Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 10:49 PM > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:16 -0700, Antonio Olivares

Re: DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:38 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following > record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: > > $TTL 172800 > @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( > 1 ; serial >

Re: radeon + laptop/external monitor (through docking station) problem

2008-06-18 Thread kewlemer
On 6/18/08, Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:08 AM, kewlemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 6/17/08, Alex Deucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:58 AM, kewlemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > > My set up is basically a lapt

Re: I want to ask something

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Chalmers
> > Dear all, > > I am new in linux. Can anyone help? I have installed FC5 in the linux but > as > > it is very old, can anyone let me know how could I install the FC8 or FC9 > > directly from the net. Yes you can install over a network. You download the boot.iso from one of the mirrors, burn i

Re: F8 k3b problem or just random glitch?

2008-06-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 18 June 2008 22:44:39 Gene Heskett wrote: > Anne suggested setting it so it doesn't eject, but then the drive generally > has no clue about how to access the disk, so that fails also. Your problem may be different from mine, then. All I know is that I burned just one DVD after I cha

Re: A question for the open source people

2008-06-18 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:47 -0700, Michael Harpe wrote: > What I have always been curious about is this: how many of you > actually take advantage of the open source? In other words, how many > of you really take the source code and do something with it? I haven't much. I have hacked around with

Re: I want to ask something

2008-06-18 Thread Jonathan Roberts
2008/6/19 Parshwa Murdia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Dear all, > I am new in linux. Can anyone help? I have installed FC5 in the linux but as > it is very old, can anyone let me know how could I install the FC8 or FC9 > directly from the net. Hi, If you have quite a fast connection, then you could do

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread g
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: company, that FF is for legal purposes a commercial product (even if i do believe that there is a lot of lack of understanding in use of word 'commercial' thru this posting. i believe in this case, 'commercial' is used to indicate that product is 'in public hands', v

I want to ask something

2008-06-18 Thread Parshwa Murdia
Dear all, I am new in linux. Can anyone help? I have installed FC5 in the linux but as it is very old, can anyone let me know how could I install the FC8 or FC9 directly from the net. Parshwa -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo

Re: Fedora 9 installation

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 11:18 +0530, Sriram Ramaswamy wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am a total newbie to Linux (less than a week) and open source and I > began my experiments with Fedora and I have to admit its one very cool > system. > > My problems began with trying to install the Fedora core 9 64 bit

Re: Deleting all messages of a collapsed thread in thunderbird

2008-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running F9 with thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc9.i386 and have the following question: Is it possible to delete all me

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Ric Moore
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:16 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Red Hat does not charge for the software, they charge for the services > that they provide. At least that is what I have been told many many > times. So now Firefox is not free anymore :(, is that what you are > saying. Opera is Free/

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:16 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > 2) Being commercial doesn't mean not being free. RedHat > > and others make > > money from free software. > Red Hat does not charge for the software, they charge for the services > that they provide. At least that is what I have been t

Fedora 9 installation

2008-06-18 Thread Sriram Ramaswamy
Hi Guys, I am a total newbie to Linux (less than a week) and open source and I began my experiments with Fedora and I have to admit its one very cool system. My problems began with trying to install the Fedora core 9 64 bit version. The anaconda installer identifies my Nvidia Ge Force card perfec

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Ric Moore
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 12:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:34 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > /***/ > > 8. U.S. GOVERNMENT END-USERS. This Product is a "commercial item," as > > that term is defined

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread John Priddy
ssh doesnt really have anything to do with ssl vpn or vpn in general for that matter. im not sure i fully understand what your asking, but yes, you can tunnel traffic through ssh to other ports. see the -L option of ssh. of course the ssh port will have to be both open and forwarded from the rou

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 00:14 -0400, John Priddy wrote: > Oh, forgot to mention -- if your vendor is on this list, try using > 'vpnc': > > http://www.vpnc.org/member-list.html > > http://www.vpnc.org/ > > > There should be howtos on this all over the web. > > > I'm just curious and maybe co

