Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 as parting thoughts, go thru 'configure kate' to see just what is set. 'r & r'. use yum to remove and replace. you may have a squirreled install. you never know until you try... - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gate

Re: fdisk and labels

2008-10-17 Thread gary artim
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Trapper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somewhere along the line I saw a small script that provides a display of > label information as a part of "fdisk -l" results. My searches have proved > fruitless. Anyone recall such a script? > > -- > fedora-list mailing list >

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Rick Stevens
Kevin Kofler wrote: Rick Stevens nerd.com> writes: you really need to run 0.9.8h or 0.9.8i because of security issues. No you don't. The only security advisory released after 0.9.8g is this: http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20080528.txt (There's another one on their site, but that's for ope

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:00 PM, g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Aldo Foot wrote: > >> I did tried that, but no dice; the cursor becomes completely inactive. > > what do you mean by 'completely inactive'? It means I cannot type anything at the pr

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rick Stevens nerd.com> writes: > you really need to run 0.9.8h or 0.9.8i because of security issues. No you don't. The only security advisory released after 0.9.8g is this: http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20080528.txt (There's another one on their site, but that's for openssl-fips, not openssl

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 05:42:49PM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: > Ian Burrell wrote, On 10/17/2008 02:40 PM: >> Todd Denniston ssa.crane.navy.mil> writes: >>> 1) you don't need to call hwclock while NTP is running to keep the >>> hardware clock synced to system time, the kernel hackers "helpfully

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aldo Foot wrote: > I did tried that, but no dice; the cursor becomes completely inactive. what do you mean by 'completely inactive'? when 'terminal emulators' on my systems become 'inactive', by changing to a different window, or as in your case, ch

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Andras Simon gmail.com> writes: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines That's the process for new packages, not for updates to existing ones. Updates don't have to get reviewed, but they have to be careful about not bre

Re: How to talk ethernet to windows

2008-10-17 Thread Bob Kinney
--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Kevin Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Kevin Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: How to talk ethernet to windows > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:08 PM > Colin Paul Adams wrote:

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 3:15 PM, g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Aldo Foot wrote: >> --Move the Terminal >> Right-click on the Terminal icon on the lower sidebar and >> select "Left Sidebar" to place the terminal on the left >> side. At this

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Markku Kolkka wrote: > There's a lack of trust, not lack of certification. Those are two > different things when talking about the GPG/PGP "web of trust" > certification scheme. You haven't specified the level of trust that > you have on the keys used to certify the Fedora signing key. Setting the

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Marc Schwartz
"Andras Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 10/17/08, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm waiting for gimp2.6, kernel 2.6.27 and open-office 3.0. If I am not >> mistaken, there are a couple evolution releases that haven't been >> accepted either. >> >> All of these packages have bee

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aldo Foot wrote: > --Move the Terminal > Right-click on the Terminal icon on the lower sidebar and > select "Left Sidebar" to place the terminal on the left > side. At this point the cursor may or may not become a little if cursor place indicato

Re: #ifdef __USE_GNU in /usr/include/bits/socket.h in F9 vs F8

2008-10-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 10:57 -0700, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > I don't see the reason for this change since all it does is eliminate > > the ucred structure definition without defining any replacement. > > This has nothing to do with replacing it. The #ifdef is need

Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Alessandro Boggiano
Antonio M ha scritto: 2008/10/17 Arch Willingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: DVD are not going to be seen any more??? Bill, still there Ciao Antonio, a simply fast search on google is pointing me to: http://rpmforge.net/user/packages/libdvdcss/ Please, don't forget laws are different from con

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Todd Denniston
Ian Burrell wrote, On 10/17/2008 02:40 PM: Todd Denniston ssa.crane.navy.mil> writes: 1) you don't need to call hwclock while NTP is running to keep the hardware clock synced to system time, the kernel hackers "helpfully" put a sneak circuit in the ntp implementation in the _kernel_ such that

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Mike
Arthur Pemberton gmail.com> writes: > I would guess that that is mostly due to limited manpower: new > packages needed to be rebuilt and rereviewed. Don't forget also that there may also be residual problems with the newest versions - I am not sure that kernel 2.6.27 is entirely bug-free and run

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Arthur Pemberton
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm waiting for gimp2.6, kernel 2.6.27 and open-office 3.0. If I am not > mistaken, there are a couple evolution releases that haven't been > accepted either. > > All of these packages have been released for general distribu

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Rick Stevens
Linuxguy123 wrote: I'm waiting for gimp2.6, kernel 2.6.27 and open-office 3.0. If I am not mistaken, there are a couple evolution releases that haven't been accepted either. All of these packages have been released for general distribution outside of the Fedora community. Why does it take so

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Rex Dieter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aldo Foot wrote: > >> Kate's embedded terminal is helpful when writing programs. >> It works well as long as it's located at the Lower Sidebar. >> The terminal freezes up if it's moved to the left, right >> or upper sidebar.

