Lihat profil Facebook saya

2009-03-01 Thread Harry Ismail
Hai And, Saya membuat profil Facebook yang dapat saya kirimi foto, video, dan acara saya dan saya ingin menambahkan Anda sebagai teman sehingga Anda dapat melihatnya. Sebelumnya, Anda perlu bergabung dengan Facebook! Setelah bergabung, Anda dapat juga membuat profil Anda sendiri. Terima kasih,

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:18 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > It works perfectly when I reply to your emails; however, I had to hit > "reply to all" change the list from "cc" to "to" and remove the > individuals' private emails before hitting send for the following: > > dgbo...@comcast.net > pgalti...

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:01 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > On this list, the Reply-To header is not rewritten - one is added > pointing back to the list. If you have your own Reply-To, then > replies show up for both. I have to delete the sender's address on > about 25% of hte messages I send.

Re: Running Smart Package manager as non-root

2009-03-01 Thread Chris Kottaridis
I am building my own binary RPMs for an internal project. What I want to do is let YUM manage the normal system wide packages and then use smart strictly as a manger of these internal RPMs that individuals can install on their machine in directories they own and keep up to date as they see fit. We

Re: Howto revert back to earlier version of rpm, as apt is broken with latest

2009-03-01 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 02 March 2009 01:26, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > Updates to rpm, rpm-libs, and rpm-python on F10 have broken apt. > > > > How can I revert back to the earlier version of rpm? I have the earlier > > rpm packages available in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages. > > > >

Re: KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 18:54 -0500, Mail Lists wrote: > On 03/01/2009 06:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 00:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> In fact you should upgrade to KDE 4.2 yourself instead of wasting your > >> time with this useless and broken crap. > > > > Way

Re: Howto revert back to earlier version of rpm, as apt is broken with latest

2009-03-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Nigel Henry wrote: > Updates to rpm, rpm-libs, and rpm-python on F10 have broken apt. > > How can I revert back to the earlier version of rpm? I have the earlier rpm > packages available in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages. > > The current installed version of rpm (apt broken) is rpm-4.6.0-1.fc10

Howto revert back to earlier version of rpm, as apt is broken with latest

2009-03-01 Thread Nigel Henry
Updates to rpm, rpm-libs, and rpm-python on F10 have broken apt. How can I revert back to the earlier version of rpm? I have the earlier rpm packages available in /var/cache/yum/updates/packages. The current installed version of rpm (apt broken) is rpm-4.6.0-1.fc10.i386 The earlier version of r

Re: KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Mail Lists
On 03/01/2009 06:44 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 00:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> In fact you should upgrade to KDE 4.2 yourself instead of wasting your >> time with this useless and broken crap. > > Way to go Kevin, now tell us what you *really* think :-) > > poc >

Re: KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 00:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > In fact you should upgrade to KDE 4.2 yourself instead of wasting your > time with this useless and broken crap. Way to go Kevin, now tell us what you *really* think :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscrib

Re: "No Screen" error when running F10-i686-Live-KDE and Nvidia GEForce 7000M

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Trotter
On Sunday, March 01, 2009, at 05:37PM, "Kevin Kofler" wrote: >Chad Trotter wrote: >> I am having an issue with running and installing the F10 Live KDE CD. I >> have spent several days reading posts about how to pull the correct video >> driver I need for this work on my wife's ACER Aspire 4520.

Re: KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
PS: If you want to use obsolete software, why are you using Fedora? Use CentOS 5 or Debian Lenny if you want KDE 3. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wik

Re: KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
[For the TL;DR crowd: DO NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE OP!!! THEY WILL REINTRODUCE CRITICAL SECURITY VULNERABILITIES INTO YOUR SYSTEM AND MAY ALSO CAUSE A LOT OF DEPENDENCY ISSUES!!!] Roberto Ragusa wrote: > this is a (late) follow up to my mails about > having KDE 3 from F8 on Fedora 9 and

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/3/1 Kevin Kofler : > suvayu ali wrote: >> To add to the discussion, NM doesn't connect to the network without a >> gui. That seems a rather shortsighted design. I found this the hard >> way today when my gui got screwed after an update and some ill >> considered tinkering. > > This is only tru

