Re: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread David Timms
Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 13:00:15 -0700, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, testers running Fedora 10 Beta/Rawhide will automatically run official Fedora 10 once it is out :) What about package signing ? Have Beta/snap releases rpms been signed by the norm

Re: Fedora 10 Snapshot 3: iso-info run request

2008-10-24 Thread David Timms
Jesse Keating wrote: This is the final snapshot before our final devel freeze and subsequent preview release. On the torrent site you'll find install images and live images for testing. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Anyone who can provide an isoinfo run of the completed download of the: s

Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-10-24 Thread Kam Leo
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Kevin Kofler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: >> That's a really offensive comment. It assumes that business people who use >> commercial software are just a bunch of clueless assholes. > > No, it just says that they didn't consider the c

Re: Newbie issues installing switchdesk.

2008-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
parchdtear fcp.surfsite.org> writes: > yum install switchdesk > Setting up Install Process > Parsing package install arguments > No package switchdesk available. > Nothing to do Maybe the system does not have the -newkey repositories configured yet? I guess it's missing weeks if not months of up

Re: KDE4 auto-hiding of panel

2008-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick Mansfield aracnet.com> writes: > So, it should show up in a future Fedora 9 update of kdebase-workspace. Yes, the very update Rex linked to! https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/FEDORA-2008-9028 It's currently in updates-testing-newkey, so you can get it now from: su -c "yum --enab

Re: KDE4 auto-hiding of panel

2008-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Patrick Mansfield aracnet.com> writes: > Did this get backported into Fedora 9? Yes, it's currently in updates-testing-newkey. su -c "yum --enablerepo=updates-testing-newkey update kdebase-workspace" Then follow the instructions in the update notes: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F9/F

Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: > That's a really offensive comment. It assumes that business people who use > commercial software are just a bunch of clueless assholes. No, it just says that they didn't consider the consequences of using proprietary software when they made their decision and th

Re: Fedora 10 Snapshot 3

2008-10-24 Thread Robert L Cochran
I'm not getting much throughput on this, about 16Kbps at the moment. At this rate, I'll be unable to get the snapshot in the bag before leaving for North Carolina and a brief vacation. Bob Cochran Jesse Keating wrote: > This is the final snapshot before our final devel freeze and subsequent > pr

Re: Spontaneous pulseaudio death

2008-10-24 Thread Neal Becker
Rick Stevens wrote: > Hi gang. I've recently been having spontaneous pulseaudio daemon deaths > occuring. The daemon just quits. There is a trace of it in > /var/log/messages: > > Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No > such file or directory > Oct 20 13:27:45

Re: Wireless, Broadcom

2008-10-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
Roman Makurin wrote: В Срд, 22/10/2008 в 11:05 -0400, Vincent Onelli пишет: I would like to but I could not find the side to download it, I appreciate if you happen to have a link for me. thank you Vinny http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php Thank you for the link, I have the

Re: trends in fedora

2008-10-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Given that the network isn't brought up until the user logs in Checking the "activate device when computer starts" option in system-config-network works nicely for me. I had the feeling that I needed NM to get wsa working, but I'l

Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-10-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Kofler wrote: Bill Davidsen tmr.com> writes: Unfortunately people and companies who have critical commercial software for which upgrades are unavailable or unafordable remember those days well. That's exactly why relying on proprietary software is a bad idea. That's a really offensive

Re: Mystery of yum update

2008-10-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mogens Kjaer wrote: >> I am running Fedora-9 on two Thinkpads, a T23 and a T43. >> When I ran "yum update" on both this morning, >> the T43 updated the kernel to kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.rpm >> while the T23 did not update kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686.rpm . >> >> Why didn't the T23 update? >> I

Re: Libraries disappearing from compat-libstdc++-296

2008-10-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:47:57 -0400 Bill Davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree that no one should be building with those libraries, but in fact people do use binaries already using them. Yea. For instance, I'm sticking with a very old version of nxclient/server because

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Alan Cox
> translation...high point is fake raid though I don't want to denigrate > high point stuff or their attempts to support Linux. To be honest the software RAID interfaces are usually better than hardware ones especially once you reach the world of PCI express where each controller has its own bandw