Re: Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Andras Simon
On 10/17/08, Linuxguy123 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm waiting for gimp2.6, kernel 2.6.27 and open-office 3.0. If I am not > mistaken, there are a couple evolution releases that haven't been > accepted either. > > All of these packages have been released for general distribution > outside of th

Re: How to talk ethernet to windows

2008-10-17 Thread Kevin Martin
Colin Paul Adams wrote: > I have a fedora 9 box which is connected to my wireless network (via > network manager). > > It also has an ethernet port, and there is a windows xp professional > box in the same room with an ethernet port too. I have a cable to > connect the two boxes together. > > So

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-17 Thread Markku Kolkka
mike kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 17. lokakuuta 2008): > My question is do I need to worry about the lack of > certification? There's a lack of trust, not lack of certification. Those are two different things when talking about the GPG/PGP "web of trust" certification scheme.

Why does it take so long for new (gimp, kernels, openoffice) packages to reach the stable repo ?

2008-10-17 Thread Linuxguy123
I'm waiting for gimp2.6, kernel 2.6.27 and open-office 3.0. If I am not mistaken, there are a couple evolution releases that haven't been accepted either. All of these packages have been released for general distribution outside of the Fedora community. Why does it take so long for them to be a

Re: #ifdef __USE_GNU in /usr/include/bits/socket.h in F9 vs F8

2008-10-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:33:07 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm not sure where to file this in bugzilla, so I'll start off here. > This is kind of a developer question but not a Fedora development > question and the exact rpm (glibc-headers) is not called out in bugzilla >

OOPS - fixed Re: Problem building kernel

2008-10-17 Thread Robert Wuest
I had CROSS_COMPILE=powerpc-750-linux-gnu- in my environment. Grrr. It's building fine now. Robert On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 13:04 -0600, Robert Wuest wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to rebuild my kernel before I do some patching to it, and I'm > running into an error. > > I've downloaded the src

Re: Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Aldo Foot wrote: > Kate's embedded terminal is helpful when writing programs. > It works well as long as it's located at the Lower Sidebar. > The terminal freezes up if it's moved to the left, right > or upper sidebar. Can you give me steps to follow to reproduce this? (In particular, I'm not su

please report bugs to get them fixed instead of telling each and everybody (or documentating) how work around them (was: Re: EeePC - to Fedora or not?)

2008-10-17 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 17.10.2008 16:35, Jim wrote: Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: On 12.10.2008 21:26, Jim wrote: Beartooth wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:24:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: [...] The madwifi drivers at Livna does not work as they should for the 2.6.26 kernels. Did you (or somebody else) file a bug s

Re: certification of signatures

2008-10-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
mike wrote: > I have a real basic question about verifying your download for Fedora 7, > 8 and 9. I'm new to keys, signatures, certification, etc. and I haven't > been able to find what I need in the Fedora help resources. Apologies > if this is the wrong place to post or if a similar post appe

Problem building kernel

2008-10-17 Thread Robert Wuest
Hi, I'm trying to rebuild my kernel before I do some patching to it, and I'm running into an error. I've downloaded the src.rpm and installed it $ rpm -i kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.src.rpm cd to my SPECS and run $ rpmbuild -bb --target=`uname -m` kernel.spec (in my case, uname -m is x86_64) Aft

Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Steve Repo
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Antonio M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/17 Arch Willingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing. >> >> Arch >> >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

unexpected yum results...update back on automatic?

2008-10-17 Thread Fred Silsbee
KDE 4.1.1 2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686 I want to check the update configuration the icon for update system is still there Since a strange yum update, I think the update has been somehow set to automatic. Un expected yum results: LMKIII (root) ~ [1000]>yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit

How to talk ethernet to windows

2008-10-17 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I have a fedora 9 box which is connected to my wireless network (via network manager). It also has an ethernet port, and there is a windows xp professional box in the same room with an ethernet port too. I have a cable to connect the two boxes together. So I want to set up a lan with the linux en

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Ian Burrell
Todd Denniston ssa.crane.navy.mil> writes: > > 1) you don't need to call hwclock while NTP is running to keep the hardware > clock synced to system time, the kernel hackers "helpfully" put a sneak > circuit in the ntp implementation in the _kernel_ such that if NTP declares a > good sync with

Kate's terminal emulator freezes up

2008-10-17 Thread Aldo Foot
Kate's embedded terminal is helpful when writing programs. It works well as long as it's located at the Lower Sidebar. The terminal freezes up if it's moved to the left, right or upper sidebar. Is this a Kate bug? I'm running Fedora 8. Does this happen in the more recent Fedora releases? -- fed

certification of signatures

2008-10-17 Thread mike
Hi, I have a real basic question about verifying your download for Fedora 7, 8 and 9. I'm new to keys, signatures, certification, etc. and I haven't been able to find what I need in the Fedora help resources. Apologies if this is the wrong place to post or if a similar post appears (not sure