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:33:40 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This is part of the Panel Conf

KDE3 on F9 and F10 HOWTO, now online

2009-03-01 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Hi all, this is a (late) follow up to my mails about having KDE 3 from F8 on Fedora 9 and 10. As there were some people interested in what I've done, I finally found the time to put all the stuff online (specs, patches, SRPMS, RPMS). Everything is on this page (including a disclaimer): http://w

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robert L Cochran wrote: > plugins=ifcfg-fedora That's the plugin which is supposed to handle settings from system-config-network. But I think this feature is mainly tested with wired networks. Some wireless stuff is known not to be supported, for example WPA. (The Fedora ifcfg settings have no set

Re: "No Screen" error when running F10-i686-Live-KDE and Nvidia GEForce 7000M

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chad Trotter wrote: > I am having an issue with running and installing the F10 Live KDE CD. I > have spent several days reading posts about how to pull the correct video > driver I need for this work on my wife's ACER Aspire 4520. Try booting with xdriver=vesa or xdriver=nouveau. (The default is n

[INFO] The plugin 'org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin' does not exist or no valid version could be found

2009-03-01 Thread Christoph Höger
Hi, I get the above error message for my pretty standard maven project. That seems to be highly fedora specific, because maven should basically download all needed stuff. any advice on this? regards christoph (attached: pom.xml) pom.xml Description: XML document signature.asc Description:

Re: Akonadi on f10 (again)

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gene Heskett wrote: > [akonadiserver] 090301 15:32:16 [ERROR] Fatal error: Please read > ["Security" section of the manual to find out how > to run mysqld as root! So mysql is refusing to run as root the way Akonadi is configuring it. :-/ I hate apps doing that. The mysql.conf Akonadi writes out p

Re: Running Smart Package manager as non-root

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Kottaridis wrote: > How do I get smart to manage it's RPMs in a different DB then the system > wide one and also get it to load all RPMs into a predetermined > directory, other then "/", and do all of this as a normal, non-root, > user ? This is not supported, Fedora RPMs are not relocatabl

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:33:40 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This is part of the Panel Config.

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Robert L Cochran
>> Part of the problem here is understanding the difference between the >> network service and the NetworkManager service. The network service >> will connect before you log in, while the NetworkManager service >> connects after you log in. You normally want to run only one of >> these services. I

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
suvayu ali wrote: > To add to the discussion, NM doesn't connect to the network without a > gui. That seems a rather shortsighted design. I found this the hard > way today when my gui got screwed after an update and some ill > considered tinkering. This is only true if you don't have a systemwide

Re: "No Screen" error when running F10-i686-Live-KDE and Nvidia GEForce 7000M

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Trotter
On Sunday, March 01, 2009, at 04:35PM, "Peter Reed" wrote: >> First off, thanks for taking time to read this post. >> >> I am having an issue with running and installing the F10 Live KDE CD. I >> have spent several days reading posts about how to pull the correct video >> driver I need for this

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:18 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > Sorry about my grumpiness today. Not to worry. poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuid

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 15:01 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > >> No, I mean this one, as clarified in my post. Most of the time when I > >> hit reply it goes right back to the list. However, there are some > >>

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 12:49 -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:19:47PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > Is it *absolutely* necessary to include all 753 lines of quoted material > > in this? Does nobody ever edit this stuff before posting? > > > > He was asked to post

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Timothy Murphy wrote: > I probably shouldn't have said "error message". > I should have said "informational message". > Surely it would take very little effort to explain what > "device state change: 1 -> 2" actually means? This is debugging output intended for wireless driver developers only, you

some apps wont print

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kempter
Hi All; I have a data modeling program called Data Architect (theKompany.com) and I have a subscription to trails.com. I can no longer print via either one, I know that I used to be able to print from trails.com a few updates ago. Thoughts ? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: "No Screen" error when running F10-i686-Live-KDE and Nvidia GEForce 7000M

2009-03-01 Thread Peter Reed
> First off, thanks for taking time to read this post. > > I am having an issue with running and installing the F10 Live KDE CD. I > have spent several days reading posts about how to pull the correct video > driver I need for this work on my wife's ACER Aspire 4520. > > I am an absolute n00b when

