Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines (specifically the part about repetitive posting) Also, please keep questions on-topic. For your style of comment/question it may make more sense to start a

Re: auto-updates

2009-08-06 Thread Stuart McGraw
On 08/04/2009 11:36 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 11:30 -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote: I just installed Fedora 11 on my new pc. Shortly thereafter I was presented with a pop-up box that said 28 security updates were available. I (foolishly as it turned out) clicked the update b

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Fedora policy is like GAYS IN THE > MILITARY ===> DONT ASK DON'T TELL and DON'T BOTHER :) Red Hat, for better or for worst (see my thread on Shuttleworth and Debian), is a publicly traded company. If you're a stock holder, you /might/ have something to say in the way it

Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 00:44 +0530, devesh gade wrote: > Inserted installation cd in rescue mode and then following commands at > the prompt: > 1 grub > 2 root (hd0,0) > 3 setup (hd0) > 4 exit > 5 reboot > > However even after rebooting the grub screen does not show up at > startup and Windows XP b

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Just rememberthe only opinions that matter are his. I've worked with people like that, in the past. I avoid it as much as possible, now. I get really annoyed with people who ask questions (advice, opinions, etc.) when they don't actu

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:58 -0500, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > P.S.: Is the wrapping on the message I sent messed up? If it is I'd > like to know so I can fix it somehow. I am using the KMail component > inside of Kontact that is the current version in Fedora 11. Wrapping seems fine, but it helps

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 17:18 -0600, Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > I don't understand why for this bug priority is considered low and > severity is considered only medium. I would have expected a high > priority and a high severity. After all, this blocks entire > applications. Can any one explain? T

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ?? -- Dumb Typo

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 20:39 -0400, William Case wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:40 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > William Case wrote: > > > Thanks Rick; > > > > > Hmmm. Works a treat here on F10 and F11 (x86_64), but I've not mucked > > with my inputrc files: > > > > [r...@prophead ~]# cat /e

Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?

2009-08-06 Thread Tony Nelson
On 09-08-06 14:46:31, stan wrote: ... > You are trying to update firefox while it is running. While this is > theoretically possible, it is also possible that firefox has locked a > component that the update process needs to access. In other words, > get out of firefox until the updates complete

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 06:51 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > As I already said > elsewhere, since this the most general Fedora forum and there is none > peculiar to that matter, this is where it should be discussed. you are becoming a broken record... https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > >> the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the > >> compression/de

Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread T. Howell-Cintron
devesh gade wrote: > Inserted installation cd in rescue mode and then following commands at > the prompt: > 1 grub > 2 root (hd0,0) > 3 setup (hd0) > 4 exit > 5 reboot Boot the rescue CD,.. $ chroot /mnt/sysimage $ grub-install /dev/sda Change /dev/sda to your primary bootable drive. -- Tom --

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 08:38 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > > > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > >> the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the > >> compression/de

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, gil...@altern.org wrote: > From: gil...@altern.org > Subject: What are Microsoft codecs? > To: fedora-list@redhat.com > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:50 PM > What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more > than an encapulation of MP4? What's > the legal status of MP4? apparen

Re: Where is whats new setup?

2009-08-06 Thread Tim
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:43 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: > That "nonsense" is one of the best features of FF. I was more or less > forced to use Opera before FF got it. Opera had an even better features with that recovery dialogue, you could make bookmarks of those pages, instead of re-open them. T

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Ed Greshko wrote: > Craig, Craig, Craigyou fail to understand. He wants you to find the > info for him so that he can disagree with you and then reopen his > "discussion" about "market share". > > As evidenced by his most recent post...he also wants people that > disagree with him, and who ca

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:40 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > William Case wrote: > > Thanks Rick; > > Hmmm. Works a treat here on F10 and F11 (x86_64), but I've not mucked > with my inputrc files: > > [r...@prophead ~]# cat /etc/inputrc > # do not bell on tab-completion > #set bell-style none > >

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-06 Thread Antonio Olivares
--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Anne Wilson wrote: > From: Anne Wilson > Subject: Re: Are you being heard? > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." > > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:56 PM > On Wednesday 05 August 2009 22:45:02 > Gar Nelson wrote: > > I guess that's

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > Hello Jack > Using the following command: "grep -i usb dmesg" I got the following: > http://www.afolkey2.net/~steve/dmesg-20090806 > > "grep -i hub dmesg" returned the following: > hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found > hub 1-0:

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
gil...@altern.org wrote >> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> The Internet has a vast amount of information and if you want more >> targeted information, try wikipedia.org...they will have the answers to >> each of the things you are wondering about above, including w

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Ed Greshko
Craig White wrote: > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > >> What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's >> the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the >> compression/decompression algorithms -- which must have been developed by >> ma

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > I just tried setting the column that text is wrapped at from the > original 80 to 85. > On MY system that fixed the quoting issues of my parts of > messages. I never saw a > problem from your end, it was all in my portions of the > messages...> > Steven P. Ulrick > I h

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > The Internet has a vast amount of information and if you want more > targeted information, try wikipedia.org...they will have the answers to > each of the things you are wondering about above, including what makes > ODF files smaller.