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread John Priddy
Oh, forgot to mention -- if your vendor is on this list, try using 'vpnc': http://www.vpnc.org/member-list.html http://www.vpnc.org/ There should be howtos on this all over the web. On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 00:09 -0400, John Priddy wrote: > The short answer: > Talk to your IT staff first to see

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread John Priddy
The short answer: Talk to your IT staff first to see what kind of solution they are using and if its possible to use a third party client, if so will they even provide you the shared key, group name, etc. There are some reverse engineering ways of determining some of these depending on versions/ve

Re: Sound doesn't work after suspend/hibernate Fedora 9

2008-06-18 Thread Endy
Matt Morgan wrote: When I boot my computer all the way up, sound works fine. When I return from suspend or hibernate, sound is gone. I don't get any obvious error messages, I just don't hear anything. It's Fedora 9, i386, on an intel board with integrated Intel sound. Any ideas/suggestions?

Re: A question for the open source people

2008-06-18 Thread Mike
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Frank Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:47:29 -0700 (PDT) > Michael Harpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What I have always been curious about is this: how many of you actually > take advantage of the open source? In other words, how many of

Sound doesn't work after suspend/hibernate Fedora 9

2008-06-18 Thread Matt Morgan
When I boot my computer all the way up, sound works fine. When I return from suspend or hibernate, sound is gone. I don't get any obvious error messages, I just don't hear anything. It's Fedora 9, i386, on an intel board with integrated Intel sound. Any ideas/suggestions? Thanks, Matt -- fedora

Re: A question for the open source people

2008-06-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Michael Harpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I have always been curious about is this: how many of you actually take > advantage of the open source? In other words, how many of you really take the > source code and do something with it? In terms of ac

Re: A question for the open source people

2008-06-18 Thread Todd Zullinger
Michael Harpe wrote: > What I have always been curious about is this: how many of you > actually take advantage of the open source? In other words, how many > of you really take the source code and do something with it? > > Personally I don't. I can program in C, i'm pretty good at it. I've > just

A question for the open source people

2008-06-18 Thread Michael Harpe
What I have always been curious about is this: how many of you actually take advantage of the open source? In other words, how many of you really take the source code and do something with it? Personally I don't. I can program in C, i'm pretty good at it. I've just never felt the need to alter

Re: How to use FIND/GREP for files with multiple tags

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: How to use FIND/GREP for files with multiple tags > To: "For users of Fedora-List" > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 5:33 PM > I am trying to use the find command to locate m

Re: How to use FIND/GREP for files with multiple tags

2008-06-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Daniel B. Thurman writes: I am trying to use the find command to locate multiple files with different tags. How can I do this? I tried something like: 1) find . -type f -name '*.wav' -name '*.mp3' -name '*.ogg' But that won't work find . -type f \( -name '*.wav' -o -name '*.mp3' -o -na

How to use FIND/GREP for files with multiple tags

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
I am trying to use the find command to locate multiple files with different tags. How can I do this? I tried something like: 1) find . -type f -name '*.wav' -name '*.mp3' -name '*.ogg' But that won't work 2) find . -type f -name '*' | grep -iH '{.wav,.mp3,.ogg}' But that won't work. Pl

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 2:11 PM > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 13:48 -0700, Antonio Olivares w

Re: F8 k3b problem or just random glitch?

2008-06-18 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:23:28 -0400 Gene Heskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I personally am not inclined to blame it on the > kernel unless some error message was changed and whatever k3b uses to keep > track of that stuff is now getting an answer it doesn't like or doesn't know > how to trans

Re: How do I force the SATA drive to be /dev/sda when IDE drive is present?