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread suvayu ali
2009/3/1 Mikkel L. Ellertson : > Robert L Cochran wrote: >> I too am having a problem with Network Manager, and like Anne, I should >> file a bug and provide feedback if requested. In my case Network Manager >> seems to have a terribly difficult time connecting to my wireless >> network before I lo

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Robert L Cochran wrote: > I too am having a problem with Network Manager, and like Anne, I should > file a bug and provide feedback if requested. In my case Network Manager > seems to have a terribly difficult time connecting to my wireless > network before I login. I always have to force a restart

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Timothy Murphy wrote: > From: Timothy Murphy > Subject: Re: NM: the usual rant > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 11:51 AM > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > >> I'm having problems with NM again. > >> I often have to re-boot once or twice before it > conn

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: >> No, I mean this one, as clarified in my post. Most of the time when I >> hit reply it goes right back to the list. However, there are some >> instances where only the responder's email is in the "reply to field,"

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 03:19:47PM -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Is it *absolutely* necessary to include all 753 lines of quoted material > in this? Does nobody ever edit this stuff before posting? > He was asked to post it here. While a more clueful person would have asked him to put i

Akonadi on f10 (again)

2009-03-01 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; Akonadi won't run here & the messages are confusing. From the kde help web page: akonadictl start should run it, but I get a very long report, the first stanza of which is naming mysqld: Starting Akonadi Server... done. [r...@coyote fire

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Robert L Cochran
I too am having a problem with Network Manager, and like Anne, I should file a bug and provide feedback if requested. In my case Network Manager seems to have a terribly difficult time connecting to my wireless network before I login. I always have to force a restart of the network service in order

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: No, I mean this one, as clarified in my post. Most of the time when I hit reply it goes right back to the list. However, there are some instances where only the responder's email is in the "reply to field," and it g

miro seg fault on Fedora 10 x86_64

2009-03-01 Thread John Thompson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to use miro on my F10-x86_64 system but it dies with a seg fault as soon as I try to watch anything: ~ WARNING downloader: connection closed -- quitting ~ INFO Shutting down downloaders... ~ /usr/bin/miro: line 2: 24049 Segmentatio

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 19:56 +, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/3/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : > > > > Is it *absolutely* necessary to include all 753 lines of quoted material > > in this? Does nobody ever edit this stuff before posting? > > > > I thought we weren't supposed to use HTML tags either...

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Anne Wilson wrote: > Hmm - I had a problem with NM. I reported it. I gave feedback as and when > requested. The problem is solved. I'm not complaining :-) I agree with you in principle. But it is very difficult to pin down a problem that only arises from time to time. In my experience NM st

Re: file locking...

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:47 -0800, Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote: > Depending on the complexity of the activity you may need to resort to > some of the tricks used by sendmail or postfix. For example how do > you know that a data file has been processed: not at all, completely > or > incompletely and i

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:14 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > No, I mean this one, as clarified in my post. Most of the time when I > hit reply it goes right back to the list. However, there are some > instances where only the responder's email is in the "reply to field," > and it goes to their private e

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 12:26 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > I have no problem being told I'm in error, provided the tone in which > the message is conveyed is not inappropriately..."dry," "blunt," > "sarcastic," or, heaven forbid, "anal." Provided such is the case. > One > never knows with the writ

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Matthew Flaschen wrote: >> Surely Linux error messages should be intelligible >> by the common user? >> Or are they intended solely for gurus? > > Some are for end users, some are for gurus (meant for posting on bug > reports and mailing lists). "Translating" every error message is not a > good

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/3/1 Patrick O'Callaghan : > > Is it *absolutely* necessary to include all 753 lines of quoted material > in this? Does nobody ever edit this stuff before posting? > I thought we weren't supposed to use HTML tags either... ;o) -- Sam -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

"No Screen" error when running F10-i686-Live-KDE and Nvidia GEForce 7000M

2009-03-01 Thread Chad Trotter
First off, thanks for taking time to read this post. I am having an issue with running and installing the F10 Live KDE CD. I have spent several days reading posts about how to pull the correct video driver I need for this work on my wife's ACER Aspire 4520. I am an absolute n00b when it comes t