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seann Clark wrote: > under linux, with the HP370 driver loaded into the kernel, it will work > as a RAID that isn't managed or taxing the CPU. this was my desire and intentions. but short life did not allow me chance to do so. > It is a good board

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > There are significant advantages to just using software raid until Linux > and not using the on board raid. this i understand, and have done. just not of late as needed drives for separate systems. did cause a lot of extra ba

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > translation...high point is fake raid though I don't want to denigrate > high point stuff or their attempts to support Linux. from seann's later response, fake if all 8 drives are raid. not fake if ide1,2 = non raid and ide3,4 =

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 20:01:47 +, g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if ide1,2 are non raid, can ide3,4 be used as true raid under linux after > linux install? There are significant advantages to just using software raid until Linux and not using the on board raid. (In particular you won't

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Seann Clark
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seann Clark wrote: I have to define, kt7-RAID, which I own a board with that on it, is i bow to your knowledge as an owner. raid was not a feature that caused me to buy board, but did help. i need a faster board and wanted amd.

Re: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 13:00:15 -0700, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, testers running Fedora 10 Beta/Rawhide will automatically run official > Fedora 10 once it is out :) > > To keep running rawhide one has to edit the *.repo files. Otherwise it will > be automatic :) On

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seann Clark wrote: > I have to define, kt7-RAID, which I own a board with that on it, is i bow to your knowledge as an owner. raid was not a feature that caused me to buy board, but did help. i need a faster board and wanted amd. cpu and board were

Re: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Fri, 10/24/08, David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide > To: "Fedora" > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 11:43 AM > Hello guys, > > short question - I have Fedora 10 beta , installed using > netinstall. > > When F

Re: Konqueror does not show my homepage when started (F9, kdebase-4.1.2-5.fc9.i386)

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joachim Backes wrote: > I have configured konqueror so it should start with my homepage > (settings>Configure konqueror still enjoying use of kde3. holding off kde4 until it has aged. in kde3, after doing any changes to konqueror, i finish this off

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 14:26 -0500, Seann Clark wrote: > g wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Craig White wrote: > > > > > >> OK - understand, motherboard with fake raid connectors for fake raid. > >> > > > > not fake. see; > > http://www.motherboard.cz/mb

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Seann Clark
g wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: OK - understand, motherboard with fake raid connectors for fake raid. not fake. see; http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/abit/kt7-raid.htm for view of board. [no longer shown on abit site] [note: do not get sidetrac

Re: F10beta: SElinux problem with firefox and npviewer.bin

2008-10-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pavel Lisy wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 10:20 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> Pavel Lisy wrote: >>> Hello >>> >>> I've just installed F10beta and it seams to be step forward. >>> >>> But I have problem with firefox and flash content in some web site

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > OK - understand, motherboard with fake raid connectors for fake raid. not fake. see; http://www.motherboard.cz/mb/abit/kt7-raid.htm for view of board. [no longer shown on abit site] [note: do not get sidetracked and lost checki

Re: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread Antonio M
2008/10/24 Nicolae Ghimbovschi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 21:43, David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello guys, >> >> >> rpm package and yum will start use fedora and fedora-updates repo instead >> of rawhide?? > I'm not sure 100%, but I think that until you will not di

Re: Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread Nicolae Ghimbovschi
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 21:43, David Hláčik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello guys, > > short question - I have Fedora 10 beta , installed using netinstall. > > When Fedora 10 Release is out , According to this source http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/10/Schedule Fedora 10 official release is

Fedora 10 - aka Rawhide

2008-10-24 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, short question - I have Fedora 10 beta , installed using netinstall. When Fedora 10 Release is out , will rawhide provide me fedora-release-10 rpm package and yum will start use fedora and fedora-updates repo instead of rawhide?? Thanks! D. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@

Re: Spontaneous pulseaudio death

2008-10-24 Thread brian
Rick Stevens wrote: Spontaneous pulseaudio death Didn't they open for Disaster Area on their last galactic tour? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingL

Spontaneous pulseaudio death

2008-10-24 Thread Rick Stevens
Hi gang. I've recently been having spontaneous pulseaudio daemon deaths occuring. The daemon just quits. There is a trace of it in /var/log/messages: Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: shm.c: shm_open() failed: No such file or directory Oct 20 13:27:45 prophead pulseaudio[9301]: pstre

Re: Wireless, Broadcom

2008-10-24 Thread Roman Makurin
В Срд, 22/10/2008 в 11:05 -0400, Vincent Onelli пишет: > I would like to but I could not find the side to download it, I appreciate if > you > happen to have a link for me. > thank you > Vinny http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php -- If you think of MS-DOS as mono, and Windows a

Re: dual - head extended desktop

2008-10-24 Thread fred smith
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 04:26:44PM +0200, Peter Boy wrote: > Am Freitag, den 24.10.2008, 16:15 +0200 schrieb David Hláčik: > > Hello guys, > > > > It is possible in Fedora 9 with ATI drivers to extend desktop to two > > monitor so i will have a big desktop and i can move windows from one > > moni

Re: Newbie issues installing switchdesk.

2008-10-24 Thread parchdtear
Aya! Thanks so such. I was wondering if I could just grab it online. That worked like a charm. I'm not sure how to answer the repo question, I have no clue how to tell - I'll understand more one day. Thanks again. :-D -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.s

Re: Newbie issues installing switchdesk.

2008-10-24 Thread Phil Meyer
parchdtear wrote: Hey! I'm a bit new to Linux - run Ubuntu at home and at school FC8. In class trying to get fedora core to switch from GNOME to KDE using switch desk I receive this: switchdesk KDE bash: switchdesk: command not found So I attempted an install. yum install switchdesk Settin

Re: Newbie issues installing switchdesk.

2008-10-24 Thread Seann Clark
parchdtear wrote: Hey! I'm a bit new to Linux - run Ubuntu at home and at school FC8. In class trying to get fedora core to switch from GNOME to KDE using switch desk I receive this: switchdesk KDE bash: switchdesk: command not found So I attempted an install. yum install switchdesk Settin

Newbie issues installing switchdesk.

2008-10-24 Thread parchdtear
Hey! I'm a bit new to Linux - run Ubuntu at home and at school FC8. In class trying to get fedora core to switch from GNOME to KDE using switch desk I receive this: switchdesk KDE bash: switchdesk: command not found So I attempted an install. yum install switchdesk Setting up Install Process

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 06:34 +, g wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Craig White wrote: > > > by the way, there are no additional connectors for RAID as hard drive > > connections are entirely standardized and you use one of the known > > standards like IDE/PATA, SATA

Re: dual - head extended desktop

2008-10-24 Thread Peter Boy
Am Freitag, den 24.10.2008, 16:15 +0200 schrieb David Hláčik: > Hello guys, > > It is possible in Fedora 9 with ATI drivers to extend desktop to two > monitor so i will have a big desktop and i can move windows from one > monitor to second with having on each monitor different resolution? If you

dual - head extended desktop

2008-10-24 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, It is possible in Fedora 9 with ATI drivers to extend desktop to two monitor so i will have a big desktop and i can move windows from one monitor to second with having on each monitor different resolution? So far it was not working for me. Thanks! David -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: KDE4 Save Session

2008-10-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > One configuration option in KDE4 is to restore a manually saved desktop > session, however there doesn't seem to be a way to actually save the > session in the first place. Feature not (fully) implemented for KDE4 yet. (I miss it too) -- Rex -- fedora-list mailin

KDE4 Save Session

2008-10-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
One configuration option in KDE4 is to restore a manually saved desktop session, however there doesn't seem to be a way to actually save the session in the first place. This used to exist in KDE3. Is there something I'm missing or is it a bug? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.c

Re: Mystery of yum update

2008-10-24 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Timothy Murphy wrote: > I am running Fedora-9 on two Thinkpads, a T23 and a T43. > When I ran "yum update" on both this morning, > the T43 updated the kernel to kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.rpm > while the T23 did not update kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686.rpm . > > Why didn't the T23 update? > Is it j

Mystery of yum update

2008-10-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
I am running Fedora-9 on two Thinkpads, a T23 and a T43. When I ran "yum update" on both this morning, the T43 updated the kernel to kernel-2.6.26.5-45.fc9.i686.rpm while the T23 did not update kernel-2.6.25.9-76.fc9.i686.rpm . Why didn't the T23 update? Is it just a question of the machines findi

Re: Lenovo ThinkPad T400: F9, F10b, or Wait for F10 final?

2008-10-24 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 08:47 +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > > This new series ThinkPad has _both_ the notorious Intel e1000e Gig-e NIC > > (the hardware of which a certain recent kernel bug has taken a likening > > to eating) and the Intel IWL5001 series WiFi card. It also has ATI > > graphics. > >

Re: CUPS "Unable to get printer status (Forbidden)!"

2008-10-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Richard England wrote: > Timothy Murphy wrote: >> I'm trying to use a printer attached to a USB port >> on a remote machine, but I get the above message. >> I can access the computer in question with >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ telnet 192.168.2.2 631 >> Trying 192

Re: F10beta: SElinux problem with firefox and npviewer.bin

2008-10-24 Thread Pavel Lisy
On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 10:20 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > Pavel Lisy wrote: > > Hello > > > > I've just installed F10beta and it seams to be step forward. > > > > But I have problem with firefox and flash content in some web sites. > > > > there are these errors (Summary only): > > > > 2x >

Re: vlc-playing DVD won't display on external monitor

2008-10-24 Thread Chris
2008/10/24 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > ah, right, i remember your earlier response. i will now go > read it. :-) Heheh, actually it was someone else whose reply I hadn't seen. His response is remarkable similar to mine so we must be right. :) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-lis

Re: vlc-playing DVD won't display on external monitor

2008-10-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2008/10/24 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: someone else suggested that the DVD image was bypassing the framebuffer, which i didn't follow. can someone clarify the technical issues behind why i need to deactivate the attached LCD display on the laptop t

Re: vlc-playing DVD won't display on external monitor

2008-10-24 Thread Chris
2008/10/24 Robert P. J. Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > someone else suggested that the DVD image was bypassing the > framebuffer, which i didn't follow. can someone clarify the > technical issues behind why i need to deactivate the attached > LCD display on the laptop to get DVD output on the externa

Re: vlc-playing DVD won't display on external monitor

2008-10-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
Quoting Mogens Kjaer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... then, connected an external (samsung WUXGA) flat-panel monitor via DVI, and the entire laptop display is reflected nicely on the monitor *except* for the actual DVD image in the VLC window -- that just shows up as blank, ei

Konqueror does not show my homepage when started (F9, kdebase-4.1.2-5.fc9.i386)

2008-10-24 Thread Joachim Backes
I have configured konqueror so it should start with my homepage (settings>Configure konqueror, setting "When konqueror starts" to "show my homepage"). Leaving the configure menu by OK button. But after exiting and restarting konqueror, this new controls are lost, and konqueror starts with "Show

Re: vlc-playing DVD won't display on external monitor

2008-10-24 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Robert P. J. Day wrote: ... > then, connected an external (samsung WUXGA) flat-panel > monitor via DVI, and the entire laptop display is reflected > nicely on the monitor *except* for the actual DVD image in > the VLC window -- that just shows up as blank, either in > regular or fullscreen mode (

Re: Viewing pictures in Konqueror

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim wrote: > FC8 > Why is that in Konqueror file manager that you can see a few jpg > pictures, instead your viewing the camera icons, in *menu bar*: 'view > view mode' chose mode 'view > icon size' chose size 'view > [x] folder icons reflect conte

Re: FC3 Repos?

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fedora is the wrong distribution for this kind of people. another reason i am playing with sl5. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ uname -a Linux argosyiayia.ciee.lab 2.6.18-92.1.13.el5 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 16:44:34 EDT 2008 i686 athlon i386 G

Re: FC3 Repos?

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Cox wrote: > Some of 'em maybe, but don't speak for this one spoken like a *true ham*. sign? - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > by the way, there are no additional connectors for RAID as hard drive > connections are entirely standardized and you use one of the known > standards like IDE/PATA, SATA, SCSI-LVD, SCSI-SCA and probably some > others. not true.

Re: Fedora 9 Boot Problem

2008-10-24 Thread g
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Craig White wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID > see the section on Firmware / Driver based RAID t4l. - -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038

Re: Retrieve F9 startup log after boot

2008-10-24 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Tom Horsley wrote: ... > Yea, the only way I've ever been able to capture things like walkbacks > from crashing services was to configure the boot to use a serial port > and use a null modem to another computer where I could capture the > boot messages in a terminal emulator (which is a royal pain)