2008-06-18 Thread reikred
g wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an F7 system that has both a SATA drive and occasionally an IDE drive connected to it. The problem is that when the IDE drive is connected, the system will make IDE=/dev/sda and SATA=/dev/sdb, and screw up my boot process. if you boot a rescue disk, s

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Knute Johnson wrote: So I'm looking at my gdm login screen now and I don't seen any button or option to select another session. Is there another package that I need besides the groupinstall XFCE that I already did. No. Again, make sure you have done a groupinstall(xfc

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Knute Johnson wrote: So I'm looking at my gdm login screen now and I don't seen any button or option to select another session. Is there another package that I need besides the groupinstall XFCE that I already did. No. Again, make sure you have done a groupinstall(xfce4-session package mus

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread Rick Bilonick
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:58 -0300, Itamar - IspBrasil wrote: > openvpn > > > Rick Bilonick wrote: > > Could some one point me in the right direction for installing and using > > ssl vpn? I've been using ssh to connect to my server but now it's going > > to be behind a firewall that uses ssl vpn

Re: F8 k3b problem or just random glitch?

2008-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Tom Horsley wrote: >>>I left a DVD-R being written by K3B, and when I came back >>>later, it said the verify failed because there were >>>no tracks to verify. >> >> That is because the verify phase of k3

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Knute Johnson wrote: I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? If you have installed the sessions package, it should show up. Make sure you have done a complete install

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Rahul Sundaram wrote: Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 14:13 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? that's been discussed...apparently gdm doesn't

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 14:13 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? that's been discussed...apparently gdm doesn't have the session switche

Re: recent kernel upgrades damage mbr

2008-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >>> This is not going to help, because the old MBR will be pointing to >>> the wrong location for stage 1.5, so you will get an error on boot. >>> Remember, the part o

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 14:13 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? that's been discussed...apparently gdm doesn't have the session switche

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 14:13 -0700, Knute Johnson wrote: > I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not > option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? that's been discussed...apparently gdm doesn't have the session switcher but kdm does...

Re: How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Knute Johnson wrote: I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? If you have installed the sessions package, it should show up. Make sure you have done a complete installlation by running # y

How do I login to XFCE?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
I installed F9 on my laptop and then yummed up XFCE. There is not option on the gdm login screen to changes sessions. How does it work in F9? Thanks, -- Knute Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: recent kernel upgrades damage mbr

2008-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Maurizio Marini wrote: >On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: >> While we're on the subject of mbr's, how big is it? The first 512 bytes >> of the one I just saved is virtually empty. So I overwrote it with a 4kb >> version, b but that is bearing some resemblan

Re: How do I force the SATA drive to be /dev/sda when IDE drive is present?

2008-06-18 Thread g
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an F7 system that has both a SATA drive and occasionally an IDE drive connected to it. The problem is that when the IDE drive is connected, the system will make IDE=/dev/sda and SATA=/dev/sdb, and screw up my boot process. if you boot a rescue disk, select to m

Re: F8 k3b problem or just random glitch?

2008-06-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Michael Schwendt wrote: >On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:07:45 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> That is because the verify phase of k3b will not wait till the drive has >> recognized the disk after the eject cycle, so it errors out. I have >> squawked about that on the k3b bz, to no

Re: Firefox 3?

2008-06-18 Thread Remi Collet
Wong Kwok-hon a écrit : Any plans to build for F8? Yes, would any plans to build for Fedora 8 ? A backport of F9 RPM is available on my little repo. http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2008/06/18/Firefox-3-Final Feel free to try it ++ P.S : FC6, F7 and F8, i386, x86_64 and ppc available

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 13:48 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Steve Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Steve Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "For users of Fedora" > > Date: Wednesday, Ju

Re: F9 breaking Galeon 2.0.5 -- sometimes

2008-06-18 Thread Beartooth Sciurivore
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:07:49 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Beartooth; > > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 19:44 +, Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: >> On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:30:57 +, Beartooth wrote: >> >> >Under Fedora 9 (but no earlier release, iirc) Galeon 2.0.5 >> > crashes on launch if there

Re: recent kernel upgrades damage mbr

2008-06-18 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 17:19 +0200, Maurizio Marini wrote: > On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > While we're on the subject of mbr's, how big is it? The first 512 bytes of > > the one I just saved is virtually empty. So I overwrote it with a 4kb > > version, b but that is bearing