Re: #ifdef __USE_GNU in /usr/include/bits/socket.h in F9 vs F8

2008-10-17 Thread Ulrich Drepper
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael H. Warfield wrote: > I don't see the reason for this change since all it does is eliminate > the ucred structure definition without defining any replacement. This has nothing to do with replacing it. The #ifdef is needed for namespace h

fdisk and labels

2008-10-17 Thread Trapper
Somewhere along the line I saw a small script that provides a display of label information as a part of "fdisk -l" results. My searches have proved fruitless. Anyone recall such a script? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/

#ifdef __USE_GNU in /usr/include/bits/socket.h in F9 vs F8

2008-10-17 Thread Michael H. Warfield
Hey all, I'm not sure where to file this in bugzilla, so I'll start off here. This is kind of a developer question but not a Fedora development question and the exact rpm (glibc-headers) is not called out in bugzilla and I'm not sure if I should file it under glibc or what. A netw

Re: Application Menu

2008-10-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Ryan wrote: > How do you get rid of the favorites folder in the classic KDE > application menu? I am running fedora 9 with KDE 4 if it makes any > difference. Afaik, the classic/kickoff menus are pretty much not configurable at all (at the moment). -- Rex -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-li

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Todd Denniston
Chris wrote, On 10/17/2008 06:46 AM: First of all, thanks for all the replies. Some useful suggestions in there which I'll be trying this morning. 2008/10/17 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> runs "/sbin/hwclock --utc --hctosys" to sync the hardware clock to the system clock. But this i

Re: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Antonio M
2008/10/17 Arch Willingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing. > > Arch > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kwhiskerz > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:19 PM > To: fedora-list@

Application Menu

2008-10-17 Thread Ryan
How do you get rid of the favorites folder in the classic KDE application menu? I am running fedora 9 with KDE 4 if it makes any difference. Thank You, Ryan -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redha

RE: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT]

2008-10-17 Thread Arch Willingham
I don't see where anyone answered youI am wondering the same thing. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kwhiskerz Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 4:19 PM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: libdvdcss [quasi OT, quasi not OT] I read

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris wrote: > Thanks for the idea but these machines are sent out to various sites, ok. if system time syncing is supper critical, have you considered time sync with a radio clock? again, check '/usr/share/doc/ntp*'. and you can google for suppliers

Re: EeePC - to Fedora or not?

2008-10-17 Thread Jim
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: On 12.10.2008 21:26, Jim wrote: Beartooth wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:24:03 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: [...] The madwifi drivers at Livna does not work as they should for the 2.6.26 kernels. Did you (or somebody else) file a bug so this can be fixed? Then we c

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Chris
2008/10/17 g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > if you would like to make your life a little easier, set up one of > your local boxes, that has internet access, to act as a local server. > > let it check 'outside' for time, then you can sync all boxes to a > local time server and *all* of you local network wil

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris wrote: > Oh yes, I'm having the time of my life. :) Thanks for the suggestions. if you would like to make your life a little easier, set up one of your local boxes, that has internet access, to act as a local server. let it check 'outside' for

Re: gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't read 4 bytes from client:

2008-10-17 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 09:46 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 16:33 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm getting messages like the above every few minutes, e.g.: > > > > Oct 15 15:19:26 bree gnome-keyring-daemon[6922]: couldn't read 4 bytes from > > client: > > Oct 15 15:19

Re: playing mpeg has cone screwey.

2008-10-17 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 20:49 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 01:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> Aaron Konstam wrote: > OK, installing those extra rpms make totem work. But that leaves us > with > two questi

Re: [OT] Flash 10 for Fedora 8 x86_64

2008-10-17 Thread Rex Dieter
Sean Bruno wrote: > Just a notice, if you are using Flash and install the recently released > Flash 10 for linux, you'll need to install curl-devel to get it to > acutally work. Hadn't seen it posted in this thead yet... so, here's the scoop: http://wtogami.livejournal.com/28504.html http://macro

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Chris
2008/10/17 Todd Denniston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote, On 10/16/2008 05:23 PM: >> >> What are you trying to do with this cron job? You are updating the >> system clock from the hardware clock, and not the other way around, >> as you say you are trying to do. The system does syn

Re: hwclock can cause system lockup

2008-10-17 Thread Chris
First of all, thanks for all the replies. Some useful suggestions in there which I'll be trying this morning. 2008/10/17 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > runs "/sbin/hwclock --utc --hctosys" to sync the hardware clock to > the system clock. > > But this is syncing the system clock to the

Re: Firefox seg fault

2008-10-17 Thread nticompass
I have this same problem in Fedora 9 (2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686). /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.2/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 3357 Segmentation fault "$prog" ${1+"$@"} Try running firefox in safe mode (firefox --safe-mode). -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.or

Re: gnome-keyring-daemon: couldn't read 4 bytes from client:

2008-10-17 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 16:33 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I'm getting messages like the above every few minutes, e.g.: > > Oct 15 15:19:26 bree gnome-keyring-daemon[6922]: couldn't read 4 bytes from > client: > Oct 15 15:19:26 bree gnome-keyring-daemon[6922]: couldn't read 4 bytes from > c