Re: Resizing with gparted for Fedora installation

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Ryden
Hello, Still I am a little bewildered. I googled and read about it; still here is my dillema: there are 2 options which I consider: 1) running gparted from a Linux LiveCD, freeing space from the vista partition. then rebooting, making sure window vista can start, and then installing Linux on the

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Dean S. Messing
Thanks to all (to many to name individually) for the helpful answers! My colleague may be a new member soon. Dean -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingL

Re: plea for tar-1.21

2009-04-14 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, John W. Linville wrote: >On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:58:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Thursday 09 April 2009, John W. Linville wrote: >> >On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:14:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> Please, either stabilize the device mapping (BTW, how did yo

Re: Running gparted from Live CD

2009-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 17:32 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > After installing F10 on my netbook I decided to reorganize the > > partitions to gain space for Fedora and reduce that available to > > Windows. I booted the Live CD (actually a Live USB pendrive) and use

Re: Problems with system-config-printer and system-config-display (Fedora 10)

2009-04-14 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Bryan Zimmer writes: Greetings, everyone.   I am writing to ask advice for "system-config-display" and "system-config-printer".   In the past, I had no trouble running these commands. Within the last 3 days, I bought a new flat-screen monitor and tried to install a new printer.   When I

Re: Goto [Was Re: Chown ???]

2009-04-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/10/2009 11:32 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: The purpose of deprecating use of goto was to avoid the spaghetti code that was so prevalent, especially in C. spaghetti code is not limited to any language. You can write bad, unreadable code in any computer language. At the time Structured programmi

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/10/2009 09:51 AM, Tim wrote: If you're a moderately old-timer, you can do hex to binary in your head. If you're even older, you can do octal to decimal, and vice versa. For extra brownie points, you know EBCDIC in your head. ;-) I used to and I still have one of my old IBM cards. And

Problems with system-config-printer and system-config-display (Fedora 10)

2009-04-14 Thread Bryan Zimmer
Greetings, everyone. I am writing to ask advice for "system-config-display" and "system-config-printer". In the past, I had no trouble running these commands. Within the last 3 days, I bought a new flat-screen monitor and tried to install a new printer. When I ran "system-config display" and "

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote: > I should say that the setting about allows me to ping > from my laptop to my home server, not in the reverse direction. > However, I cannot think of any reason I would want to do the reverse, > so that does not worry me. Apologies, this was sent several days after the even

Re: Running gparted from Live CD

2009-04-14 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > After installing F10 on my netbook I decided to reorganize the > partitions to gain space for Fedora and reduce that available to > Windows. I booted the Live CD (actually a Live USB pendrive) and used > yum to install gparted on the running system. > > However gparted

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Dean S. Messing wrote: > >> Thanks Kam.  I don't yet have it (which is why I didn't know).  So I >> take it the install from the live-cd is just an ordinary >> Anaconda-based install?  If so, what's the advantage over just using >> the F10 i

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/14 Tim : > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 11:23 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: >> Proprietary is here; we need to deal with it. > I wouldn't be surprised if Redhat, et al, have tried to deal with closed > source companies. They must have done or still do: Name : flash-plugin Repo : rhel-i386

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Dean S. Messing wrote: > Thanks Kam. I don't yet have it (which is why I didn't know). So I > take it the install from the live-cd is just an ordinary > Anaconda-based install? If so, what's the advantage over just using > the F10 install DVD (February respin, of course)? I guess you see the s

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 13:55 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote: >> Kam Leo wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dean S. Messing >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new >> > > m

Running gparted from Live CD

2009-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
After installing F10 on my netbook I decided to reorganize the partitions to gain space for Fedora and reduce that available to Windows. I booted the Live CD (actually a Live USB pendrive) and used yum to install gparted on the running system. However gparted won't let me move the extended hd part

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-14 Thread Tim
Tim: >> Wouldn't it just be counting the totals from the index of each >> folder, not counting all the messages? Jerry Feldman: > Certainly more attractive to read the index files, but still costly. > Remember that there also could be imap folders. I suppose it would depend on the IMAP server.

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread suvayu ali
2009/4/14 Dean S. Messing : >> >> If you have the live-dvd you would have discovered the answer for >> yourself: A menu option is presented to either run the live-cd or >> perform an install. > > Thanks Kam.  I don't yet have it (which is why I didn't know).  So I > take it the install from the liv

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 13:55 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote: > So I take it the install from the live-cd is just an ordinary > Anaconda-based install? More or less... > If so, what's the advantage over just using the F10 install DVD > (February respin, of course)? Smaller disc to download, in the f

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 13:55 -0700, Dean S. Messing wrote: > Kam Leo wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dean S. Messing > > wrote: > > > > > > A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new > > > machine he's purchased. He asked me to help him. I thought I'd try >

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 11:23 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > Proprietary is here; we need to deal with it. Yes, but because of its nature, we only have few ways to "deal with it". If we're lucky, it works. If we're not, it doesn't, and we probably can't do anything about it (we can only do workarounds

Re: F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-14 Thread Rex Dieter
Kevin Kofler wrote: > wwp wrote: >> qt-4.5.0-10.fc10.i386 > > Please use fedora-test-list for test upgrades next time. > > This appears to be: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490377 We've identified vrgb and vgbr font hinting to be broken when built against freetype with FT_CONFI

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Dean S. Messing
Kam Leo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > > > A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new > > machine he's purchased. He asked me to help him.  I thought I'd try > > the "Live install" of which I've read, but have never done before.  It

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 12:44 -0800, Kam Leo wrote: > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > > > A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new > > machine he's purchased. He asked me to help him. I thought I'd try > > the "Live install" of which I've rea

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Hugh Caley
I wouldn't presume to tell Alan Cox what to do, either, and I don't think I did. Apologies if it came across that way. Hugh Message: 10 Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:32:41 -0700 From: Craig White Subject: Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this? To: "Community assistance,

Re: useradd and the default group

2009-04-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 14:42 +, Carl D. Roth wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:29:41 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > > On 13Apr2009 16:28, Carl D. Roth wrote: | Can some one > > explain the following weird behavior with useradd? | # useradd -g mock > > -r -m -d /var/lib/mockuser mockuser |

Re: Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Kam Leo
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Dean S. Messing wrote: > > A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new > machine he's purchased. He asked me to help him.  I thought I'd try > the "Live install" of which I've read, but have never done before.  It > seems like a fast way t

Q about installing F10 from Live DVD

2009-04-14 Thread Dean S. Messing
A colleague of mine is interested in trying Linux Fedora 10 on a new machine he's purchased. He asked me to help him. I thought I'd try the "Live install" of which I've read, but have never done before. It seems like a fast way to install and time-to-install is a bit limited. I looked at the In

Re: Total Number of Emails Managed By Thunderbird

2009-04-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/13/2009 03:13 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 13:41 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: Providing a total count in all folders could be very costly. First, what about imap where you have a server that can store thousands of emails for you, then local folders. Take my case where I have over

Re: shared libraries (not working ld.so.conf.d)

2009-04-14 Thread Steven W. Orr
On Tuesday, Apr 14th 2009 at 05:20 -, quoth David Hl??ik: =>Hello guys, => =>I have patched my own libraries and override locations to them in ld.so.conf.d . => =>Let's just see an example: => =>[r...@david ld.so.conf.d]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/cairo-lcd-x86_64.conf =>/usr/lib64/cairo-lcd => =

Re: useradd and the default group

2009-04-14 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 14:42:32 +, "Carl D. Roth" wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:29:41 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > So from a UNIX programming perspective, then, a test for group membership > is then: > > 1. is the user listed in the group membership list > > OR > > 2. is t

Re: plea for tar-1.21

2009-04-14 Thread John W. Linville
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 02:58:31PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 09 April 2009, John W. Linville wrote: > >On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 01:14:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Please, either stabilize the device mapping (BTW, how did you do that when > >> I didn't even reboot?) or give us

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Craig White
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 11:58 -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > Guess I'll just go look at Youtube with my javascript DOM/SVG viewer and > ... wait ;) > > Personally, I think if Alan Cox contacted the head Linux programmer at > Adobe that would be helpful. > > I also think you guys (we) are winning the

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Hugh Caley
Guess I'll just go look at Youtube with my javascript DOM/SVG viewer and ... wait ;) Personally, I think if Alan Cox contacted the head Linux programmer at Adobe that would be helpful. I also think you guys (we) are winning the Open Source versus proprietary war, slowly but surely. At the m

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Alan Cox
> card. And I can't imagine the time it would take to come up with a > complete drop in replacement for Flash. Probably a lot less now than before as a lot of the documentation has finally been published - presumably because Adobe finally realised that a mostly open microsoft spec versus a total

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Hugh Caley
I'm not sure I agree with all of the arguments about "oh closed source, don't use it". The fact is that Firefox allows the use of proprietary plugins, for better or worse. It doesn't prevent me from using things that don't agree with it's own license (thankfully; I'd rather have this crappy F

Re: F10: Qt applications show corrupted fonts after upgrade

2009-04-14 Thread José Matos
On Sunday 12 April 2009 09:34:52 wwp wrote: > Oh, right. Let me apologize for this, updates-testing was enabled here, > but it's accidental. Thanks! > > > Regards, Try to remove hinting, at least that solved the problem to me when I had that problem: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fedor

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-14 Thread Nifty Fedora Mitch
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 05:15:26PM -0700, Hugh Caley wrote: > Frank Cox wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:26:39 -0700 >> Hugh Caley wrote: >> >> >>> Problem: After running Firefox for a time (a few minutes to 30 >>> minutes) it will start taking 80%+ of CPU (as shown in top) and will >>> keep

Re: Fcron

2009-04-14 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 15:29 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Has anybody used it? Anybody like it? Anybody have anything to say > > about it at all? > > > Sounds like it has much in common with anacron which already comes > with fedora. It does have much in common with ana

Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10

2009-04-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 16:02:16 Robin Laing wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: > >> I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. > >> Maybe it will fix some of my problems. > > > > Sure. It might make coffee for you

Re: Network Routing

2009-04-14 Thread Thom Paine
> /sbin/iptables -t nat --flush > /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -s 192.168.2.0/24 -d 0/0 > -j MASQUERADE > > where 192.168.2.0/24 should match your subnet address > > this works for me, I'm not including the other rules to choke ports. > > -- gary Well I have a program that sets u

Re: Display Resolution Problem

2009-04-14 Thread Jack Lauman
Thanks Richard... 0x318 worked. Richard Shaw wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Kam Leo wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Jack Lauman wrote: I have a Compaq Presario 2500 (Model No: 2525US) When booting into run level 3 (command line) on Fedora 9 the video occupies less than 2/3

Re: Network Routing

2009-04-14 Thread gary artim
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Thom Paine wrote: > I have a server with 3 nics in it. > eth0 is local lan > eth1 is public internet > eth2 is private > > I have most of the routing working in that I can send and receive > traffic that I need on the private network from the server, but not on > t

Re: Chown ???