Re: SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread Itamar - IspBrasil
openvpn Rick Bilonick wrote: Could some one point me in the right direction for installing and using ssl vpn? I've been using ssh to connect to my server but now it's going to be behind a firewall that uses ssl vpn for connections. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat

SSL VPN

2008-06-18 Thread Rick Bilonick
Could some one point me in the right direction for installing and using ssl vpn? I've been using ssh to connect to my server but now it's going to be behind a firewall that uses ssl vpn for connections. Rick B. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Steve Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Steve Searle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "For users of Fedora" > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 12:51 PM > Around 07:14pm on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 (UK

Re: F9 Xorg update seems slower

2008-06-18 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 19:32 -0400, Louis E Garcia II wrote: > I just realized I do not have /dev/drm/* is this the same with you? > I'm thinking a udev problem. Nope, don't have that here. Scrolling and general desktop stuff is definitely slower now than several days ago. Something is obviously

Re: F9 breaking Galeon 2.0.5 -- sometimes

2008-06-18 Thread William Case
Hi Beartooth; On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 19:44 +, Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:30:57 +, Beartooth wrote: > > > Under Fedora 9 (but no earlier release, iirc) Galeon 2.0.5 > > crashes on launch if there is a tab open to certain sites. > Mine does the same thing in ep

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Steve Searle
Around 07:14pm on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 (UK time), Antonio Olivares scrawled: > Aren't we all part of the U.S Government? We pay taxes. Our No we aren't. Steve (Muttering and humming Rule Britania) -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-p

Re: F9 breaking Galeon 2.0.5 -- sometimes

2008-06-18 Thread Beartooth Sciurivore
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:30:57 +, Beartooth wrote: > Under Fedora 9 (but no earlier release, iirc) Galeon 2.0.5 > crashes on launch if there is a tab open to certain sites. Correction -- it does that on my #2 machine; I have just upgraded #1 to F9, and not (yet, perhaps) seen the

galeon not working after firefox final update

2008-06-18 Thread Janez Košmrlj
after i updated firefok to 3.0 final galeon stoped working if i run it from terminal i get ** (galeon:22136): CRITICAL **: radio_group_set_from_value: assertion `action != NULL' failed -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fed

Re: Partitioning question

2008-06-18 Thread Beartooth Sciurivore
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:52:07 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: >> Both show /dev/sda1 with 196 MB, labelled /boot -- and /dev/sda2 >> (all the rest, 74 GB) with an unknown file system! Gparted offers a >> warning about that. >> >> Last time I saw a partiti

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Patrick O'Callaghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 9:54 AM > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:34 -0700, Antonio Olivares w

Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)

2008-06-18 Thread Alan Cox
> Yeah, exactly. And if you buy in the next 4 hours, we'll include a > fantastic solar powered clothes dryer. Careful - there are sound useful reasons for solar powered clothes driers that go via electricity or steam first. Alan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:34 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > /***/ > 8. U.S. GOVERNMENT END-USERS. This Product is a "commercial item," as > that term is defined in 48 C.F.R. 2.101, consisting of "commercial > computer software" an

Re: totally offtopic (race to make car that runs on tap water)

2008-06-18 Thread Alan Cox
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:30:01 +0200 "Valent Turkovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://digg.com/environment/Race_hots_up_to_produce_the_first_car_running_on_tap_water > > Please check this out and digg it... also see the links in the digg comments. Sorry what does this silly idea have to do wi

Pidgin hangs

2008-06-18 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
Hi all, Anybody with the same problem? This is the output of the strace. read(3, 0x146b7c4, 4096)= -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6, events=POLLIN}, {fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=13, events=POLLIN}, {fd=7

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:50 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > The portion of a process' code that is to be executed must be in RAM, > along with any data structures it may need (unless they're the > un-mmap(2)d parts of files). If there is inadequate contiguous space > in RAM, idle processes will be sw

Re: Howto breakdown ape with cue files?

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Daniel B. Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a tool that can automatically breakdown > ape with provided cue files into it's respective > components? With mac (you can find this, e.g., in the FreshRpms repository), you can convert

Re: Deleting all messages of a collapsed thread in thunderbird

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 13:04 -0400, John Burton wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, I'm running F9 with thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1

Re: Auto login?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Knute Johnson wrote: Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Knute Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Knute Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Auto login? To: "For users of Fedora" Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 10:38 PM On F8 I had my desktop configured for auto-login. Does F9 h

Re: Renaming a User

2008-06-18 Thread Thom Paine
Prollie just as easy to create a new account and then move stuff. I am wanting to move to LDAP, but haven't got that figured out yet.And by moving I just meant copying the documents to a common folder, and then back into the users documents folder. Exporting email and reimporting under the new acco

Re: Deleting all messages of a collapsed thread in thunderbird

2008-06-18 Thread John Burton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running F9 with thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc9.i386 and have the following question: Is it possible to delete all me

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 11:06 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > OK; but then there's something else I don't know, or don't > > understand. Does a Fedora machine do any swapping while it has > memory > > left? I didn't think I had (or needed) any control at all over > swapping, > > beyond

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread Rick Stevens
Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:58:47 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: [...] Otoh, I've never gotten anywhere near filling up a hard drive, except once when I had a testbed machine triple booting three different distros. So why c

Re: Deleting all messages of a collapsed thread in thunderbird

2008-06-18 Thread rlengland
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 9:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running F9 with thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc9.i386 and have the following question: Is it possible to delete all messages of a thread, which

Re: DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Howard Wilkinson wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Howard Wilkinson wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following > record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: > > $TTL 172800 > @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( >

Re: Partitioning question

2008-06-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: I'm on a machine (my #1) that I just upgraded yesterday from F8 to F9. I opened both gparted and qtparted, to get a look at what partitioning I have now, in hope of finding room for a second swap partition. Both show /dev/sda1 with 196 MB, labelled /boot -- and /

Re: DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Howard Wilkinson wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following > record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: > > $TTL 172800 > @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( >1 ; ser

Re: Deleting all messages of a collapsed thread in thunderbird

2008-06-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 15:21 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm running F9 with thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc9.i386 and have the following question: Is it possible to delete all messages of a thread, which is collapsed, without opening the thread? Try this: close

RE: Partitioning question

2008-06-18 Thread Hiren Joshi
I believe lvm (and lvm2) as well as raided partitions show up as unknown with Gparted, could this be the issue? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beartooth Sciurivore Sent: 18 June 2008 17:21 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Partitioning

Partitioning question

2008-06-18 Thread Beartooth Sciurivore
I'm on a machine (my #1) that I just upgraded yesterday from F8 to F9. I opened both gparted and qtparted, to get a look at what partitioning I have now, in hope of finding room for a second swap partition. Both show /dev/sda1 with 196 MB, labelled /boot -- and /dev/sda2 (all

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3

2008-06-18 Thread Eric Mesa
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:42 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This has to mean that Fedora will need to develop a free browser > Or they could use one of the already-free browsers such as Epiphany or Galeon. I use Epiphany for all of my day-to-day browsing. The only "downside" is that it's not

Re: Using Apache as proxy in port-forwarding role (inward to misbehaving NATted devices)

2008-06-18 Thread Philip Prindeville
Matthew J. Roth wrote: Cameron Simpson wrote: It does help if the internal device doesn't embed absolute URLs in its web page output (which it may not, even if it looks like it superficially). ... If the internal devices are embedding absolute URLs in their HREF links you may need to run, addi

Re: Renaming a User

2008-06-18 Thread Thom Paine
Prollie just as easy to create a new account and then move stuff. I am wanting to move to LDAP, but haven't got that figured out yet.And by moving I just meant copying the documents to a common folder, and then back into the users documents folder. Exporting email and reimporting under the new acco

Re: DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Howard Wilkinson wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following > record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: > > $TTL 172800 > @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( >1 ; serial >3H

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: OK; but then there's something else I don't know, or don't understand. Does a Fedora machine do any swapping while it has memory left? I didn't think I had (or needed) any control at all over swapping, beyond choosing how much space to afford it. What I have see

Re: Auto login?

2008-06-18 Thread Knute Johnson
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Knute Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Knute Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Auto login? To: "For users of Fedora" Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 10:38 PM On F8 I had my desktop configured for auto-login. Does F9 have that option and w

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread Beartooth Sciurivore
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:58:47 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Beartooth Sciurivore wrote: [...] >> Otoh, I've never gotten anywhere near filling up a hard drive, >> except once when I had a testbed machine triple booting three different >> distros. So why can't I at least increase

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: "For users of Fedora" > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 8:44 AM > On Wednesday 18 June 2008 16:37:06 Tim wrote: > > > google claims tha

Re: How do I force the SATA drive to be /dev/sda when IDE drive is present?

2008-06-18 Thread reikred
Richard Shaw wrote: 2008/6/18 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: The kernel assigns SCSI device names in the order it finds them from searching the hardware. That's usually the boot device first. Check to see if you can change the boot order in your BIOS, that u

Re: Renaming a User

2008-06-18 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 11:44 -0400, Thom Paine wrote: > I was wondering if it's possible to quickly and easily switch a > username on a samba controlled domain. I have a user who got married > and I need to change her login from sgillies to scampbell. Is there a > quick way I could do this, or do I

Renaming a User

2008-06-18 Thread Thom Paine
I was wondering if it's possible to quickly and easily switch a username on a samba controlled domain. I have a user who got married and I need to change her login from sgillies to scampbell. Is there a quick way I could do this, or do I need to create a new user and then copy her data over? I've b

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Wednesday 18 June 2008 16:37:06 Tim wrote: > > google claims that they're not going to do anything with the data, but > > there's nothing to stop them if they do. > > Like we believe that... (about a company who's stated aim was to > database everything).  I think it's more of a concern what the

Re: DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Howard Wilkinson
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: $TTL 172800 @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( 1 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M

Re: How do I force the SATA drive to be /dev/sda when IDE drive is present?

2008-06-18 Thread Richard Shaw
2008/6/18 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Kevin J. Cummings wrote: >> >> The kernel assigns SCSI device names in the order it finds them from >> searching the hardware. That's usually the boot device first. Check to see >> if you can change the boot order in your BIOS, that usually hel

Re: F8 k3b problem or just random glitch?

2008-06-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Tom Horsley wrote: >>I left a DVD-R being written by K3B, and when I came back >>later, it said the verify failed because there were >>no tracks to verify. > > That is because the verify phase of k3b will not wait till the drive has > recognized th

DNS: Question about setting abc.com record

2008-06-18 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
I have several DNS servers and wondered if the following record entry is properly set for all of my DNS servers: $TTL 172800 @IN SOA ns1.abc.com. admin.abc.com. ( 1 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry

RE: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 08:13 -0700, bruce wrote: > the issue of the FF security measures (and others) is that the data on > the URLs you visit might go back to a 3rd party company (IE google), > > google claims that they're not going to do anything with the data, but > there's nothing to stop them

Re: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3.

2008-06-18 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 6/18/08, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Fedora ain't playin' around w/Firefox 3. > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 3:18 AM > This is new > > http://fedoraproject.org/static/firefox/ > > I wonder what brou

Re: Upgrade from 8 to 9: Yes or no ?

2008-06-18 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:31:49 +0200, Martin Schoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello , > > silly - I know ;-) I have a Fedora 8 installation which runs perfectly > - with webserver as Intranet with many modules -- runs without any problems. I think that answers your question. You don't appe

Re: recent kernel upgrades damage mbr

2008-06-18 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 18 June 2008, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: This is not going to help, because the old MBR will be pointing to the wrong location for stage 1.5, so you will get an error on boot. Remember, the part of GRub that is in the MBR loads from a fixed disk location. It does

Re: Memory, swap, and limits

2008-06-18 Thread James Kosin
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: James Kosin wrote: Having TOO much swap space can be a detriment and not an asset. Usually, the rule of thumb I go by is allocate about 2x the amount of physical memory installed on the system; for machines with < 1M. This number will need to approach more or less

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