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Hi, The other day while trying to look for some information on the wiki, I got very disappointed with the way the information was organized. Specially the search doesn't seem to return very relevant results unless you know *exactly* what you are looking for. Somehow the heavy use of subpages

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Ambrogio wrote: > Il giorno ven, 29/05/2009 alle 14.52 +1200, Clint Dilks ha scritto: >> > dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/youbettergetthisright bs=1M >> > >> If you want to be really sure you need to do the command above several >> time or use software like >> >> http://w

Re: OT: Pushing back Time

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:12 AM, David wrote: > On 5/29/2009 8:08 PM, Chris wrote: >> On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400 >> David wrote: >> >>> On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: Greetings, Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release of 11. It cracks me u

help: fedora installation to USB external hard disk

I am new for Fedora. I was trying to install Fedora 10 core to my external USB 40GB harddisk using bootable Fedora 10 core DVD. I have unplugged all internal hard disk for any risk. But while installation it was not detecting USB hard disk. Can anybody help me regarding this issue. Regards, Sumit

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Robert L Cochran wrote: > I think the idea of dropping a hard drive in brine is funny. Hence the > ha ha! ok. be aware that you would have to open cover to allow good saturation of inner contents. many drives are sealed in such a way that there is little to no venting. this is to keep moisture o

Re: OT: Pushing back Time

On 5/29/2009 8:08 PM, Chris wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400 > David wrote: > >> On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release >>> of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in >>> the wr

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

is 'ha ha' because of suggestions, or aluminum rusting? I think the idea of dropping a hard drive in brine is funny. Hence the ha ha! if you have no need for drive and wish to insure removing all data, take drive apart, remove disk and burn oxide coating with a torch. or use lighter f

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Robert L Cochran wrote: > Thanks very much to all who responded! I'm going to use Alan's > suggestion first of all if you are going to resell drive/system, ok. > For good measure maybe I'll dump a pound or so of salt in a gallon of > nice hot water and drop the hard drive in and wait for sign

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

On 05/29/2009 05:44 PM, Alan Cox wrote: 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). Doing something like shred /dev/sdX as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive (see the man page for more options). Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct way

Re: Application Server Software For Fedora 10/11/CentOS

On 05/29/2009 12:36 PM, RS wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 22:35 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: I'm interested in setting up a Fedora system as an application server so that it works like/has features similar to IBM's WebSphere Application Server. I can't afford IBM's licensing costs. Is ther

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Zoltan Boszormenyi wrote: > I have a HP Laserjet 1020. I had to run hp-setup from HPLIP > to make it work, it downloaded a proprietary piece of library > to drive the printer. Yeah, this is one of the printers HPLIP does not support out of the box, because it uses a patent-encumbered compression m

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:58:44AM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200 > > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > > > > Thanks hplip team! :-). > > > > > > But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin > > printed on it, and H

Re: Adding X after the fact ...

Ed Greshko wrote: > Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > >>I have a server that was upgraded to FC10 a while back (and kept up >> to date through yum.) When I first did the install, I didn't bother >> to put X on it since at the time I didn't really care to have it now. >> But now I do. So what's t

Re: git & less/vim

Jan te Beest (jteb) wrote: > I think git log is using more, not less .. that's why your console > is not cleaned up. Not by default. Git uses less, unless you set the PAGER or GIT_PAGER environment variables, or set the core.pager setting in git's config. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF

Re: Adding X after the fact ...

Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: > >I have a server that was upgraded to FC10 a while back (and kept up > to date through yum.) When I first did the install, I didn't bother > to put X on it since at the time I didn't really care to have it now. > But now I do. So what's the best way to go about thi

Re: cd to folder with spaces - in a script

Just find . -type d | while read FOLDER; do cd "${FOLDER}"; I reckon ( don't really know the case ) I usually do something like this (might not be most efficient, but I like it for clarity. # for i in $(find . -type d); do cd "${i}"; whatever you want to do in i; cd ..; done Cheers, Jan

Re: git & less/vim

I think git log is using more, not less .. that's why your console is not cleaned up. Cheers, Jan -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=347786&topic_id=71485&forum=10#forumpost347786 If you

Re: Can't get updates

> > Anne Wilson wrote: > I'm having great problem after upgrading F9 to F10 (using an install dvd). I > get huge numbers of updates downloaded, but then it fails. Are the downloaded updates still on your system? /var/cache/yum/updates/packages Sometimes it helps to use yumex or kyum to do the

Re: New user introduction

Oops, sorry Rahul .. shouldn't have replied through private mail :S Thanks for your reply still. Cheers, Jan -- This is an email sent via The Fedora Community Portal https://fcp.surfsite.org https://fcp.surfsite.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=347742&topic_id=71470&forum=10#forumpost34

Re: OT: Pushing back Time

On Fri, 29 May 2009 19:58:37 -0400 David wrote: > On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release > > of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in > > the wrong direction. > > > > For example, a fe

Adding X after the fact ...

I have a server that was upgraded to FC10 a while back (and kept up to date through yum.) When I first did the install, I didn't bother to put X on it since at the time I didn't really care to have it now. But now I do. So what's the best way to go about this? I don't want to redo the wh

Re: OT: Pushing back Time

On 5/29/2009 7:45 PM, Chris wrote: > Greetings, > > Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release of 11. > It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in the > wrong direction. > > For example, a few days ago it said 7 days. Tonight, we're at 11. > Might I suggest

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009/5/30 Patrick O'Callaghan : > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:37 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: >> 2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola : >> > Quoting "Sharpe, Sam J" : >> >> >> >> 2009/5/29 Alan Cox : >> >> 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). >> Doing something like >> >> >>

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009/5/30 Mikkel L. Ellertson : > Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate. >> As Jamie Hyneman once said on "Mythbusters"... >> >>     When in doubtC4! >> > Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me > play with C4

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Rick Stevens wrote: I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate. As Jamie Hyneman once said on "Mythbusters"... When in doubtC4! Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me play with C4 any more. :( Well, I

OT: Pushing back Time

Greetings, Every few days to a week I check the project site for the release of 11. It cracks me up to see the days just seem to be counting in the wrong direction. For example, a few days ago it said 7 days. Tonight, we're at 11. Might I suggest the tag line say something like: It will be relea

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:37 +0100, Sharpe, Sam J wrote: > 2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola : > > Quoting "Sharpe, Sam J" : > >> > >> 2009/5/29 Alan Cox : > > 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). > Doing something like > > shred /dev/sdX > > as root wil

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Rick Stevens wrote: > > I generally take the drives out to the desert and use /sbin/detonate. > As Jamie Hyneman once said on "Mythbusters"... > > When in doubtC4! > Can I come with the next time you take one out? They will not let me play with C4 any more. :( Mike -- Washington DC’s l

F11 /boot and ext4 No can do, Grub does not support /Ext4

Eric, it should go into the documentation for F11. -- Regards Mr. Leslie Leslie Satenstein voice:  514-369-1685    mailto:lsatenst...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 5/29/09, Eric Sandeen  @redhat.com> wrote:   Subject: Re: /boot and ext4 To: lsatenst...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, May

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Sharpe, Sam J wrote: 2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola : Quoting "Sharpe, Sam J" : 2009/5/29 Alan Cox : 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). Doing something like shred /dev/sdX as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive (see the man page for more option

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009/5/29 Jussi Lehtola : > Quoting "Sharpe, Sam J" : >> >> 2009/5/29 Alan Cox : 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). Doing something like shred /dev/sdX as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive (see the man

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

Quoting "Sharpe, Sam J" : 2009/5/29 Alan Cox : 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). Doing something like shred /dev/sdX as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive (see the man page for more options). Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct wa

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

2009/5/29 Alan Cox : >> 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). >> Doing something like >> >> shred /dev/sdX >> >> as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive >> (see the man page for more options). > > Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct way to era

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

> >We use HP and Xerox at work and I would love to get a Xerox Phaser for > >home but that is out of my price range. :) > > I hear that! There seems to be a major fee attached to the use of the word > Xerox. More DRM I seem to remember - funny things with print rollers. In the end I bought a

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

> 'shred' is part of coreutils (i.e. installed by default). > Doing something like > > shred /dev/sdX > > as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive > (see the man page for more options). Whoopeeedoo. Thats still not the correct way to erase a disk. Use security eras

Re: Samba and Windows7 (a comment to an article)

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Leslie Satenstein wrote: > Windows 7 does not do play well with a Linux network running Samba. Unless > you want to update your entire Linux network to the latest version of Samba > (and were not sure that will work) you will not be able to join your Windows > 7 m

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 21:51:57 +0200, Srdan Tosovic wrote: > > as root will write various bit patterns 25 times over the entire drive > (see the man page for more options). If recovery after one pass of rewriting a disk is a credible threat you should be physically destroying the disks. Writ

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

On Friday 29 May 2009, Robin Laing wrote: >Alan Cox wrote: >> O> is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that >> >>> will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to >>> heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and >>> you

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Kevin Kofler írta: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> You have to download the backend from the Brother site to use the >> scanner with SANE. >> > > ... because said backend is not Free Software. Proprietary drivers are evil, > please don't recommend them! > > Kevin Kofler > I ha

Re: OT: Can Reformatting A Hard Drive To ext3 Destroy All the Data On It?

On Thu, 28 May 2009 22:29:23 -0400 Robert L Cochran wrote: > I have a hard drive that I need to destroy the data on. What is the > most dependable way to do this? Can reformatting the drive as ext3 or > ext4 or some other filesystem effectively destroy the existing data? > > Is there free softwa

Re: git & less/vim

Brian Ericson wrote: > Thanks for both the "less" guidance and the EDITOR tip! Sure thing. > (colleague of mine laughed and said he likes to ask that as an > interview question -- "what's the difference between a shell > variable and an envirnoment variable?"). :) > Your mentioning of Fedora's

Re: Kernel update broke my system.

On 5/29/2009 2:27 PM, Smith, Herb wrote: > Can't boot into anything when all you get is the GRUB_ prompt. Wrote to > the help me list to figure out what to do to get my system back. Once I > get it back I'll be able to try a lot of different things. From the > respones of some, it seems that it'

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Alan Cox wrote: O> is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all bur

Re: git & less/vim

I'd gotten used to everything (except for, oddly enough, status) paging and use "git --no-pager" when I explicitly don't want it to page. On 05/29/2009 12:49 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:47:08AM -0500, Brian Ericson wrote: Anyone know how to get git working properl

Samba and Windows7 (a comment to an article)

Windows 7 does not do play well with a Linux network running Samba. Unless you want to update your entire Linux network to the latest version of Samba (and were not sure that will work) you will not be able to join your Windows 7 machine to a Samba domain. Did Microsoft do this by design? Anyone v

Re: git & less/vim

Thanks for both the "less" guidance and the EDITOR tip! Assigning the EDITOR to vim fixes the "git commit" issue (Gentoo assigns EDITOR by default). I think I've got "less" figured out -- Gentoo exports LESS='-R -M --shift 5' (which overrides Git's value/default value). I'd gotten far enoug

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Well, I would prefer a different license for the scanner driver, but > at least they do provide the source code. AFAIK, it's not complete source code, it contains binary objects. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release

Axel Thimm wrote: > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 09:16:39AM -0500, Rex Dieter wrote: >> Axel Thimm wrote: >> > Does it make sense to fold in the f11 updates into the next preview >> > release? E.g. to move all current updates back to rawhide? >> >> Little sense imo... no/little qa/testing, more work,

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > One should waterboard the developer till he/she agrees to write the > manpage. That can't work at a distro level because upstream does not necessarily care about Fedora, some upstreams even actively hate Fedora. We cannot force upstream projects to do anything, we ca

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Friday 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Am I going to write man pages for other folks? Nope. Sorry. First and >> foremost I'm a strong believer in making the developer explain how to >> use their program. Doing so forces them to rethink the issues, makes >> t

Re: make libcurl

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 18:34 +, Thufir wrote: > On Thu, 28 May 2009 05:16:15 -0400, Andrew Parker wrote: > >> No package 'libcurl' found > >> > >> > > do you have libcurl-devel installed? > > > Thanks, progress! Now I'm getting: > > ... > > checking for CURL... yes > checking for JDK locati

Re: make libcurl

On Thu, 28 May 2009 05:16:15 -0400, Andrew Parker wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Thufir wrote: >> >> checking for fprintf... yes >> checking for fwrite... yes >> checking for CURL... configure: error: Package requirements (libcurl) >> were not met: >> >> No package 'libcurl' found >> >

RE: Kernel update broke my system.

Can't boot into anything when all you get is the GRUB_ prompt. Wrote to the help me list to figure out what to do to get my system back. Once I get it back I'll be able to try a lot of different things. From the respones of some, it seems that it's an issue with GRUB, but it's unclear that there

RE: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

> From: Wolfgang S. Rupprecht > Am I going to write man pages for other folks? Nope. Sorry. > First and > foremost I'm a strong believer in making the developer explain how to > use their program. Doing so forces them to rethink the issues, makes > them wonder if something is done logicall

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 29 May 2009 23:25:46 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > but > I demand you write full documentation to go along with it or else ..? Lots of distros already have anal policies about what can or cannot be included (like being licensed only under the One True open source license). I'd love a lin

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 23:25 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 05/29/2009 11:13 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > > > > One should waterboard the developer till he/she agrees to write the > > manpage. > > This is unlikely to be effective as a strategy. Hey, it is somewhat ok > that you give me

Re: git & less/vim

Paul W. Frields wrote: > Funny, I would look at clearing the screen after a git log to be > awful, since I frequently need the commit name for the following > command. :-) That's part of why finding the right default beharior upstream is so difficult. -- ToddOpenPGP -> KeyID: 0xBEAF0CE3

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >Gene Heskett wrote: > >> And that IIRC, was one of the things in my kmenu that never ran, ever. > > > >Then PulseAudio is not working. (pavucontrol at least used to just > segfault > >if PA was no

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On 05/29/2009 11:13 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > One should waterboard the developer till he/she agrees to write the > manpage. This is unlikely to be effective as a strategy. Hey, it is somewhat ok that you give me software for free with open source code voluntarily but I demand you wri

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Kevin Kofler wrote: > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: >> You have to download the backend from the Brother site to use the >> scanner with SANE. > > ... because said backend is not Free Software. Proprietary drivers are evil, > please don't recommend them! > > Kevin Kofler > Well, I would pre

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Friday 29 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> And that IIRC, was one of the things in my kmenu that never ran, ever. > >Then PulseAudio is not working. (pavucontrol at least used to just segfault >if PA was not running or not accepting connections because it didn't find a >work

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Kevin Kofler writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> That is a good example of a contentless man page. I assume it was >> written by some 3rd party that didn't really understand what the program >> did, how it was meant to be used etc. > > It was written by the Debian maintainer to fulfill a p

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On 5/29/2009 12:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:03:44 -0400 > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> And since kde4, we no longer have the >> name of the executable listed in the menu's, there seems to be no way to try >> such stuff from a cli to see what error falls out when it doesn't run

Re: git & less/vim

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:47:08AM -0500, Brian Ericson wrote: > Anyone know how to get git working properly with less and vim? > Specifically: > > * less does not "clear" (revert) the screen properly after commands like > "git log" and "git diff" > * vim isn't using the git extensions/file ty

Re: Kernel update broke my system.

On 5/29/2009 1:16 PM, David Burns wrote: > Is there a way to test whether my system has this problem without rebooting? > Dave > >> the Updater is doing that job, and it nuked my >> system too. You do realize that the kernel that was running when you did the update is still installed? This one t

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Gene Heskett wrote: > From: Gene Heskett > Subject: Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 8:05 AM > On Friday 29 May 2009, Craig White > wrote: > >On Fri, 2

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

On Friday 29 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >Gene Heskett writes: >> We will never convince the Lexmarks of the world to give us working >> driver writing information until we are a more significant piece of >> the market, one they will have to play with on our terms IF they want >> to sel

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Les wrote: But if one already has a system running windows and converts to Linux, this is not a good option. The software should run with stuff that is already working to be a good product. Otherwise we will just continue to be an "also ran" operating system. Les, if you can convince some of

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > That is a good example of a contentless man page. I assume it was > written by some 3rd party that didn't really understand what the program > did, how it was meant to be used etc. It was written by the Debian maintainer to fulfill a policy exactly like the one you

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On 05/29/2009 10:58 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > The air up there must be pretty thin. How do you expect anyone to write docs > when they have no knowledge of it? That is probably how we got here in the > first place... Start with what you know, use a search engine, go through the upstream de

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Alan Cox writes: > You honestly think the bad guys wouldn't just sniff the wire, disassemble > the driver and write printer exploding worms given the chance. I didn't get the impression that they were as worried about their printers being targeted by worms as much as they were worried that they

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On 05/29/2009 10:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm afraid this comes across as smugness. While I'm willing to do some > polishing of documentation if asked, actually writing docs for something > like PA (or NM, another bugbear of many people here) when one has no > idea how it actually wo

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Am I going to write man pages for other folks? Nope. Sorry. First and > foremost I'm a strong believer in making the developer explain how to > use their program. Doing so forces them to rethink the issues, makes > them wonder if something is done logically enough

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Friday 29 May 2009, Craig White wrote: >On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:00 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Gene Heskett writes: >> > Nah, couldn't be related. When you add that there are exactly zero >> > configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, >> > ahh forget it, t

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Kevin Kofler writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> I think you are reading it much to literally. > > The policy you're proposing (and incidentally, also the Debian policy) is > that literal. Requiring good documentation makes sense (though it's hard to > define "good documentation"). Requirin

Re: git & less/vim

Brian Ericson wrote: > Anyone know how to get git working properly with less and vim? > Specifically: > > * less does not "clear" (revert) the screen properly after commands > like "git log" and "git diff" [...] > Both of these work properly in Gentoo (and vim -- but not less -- > works properly in

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > You have to download the backend from the Brother site to use the > scanner with SANE. ... because said backend is not Free Software. Proprietary drivers are evil, please don't recommend them! Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com T

Re: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?

> Another distribution to try would be: http://moblin.org/ . It is a bit > like Xandros but nicer and is a Fedora fork, Moblin isn't really as of itself a distribution or a Fedora fork (although clearly it draws some material from Fedora, just as Fedora does from Debian, and Debian from Fedora an

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Friday 29 May 2009, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 13:35 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, >> ahh forget > >Hey, careful with those acronyms there :-) > >poc Chuckle, sorry about that Patrick, not intended of cou

Re: Kernel update broke my system.

Is there a way to test whether my system has this problem without rebooting? Dave >the Updater is doing that job, and it nuked my > system too. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Konstantin Svist wrote: > > Is there a driver wrapper for printers out there (similar to > > ndiswrapper)? If not, there should be :P > > No, there shouldn't! We'll never get native, Free drivers that way. I don't > want to have to use crapp

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

O> is done by the host computer. There are things the printer can do that > will break the printer. We are talking about things like how long to > heat the little wire to flash-steam the ink etc. Do it for too long and > you damage the wire. On the mickysoft driver, this is all buried in a > bi

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Rahul Sundaram writes: > If you want to help, you don't really need policy. Do you want to help? In the last few years I haven't written much OSS, but you can be sure that when I do, I do dig out my troff notes and cobble together a man page for it. I do practice what I preach. Am I going to w

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Tom Horsley wrote: > But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin > printed on it, and HP's product pages don't mention linux or point > to the hplip site. Indeed. They even write: "System Requirements: Window$ or Mac". They aren't willing to officially support their own G

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200 > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Thanks hplip team! :-). > > > But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a penguin > printed on it, and HP's product pages don't mention linux or point > to the hplip site. If I was HP, I'd want

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 09:08 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:00 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Gene Heskett writes: > > > Nah, couldn't be related. When you add that there are exactly zero > > > configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, > > >

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 17:58 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > Point Of Contention > > Or Proof Of Concept, which would actually fit in that sentence. Though I > think it's also not what was meant here. ;-) Not to mention Point Of Contact, a term used in IETF documents. I imagine

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > I think you are reading it much to literally. The policy you're proposing (and incidentally, also the Debian policy) is that literal. Requiring good documentation makes sense (though it's hard to define "good documentation"). Requiring it to be in manpage format and

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On 05/29/2009 10:06 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > > Good documentation is lacking, people are complaining and we have people > saying that "I don't think we need such a policy in Fedora." Amazing. If you want to help, you don't really need policy. Do you want to help? Rahul -- fedora-li

Re: Application Server Software For Fedora 10/11/CentOS

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 22:35 -0400, Robert L Cochran wrote: > I'm interested in setting up a Fedora system as an application server so > that it works like/has features similar to IBM's WebSphere Application > Server. I can't afford IBM's licensing costs. Is there an open source > application ser

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Kevin Kofler writes: > Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >> Back in my first unix job a zillion years ago the company I worked for >> had this rule that nothing got installed in a public */bin directory >> anywhere unless it also had a man page describing all the command line >> options installed into

Re: EeePC - Fedora or Ubuntu?

On 05/29/2009 09:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Timothy Murphy wrote: >>> I suppose there isn't an eeeFedora? >> >> There used to be an Eeedora, but it is outdated (based on Fedora 8 >> which is >> no longer supported and only targeting the original EeePC 701). The stock >> F

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

On Fri, 29 May 2009 17:22:54 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Thank the HPLIP team for that. :-) Thanks hplip team! :-). > (No, I don't work for HP nor on the HPLIP project, I just like the fact that > it just works out of the box.) But what is really unfortunate is that the box doesn't have a pengu

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Friday 29 May 2009, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: >Gene Heskett writes: >> Nah, couldn't be related. When you add that there are exactly zero >> configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, >> ahh forget it, this is fedora and we are supposed to bleed for the >> cause, ri

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:03:44 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > And since kde4, we no longer have the > name of the executable listed in the menu's, there seems to be no way to try > such stuff from a cli to see what error falls out when it doesn't run. One bit of arcana worth knowing for just this si

Re: WSJ - Article on Linux netbooks

Gene Heskett writes: > We will never convince the Lexmarks of the world to give us working > driver writing information until we are a more significant piece of > the market, one they will have to play with on our terms IF they want > to sell us their printers. I'm told by an engineer there that

Re: Rotate touchpad

Alessandro Boggiano wrote: > I found a guy that made it work with ubuntu > (http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/synaptics/) > and I know that it's possible doing it "on-the-fly" with XP. > > Something for fedora ? The same hack should also work in Fedora. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-list mailing li

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 08:00 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Gene Heskett writes: > > Nah, couldn't be related. When you add that there are exactly zero > > configuration tools to aid us in making this undocumented POC work, > > ahh forget it, this is fedora and we are supposed to bleed for

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ...

Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Back in my first unix job a zillion years ago the company I worked for > had this rule that nothing got installed in a public */bin directory > anywhere unless it also had a man page describing all the command line > options installed into the appropriate man director

Re: I'd like to get rid of pulseaudio but ... (Gene Heskett)

>Gene Heskett wrote: > And the last time I looked, a bit over a month ago, there was no hint of Let me Google that for you: gets us to: which pointed us to: Pat --- --

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