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:33:40 Jim wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: > >> Anne Wilson wrote: > >>> On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the > > Pa

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 10:32 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: [...] Is it *absolutely* necessary to include all 753 lines of quoted material in this? Does nobody ever edit this stuff before posting? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Kevin Kofler wrote: >> I'm having problems with NM again. >> I often have to re-boot once or twice before it connects. > > It's probably a bug in your network (wireless?) driver rather than NM. > What driver are you using? orinoco_cs . My impression is that NM does not wait long enough at some p

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 01 March 2009 19:19:52 Colin J Thomson - G6AVK wrote: > On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:40:53 Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: > > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: > > > >> Anne Wilson wrote: > > > >>> This is part of th

Re: file locking...

2009-03-01 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 09:54:59AM -0800, bruce wrote: > > hi bruno. > > for my situation. i have a bunch of files being created by an upfront > process, and on the backend, i have a number of client/child processes that > get created, which have to operate/process the files. no file is processed

Re: Installing nVidia drivers on FC10

2009-03-01 Thread Dave Bolt IT Solutions
OK, I'm confused now. I managed to download a package from rpmfusion.org and install it. I now have the following configuration options available in gnome. System->Preferences->Hardware->Screen Resolution System->Administration->Display Applications->System Tools->NVIDIA X Server Settings The Scr

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the Panel Settings menu (right-click on empty taskbar) or by

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Colin J Thomson - G6AVK
On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:40:53 Anne Wilson wrote: > On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: > > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: > > >> Anne Wilson wrote: > > >>> This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the > > >>> Panel Settings men

Running Smart Package manager as non-root

2009-03-01 Thread Chris Kottaridis
I want to run the smart package manager on my fedora machine, but I don't want it to manage the system wide RPM's, but just some user specific RPMs. I want a typical user to be able to manage his own set of RPMs independently of the system management. I am running Fedora Core 8 and when I download

Re: F10 custom install

2009-03-01 Thread Phil Meyer
john wendel wrote: Phil Meyer wrote: john wendel wrote: Clueless here, I've got an F10 install running well, and I'd like to move the system to a flash disk. This flash will become the boot device for a small system I'm building. Can I just use "cp" and end up with a workable system? I know

Re: FC10 Boot Problems - FakeRaid

2009-03-01 Thread Kam Leo
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Gerry Doris wrote: >> My server has 5 SATA drives.  I have two pairs of Intel stripped raid >> (FakeRaid).  These are drive C: containing XP Pro and D: containing >> Vista 64.  I decided to try out Fedora 10 and added a 5th standalone >

Re: FC10 Boot Problems - FakeRaid

2009-03-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Gerry Doris wrote: > My server has 5 SATA drives. I have two pairs of Intel stripped raid > (FakeRaid). These are drive C: containing XP Pro and D: containing > Vista 64. I decided to try out Fedora 10 and added a 5th standalone > drive since I knew that Fedora has problems with FakeRaid. > > D

Re: Installing nVidia drivers on FC10

2009-03-01 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 01.03.2009 13:27, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/3/1 Andras Simon : On 3/1/09, Dave Bolt IT Solutions wrote: I have a test box which has been showing some corruption of the display from time to time. Since it doesn't matter if I play, I thought I would try installing the latest support for the g

Re: Installing nVidia drivers on FC10

2009-03-01 Thread Dave Bolt IT Solutions
Supposedly. It was one of the packages that the nVidia installation required. Dave - Original Message - From: "Andras Simon" To: "Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora." Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Installing nVidia drivers on FC10 O

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 01 March 2009 18:01:14 Jim wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: > >> Anne Wilson wrote: > >>> This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the > >>> Panel Settings menu (right-click on empty taskbar) or by hitting the > >>> small c

FC10 Boot Problems - FakeRaid

2009-03-01 Thread Gerry Doris
My server has 5 SATA drives. I have two pairs of Intel stripped raid (FakeRaid). These are drive C: containing XP Pro and D: containing Vista 64. I decided to try out Fedora 10 and added a 5th standalone drive since I knew that Fedora has problems with FakeRaid. During the installation I ad

Re: file locking...

2009-03-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:54:59 -0800 bruce wrote: > i'm considering a web kind of app, where the webservice returns a group of > files back to the requesting query. the webservice would have to quickly > generate the list of files from the local dir, which is why i'm trying to > figure out a "fast/e

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the Panel Settings menu (right-click on empty taskbar) or by hitting the small cashew at the extreme right of the panel. When that panel is

RE: file locking...

2009-03-01 Thread bruce
hi bruno. for my situation. i have a bunch of files being created by an upfront process, and on the backend, i have a number of client/child processes that get created, which have to operate/process the files. no file is processed by more than a single client app. i'm considering a web kind of ap

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Jim wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 07:25:34 Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 00:17 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I discovered about 2 hours ago that the updates repo in yum.repos.d was not enabled by

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 01 March 2009 17:11:04 Jim wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > > > This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the Panel > > Settings menu (right-click on empty taskbar) or by hitting the small > > cashew at the extreme right of the panel. When that panel is open, > > hov

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Edit --> Preferences --> Composition --> General --> Send Options Mikkel o...the plain text domains setting is very nicely thought out. Thanks for point it out! Gary -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com

Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Paolo Galtieri wrote: The times this has happened to me I've gotten things to fix up by doing the following: 1) bring up a terminal window and enter at the prompt 2) killall nautilus you do not have to be root to do this. Paolo Hi Paolo, I tried it with no effect. I simply got a no proces

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
If someone does not point out when you are making a mistake "without realizing it", how will you ever know you are making a mistake? It would seem thunderbird enables both "send as HTML" and "start my reply above quote" as default. Both have now been modified accordingly. I'm still not fully a

Re: kontrol on missing list

2009-03-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 March 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Greetings; >> >> I have upgraded to kde 4.2, and two things catch me right away. >> >> 1. Switching the kde thing back to menu, I see kontrol listed, but its >> apparently a dead menu entry, not e

Re: FEDORA 8 NETWORK BOOTING

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Antonio Barragan wrote: > I´m aware of that. Thing is that, after downloading and having tried to > install both F9 and F10 several times, I´ve ended up with no more than > hangups. Fun... Have you tried some of the usual troubleshooting/workaround boot parameters? Any of these can help (try the

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009 07:25:34 Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 01 March 2009, Craig White wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 00:17 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; I discovered about 2 hours ago that the updates repo in yum.repos.d was not enabled by the f10 u

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Gary Waters wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> There's another way to classify mailing-lists: those that are OK with >> HTML messages, and those that aren't. This one isn't (see >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines) so >> please take note. >> >> poc >> > > Ok,

Re: kontrol on missing list

2009-03-01 Thread Craig White
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 11:47 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings; > > I have upgraded to kde 4.2, and two things catch me right away. > > 1. Switching the kde thing back to menu, I see kontrol listed, but its > apparently a dead menu entry, not even a busy pointer when I click on it. > > 2. U

Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone

2009-03-01 Thread Paolo Galtieri
The times this has happened to me I've gotten things to fix up by doing the following: 1) bring up a terminal window and enter at the prompt 2) killall nautilus you do not have to be root to do this. Paolo On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Gary Waters wrote: > I have an interesting issue. I

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread David
Gary Waters wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> There's another way to classify mailing-lists: those that are OK with >> HTML messages, and those that aren't. This one isn't (see >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines) so >> please take note. >> poc > Ok, I just n

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:57:05 + Alan Cox wrote: > If you want to look at poor practice then gdm is a far better example Oh there is no doubt of that. I downloaded the source for gdm to try and understand how I might fix bug 451562, and it boggles the mind. An app who's one job is to validate a

kontrol on missing list

2009-03-01 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings; I have upgraded to kde 4.2, and two things catch me right away. 1. Switching the kde thing back to menu, I see kontrol listed, but its apparently a dead menu entry, not even a busy pointer when I click on it. 2. Under F8, my logitech keyboards media keys for mute and volume control J

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: There's another way to classify mailing-lists: those that are OK with HTML messages, and those that aren't. This one isn't (see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines) so please take note. poc Ok, I just noticed this part. Had it been less

Re: Audio snap, crackle, and pop

2009-03-01 Thread Steven Stern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2009 12:08 PM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Steven Stern > mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com>> > wrote: > > On 02/28/2009 11:10 AM, Paulo Cavalcanti wrote: > > >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Kanw

