacy Project has shutdown and has ceiesed offering any RPM updates for all legacy Redhat and FedoraCore distributions. Please

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread David A. Ranch
Done. I've removed most unneeded pages, posted notices on most of the main pages left, and put a modified version of the suggested FAQ on the front page. 1. On the front page just below the red frame, it says: -- The current model for supporting maintenance distributions is being re-examin

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Anyway.. Jesse: could you post any version of this FAQ to the Legacy website? I sent this FAQ out to a few email lists last night and several people were also caught off guard by this news. They did know something was up as their Yum repositories were

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting "David A. Ranch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm betting if there was a reason to keep them alive, the funding would be found without any problem... But the sad truth is, there is no way to justify spending the money on them, as there is no real value to them. They lost their value when the p

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 09 February 2007 15:29, David A. Ranch wrote: > What I'm really curious on is how CentOS can/will erode RHEL revenue.   > It's the *same* code but no Redhat support.  I still help out on a few > educational servers and the Academic RHEL version offers -zero- support > so we're basically p

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: No, it's not the same. Opensource works because a lot of people like working on creating new code and improving existing code. Maintaining old code is just not fun/glamorous work. Yet people do it without a paycheck. Why? Either because they have

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread David A. Ranch
>I'm betting if there was a reason to keep them alive, the funding would >be found without any problem... But the sad truth is, there is no >way to justify spending the money on them, as there is no real value >to them. They lost their value when the project shutdown. I personally find valu

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 09 February 2007 15:14, Eric Rostetter wrote: > > Without motivation like a paycheck, it is difficult to get people > > interested in doing the work. > > This is the same as saying Opensource can't work...  Freeware will never > catch on...  Altruism doesn't exist.  People only do things

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Jesse Keating <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Friday 09 February 2007 14:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Is funding really a issue? Unless you mean putting full time Red Hat employees on it, I dont see it as major problem. Without motivation like a paycheck, it is difficult to get people interested

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 09 February 2007 14:51, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Is funding really a issue? Unless you mean putting full time Red Hat > employees on it, I dont see it as major problem. Without motivation like a paycheck, it is difficult to get people interested in doing the work. So funding, in that fo

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
David A. Ranch wrote: Q. Why is the FedoraLegacy project shutting down? A. A combination of reasons: - A lack of community members that actually contributed to patches, testing, deployment, etc. - A lack of funding Is funding really a issue? Unless you mean putting full time Red Hat

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
David A. Ranch wrote: >I would like the mirrorlist to stay if that's possible. Maybe change >it to say that there is no guarantee they are still up and serving FL >repo's. I've already saved a local copy, so it's not really for me, >but someone else might just find it very useful. Agree

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread David A. Ranch
>I would like the mirrorlist to stay if that's possible. Maybe change >it to say that there is no guarantee they are still up and serving FL >repo's. I've already saved a local copy, so it's not really for me, >but someone else might just find it very useful. Agreed and I also saved a co

Re: New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-09 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
David A. Ranch wrote: After the IRC conversations I had today with "F13", here is a proposed FAQ for the top level http://fedoralegacy.org/ site. Please change all instances of Centos to CentOS. Issues : 3. Maybe it would be best to strip out all content off the site and only hav

New proposed top level FAQ for the defunct FedoraLegacy project

2007-02-08 Thread David A. Ranch
After the IRC conversations I had today with "F13", here is a proposed FAQ for the top level http://fedoralegacy.org/ site. --David Fedora Core Legacy Shutdown FAQ: 02/08/07 Q. Why is the FedoraLegacy project shutting down? A. A combination of reasons: