Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-12-01 Thread David D. Eisenstein
Jesse Keating wrote: On Thursday 30 November 2006 10:32, Matthew Miller wrote: Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an official decision will be made? I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. Any chance that

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-12-01 Thread Jesse Keating
On Friday 01 December 2006 18:58, David D. Eisenstein wrote: I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. Any chance that others involved with Fedora Legacy in addition to you might be able to be involved in those discussions, Jesse? Unfortunately it is

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:55, Matthew Miller wrote: Is the 13-month lifespan for Core (i.e. merged Legacy) accepted as official? That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the approval of Red Hat management. We hope it does, and if it does (and if Legacy and

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Axel Thimm
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:12:53AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:55, Matthew Miller wrote: Is the 13-month lifespan for Core (i.e. merged Legacy) accepted as official? That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the approval of Red

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Axel Thimm wrote: If some statement from legacy is needed about FC3/FC4 before that decision is made (which IMHO is needed), how about something along a heading of Fedora Legacy is ending its current support model working towards direct involvement in maintenance of upcoming Fedora

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Rex Dieter
Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs? -- Rex -- fedora-legacy-list mailing list

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Tony Molloy
On Thursday 30 November 2006 14:59, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: I think it's sad Fedora Legacy seems to be ending a little prematurely, but I totally understand that the people that were carrying this dying beast have decided to just put it down and let it be. Unfortunately I will have to

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 09:11:52AM -0600, Rex Dieter wrote: Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs? That's the case here

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:12:53AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: That honestly depends on if releasing core to the outside world gets the approval of Red Hat management. We hope it does, and if it does (and if Legacy and FESCO agrees) than the 13month will fall into effect. So it hasn't

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thursday 30 November 2006 10:32, Matthew Miller wrote: Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an official decision will be made? I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. -- Jesse Keating RHCE

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 10:35:44AM -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: Everyone's pretty much talking like this is a done deal. Any idea when an official decision will be made? I'm involved in discussions with RH management this week, and probably next week. Okay, thanks for the update. --

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Rex Dieter wrote: Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs? Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running.

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:40:55PM +0100, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running. Or am I misunderstanding the 13 months of support somehow? FC3 was released on November 8 2004. Also, FC4 (I don't have any FC4 machines) was released on

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Nils Breunese (Lemonbit)
Op 30-nov-2006, om 17:11 heeft Matthew Miller het volgende geschreven: On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 04:40:55PM +0100, Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: Not for that couple of FC3 machines my clients have running. Or am I misunderstanding the 13 months of support somehow? FC3 was released on

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 11/30/06, Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nils Breunese (Lemonbit) wrote: Unfortunately I will have to be migrating our last Fedora servers over to CentOS even sooner now... I take it, then, that extending Fedora's (supported) life-cycle to 13+ mos isn't sufficient for your needs?

nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread David Eisenstein
Benjamin Smith wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 01:20, Florian La Roche wrote: Interest in Fedora Legacy has slowed down. You can find some FC4 updates at http://www.jur-linux.org/rpms/fc-updates/4/ , but some updates will probably also soon show up at http://fedoralegacy.org/ I can see

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:26:12PM -0600, David Eisenstein wrote: I wish I could do more. But really, I don't know that that wish is realistic. Does anyone else wish more could be done? Or do we just kill the project? Well, as I've said, I wish more could be done, but I can't really do it.

RE: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Russ Lavoie
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of the Fedora Legacy Project Subject: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates Benjamin Smith wrote: On Saturday 18 November 2006 01:20, Florian La Roche wrote: Interest in Fedora Legacy has slowed down. You can find some FC4 updates at http://www.jur-linux.org/rpms/fc

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Axel Thimm
On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 02:29:28PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Nov 29, 2006 at 01:26:12PM -0600, David Eisenstein wrote: I wish I could do more. But really, I don't know that that wish is realistic. Does anyone else wish more could be done? Or do we just kill the project?

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 03:33:59AM +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: I would rephrase it in a positive way: Legacy is merged with Core and Extras under one umbrella redefining EOL time marks. E.g. there is a shorter total lifespan, but during that lifespan there is more manpower assigned to get timely

Re: nails in coffins? Re: Openssl updates

2006-11-29 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 21:58, Matthew Miller wrote: Okay, what more do we need to make it official? Webpage changes to note our wrapup, reporting to the Fedora Board regarding our project status, postings to fedora-announce-list, and then watching the flames roll in. -- Jesse Keating