Re: kde-4.2

2009-03-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 01 March 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: > >This is part of the Panel Config. You can get that either from the Panel >Settings menu (right-click on empty taskbar) or by hitting the small cashew > at the extreme right of the panel. When that panel is open, hovering over > the icon will change t

FEDORA 8 NETWORK BOOTING

2009-03-01 Thread Antonio Barragan
> > Message: 14 > Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:22:50 +0100 > From: Kevin Kofler > Subject: Re: fedora 8 network booting howto > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Antonio Barragan wrote: >> Since I´m considering Fedora 8 as the linux version to us

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 10:28 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: I also just noticed that in some cases when I hit reply it doesn't go back to the list, but only to the person who answered...the list isn't in the reply to field... I presume you mean li

Re: F10 custom install

2009-03-01 Thread john wendel
Phil Meyer wrote: john wendel wrote: Clueless here, I've got an F10 install running well, and I'd like to move the system to a flash disk. This flash will become the boot device for a small system I'm building. Can I just use "cp" and end up with a workable system? I know that I need to do a

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Alan Cox
> Didn't I agree NM was a nightmare? But your problem is not NM. Your > problem is you don't have a realistic view of software development > practices. If you want to look at poor practice then gdm is a far better example - that *used* to be a usable piece of software then it got "improved" and

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:26:09 -0500 > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> They read the source and developer >> documentation and solve the problem themselves > > Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that > to fix the problems with network instead of deciding > to just ch

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 01 March 2009 15:35:09 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:26:09 -0500 > > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > They read the source and developer > > documentation and solve the problem themselves > > Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that > to fix the problems with network

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 10:35 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:26:09 -0500 > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > > > They read the source and developer > > documentation and solve the problem themselves > > Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that > to fix the problems with net

Re: Off the wall quuestion about browsing.

2009-03-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 15:08:31 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Hiisi wrote: > > By the way, your browser sends some information about your system and > > even language you're using on it in a special header. My favourite > > Fedora' browser - lynx - doesn't send it. Because of that I can't browse

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Horsley wrote: > Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that > to fix the problems with network instead of deciding > to just chuck everything and write a completely > non-functional incompatible "replacement". What you're seeing are bugs in the _driver_, not in NM! Kevin Ko

Re: [Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 10:28 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: > I also just noticed that in some cases when I hit reply it doesn't go > back to the list, but only to the person who answered...the list isn't > in the reply to field... I presume you mean lists other than this one. The Internet mailing list

Re: Broadcom 4306 Wireless in Fedora 10

2009-03-01 Thread Jim
Kevin Kofler wrote: Jim wrote: The b43-fwcutter-011-3.fc9 firmware is what I have installed That's not the firmware, it's the tool which extracts it from the proprietary driver. You have to follow the instructions to get the actual firmware. Kevin Kofler Yes now i have

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 10:26:09 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > They read the source and developer > documentation and solve the problem themselves Too bad the NM developers didn't feel like doing that to fix the problems with network instead of deciding to just chuck everything and write a complete

[Fwd: Re: FC10 Gnome desktop icons gone]

2009-03-01 Thread Gary Waters
Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 19:12 -0500, Gary Waters wrote: I have an interesting issue. I was using KDE for a while, and later logged back into gnome. All the desktop icons were gone, but do appear in the desktop folder from nautilus. The funny part is that I have a

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Matthew Flaschen
Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:07:31 -0500 > Matthew Flaschen wrote: > >> "Translating" every error message is not a >> good use of developer time. > > Yes, it is a far better use of developer time to be inundated > by folks asking what the hell obscure messages and behaviour means.

Re: Sharing yum between several machines

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:04 +1030, Tim wrote: > I don't know how well the system will handle two or more computers > trying to create the same file on the same disc at the same time. In fact this can't happen, as the two file-creation operations will be serialized inside the kernel of the machine

Re: NM: the usual rant

2009-03-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:07:31 -0500 Matthew Flaschen wrote: > "Translating" every error message is not a > good use of developer time. Yes, it is a far better use of developer time to be inundated by folks asking what the hell obscure messages and behaviour means. But, not to worry, it won't be th

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