2009-04-14 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 04/08/2009 06:16 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Jim wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 15:27 +, g wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: ttys 'b-'. you did not answer which model and usage of paper. :) asr33, paper scroll :-) ASR33s also had the pape

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-14 Thread g
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > Ok, it wasn't a very good joke. only in that you spat coffee on your asus. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today ** to mess up a linux box, you need to wo

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-14 Thread g
Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > This was a much funnier post. I spat my morning coffee out over this > Asus EeePC 701G with Ubuntu 9.04 because of this. glad you enjoyed it. when i read poc's post, it just popped into my head and i could not resist. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world wi

Network Routing

2009-04-14 Thread Thom Paine
I have a server with 3 nics in it. eth0 is local lan eth1 is public internet eth2 is private I have most of the routing working in that I can send and receive traffic that I need on the private network from the server, but not on the workstations. I am using iptables for my firewalling, and have t

Re: Kde freezes in Fedora 10

2009-04-14 Thread Robin Laing
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 09 April 2009 18:43:09 Robin Laing wrote: I will have to try removing akonadi. I have not found a use of it yet. Maybe it will fix some of my problems. Sure. It might make coffee for you while it's doing it :-) What makes you think that akonadi has anything

Re: useradd and the default group

2009-04-14 Thread Carl D. Roth
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 04:29:41 +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 13Apr2009 16:28, Carl D. Roth wrote: | Can some one > explain the following weird behavior with useradd? | # useradd -g mock > -r -m -d /var/lib/mockuser mockuser | --> create a new 'mockuser' user > that can be used to run /usr/

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-14 Thread Sharpe, Sam J
2009/4/14 Patrick O'Callaghan : > On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> This was an attempt at a joke based on your three recent threads that >> all contain mention of your new toy. > > Perhaps because they were all questions *about* the new toy? Ok, it wasn't a very good joke

Re: (no subject)

2009-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2009-04-14 at 07:23 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > This was an attempt at a joke based on your three recent threads that > all contain mention of your new toy. Perhaps because they were all questions *about* the new toy? poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscri

Re: Question about update of clamav

2009-04-14 Thread James Kosin
Steven W. Orr wrote: > On Monday, Apr 13th 2009 at 15:34 -, quoth James Kosin: > > =>Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:34:01 > =>From: James Kosin > =>Reply-To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using > Fedora." > => > =>To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for

Re: Wifi won't reconnect on resume

2009-04-14 Thread Linuxguy123
On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 15:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 19:14 +, Beartooth wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:11:02 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > My Asus 1000HE netbook with F10 seems to work well, including suspend > > > and resume, but the Wifi will

Re: openvpn - urgent help requested!

2009-04-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote: > Thanks to you it is now working fine. > The only lines I had to add are: > to zones > > vpn ipv4 > > to interfaces > > vpn tun019

Re: shared libraries (not working ld.so.conf.d)

2009-04-14 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +0200, David Hláčik wrote: > 2) gimp > > [r...@david ~]# ldd /usr/bin/gimp |grep libcairo >     libcairo.so.2 => /usr/lib64/libcairo.so.2 (0x0032ee80) -> > Totally WRONG readelf -d /usr/bin/gimp | grep RPATH 0x000f (RPATH) Libra

shared libraries (not working ld.so.conf.d)

2009-04-14 Thread David Hláčik
Hello guys, I have patched my own libraries and override locations to them in ld.so.conf.d . Let's just see an example: [r...@david ld.so.conf.d]# cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/cairo-lcd-x86_64.conf /usr/lib64/cairo-lcd Now , when I will execute ldd to check for shared library dependencies : 1) gnome

Re: Fcron

2009-04-14 Thread Ed Greshko
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Has anybody used it? Anybody like it? Anybody have anything to say > about it at all? > > Sounds like it has much in common with anacron which already comes with fedora. -- Don't get mad, get even. -- Joseph P. Kennedy Don't get even, get jewelry. -- Anonymous mei-

Fcron

2009-04-14 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
Has anybody used it? Anybody like it? Anybody have anything to say about it at all? jon -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Software request

2009-04-14 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 13 April 2009 21:59:26 Beartooth wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:03:47 +0930, Tim wrote: > [] > > >> so how do I get to vimtutor? Launch it from the CLI? > > I've never tried to use vimtutor, so I can't comment, but if you want a quick- start help, google for 'vi cheatsheet' An