Really OT: Shuttleworth tries to deal with Debian

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols article. Excerpt. 'Shuttleworth means that if all the Linux distributions would try to co-ordinate their distribution release dates it would make life much easier for upstream developers to support multiple Linux distributions. Today, if I'm an upstream developer, say t

Re: What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 05:50 +0500, gil...@altern.org wrote: > What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's > the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the > compression/decompression algorithms -- which must have been developed by > mathematicians decades ago -- is

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:37 PM, wrote: >>On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, >>wrote: >>> Oliver Said: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >> >>     Hello, >> >>  I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp >>

HTTP_Referer problem

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
When I go to this page: http://evalweb.cum.qc.ca/Role/recherche.asp and click any link, I get the message: (Vérifier les paramètres de sécurité de votre pare-feu (Firewall) afin de nous permettre d'accéder au HTTP_Referer sans encodage(Activation des cookies).) Which means: Verify security par

What are Microsoft codecs?

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
What are Microsoft codecs? Is it more than an encapulation of MP4? What's the legal status of MP4? Once you have at hand the compression/decompression algorithms -- which must have been developed by mathematicians decades ago -- is there so much work involved in writing codecs? Has the reason they

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
>On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, >wrote: >> Oliver Said: >>>On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu >>>Ali wrote: Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > >     Hello, > >  I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp > from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
> Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > P.S.: Is the wrapping on the message I sent messed up? If it is I'd like > > to > > know so I can fix it somehow. I am using the KMail component inside of > > Kontact > > that is the current version in Fedora 11. > > > Only with the quoting. That always happens

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
es I might have, in addition to the power button, > > reset > > button, two USB ports and assorted lights. > > > > Thank you in advance for anything you can do to help me :) > > > > Steven P. Ulrick > > > > > how about looking at dmesg out

Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 00:44 +0530, devesh gade wrote: > hi friends!! > I had windows xp and fedora 9 in dual boot mode.Recently,I formatted > my windows XP. during this process,XP had deleted the boot loader of > fedora. I have tried to reinstall the boot loader by the installation > cd in the resc

Re: kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
>>sam.sharpe wrote: >> >>> There is however, no guarantee that akmod will generate a working >>> module >> >>I'm sure experts on this group aren't afraid the lesser bit by what you >>say here, but I find that rpmfusion does a really good job of making >>sure everything just works. And they do it in

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > Oliver Said: >>On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu >>Ali wrote: >>> Oliver Ruebenacker wrote:     Hello,  I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, I don't understand why for this bug priority is considered low and severity is considered only medium. I would have expected a high priority and a high severity. After all, this blocks entire applications. Can any one explain? Thanks! Take care Oliver On Thu, Aug 6, 2009

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
Oliver Said: >On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu >Ali wrote: >> Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >>> >>>     Hello, >>> >>>  I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from >>> Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try in bash: >>> >>>  javaws http://vcell.org/webstart

Digital TV & Totem

2009-08-06 Thread Mike Adolf
Greetings Totem has the menu selection "Movie/Watch Tv on DVB adapter 0". When making this selection I get the message. - Totem cannot play this type of media (Digital Television) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it. Does anybody know wha

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, Yes, sounds like the same bug, says it's fixed "upstream". So, how long should we expect the river to take to flow down to us? Thanks! Take care Oliver On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >> >>     Hello, >> >>  I am unable to sta

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread jack craig
On 08/06/2009 01:22 PM, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, t

Re: OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Suvayu Ali
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: Hello, I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try in bash: javaws http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp I get: netx: Invalid XML document syntax It seems to be this bug

OpenJDK java web start fails to open jnlp files version 1.5

2009-08-06 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, I am unable to start http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp from Firefox (although it works under MS Win) and when I try in bash: javaws http://vcell.org/webstart/Rel/vcell.jnlp I get: netx: Invalid XML document syntax It seems to be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.

Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?

2009-08-06 Thread stan
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 14:12:55 -0700 jackson byers wrote: > [r...@f10 ~]# yum info yum\* > Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit > Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 8024. > Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to > exit... The

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Stevens
William Case wrote: Thanks Rick; On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 14:46 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: William Case wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:29 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: Mikkel, I would prefer to be lazy too. However, Control+right-arrow simply produces ";5C" at the cur

Re: kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
>sam.sharpe wrote: > >> There is however, no guarantee that akmod will generate a working >> module > >I'm sure experts on this group aren't afraid the lesser bit by what you >say here, but I find that rpmfusion does a really good job of making >sure everything just works. And they do it in a very

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
Thanks Rick; On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 14:46 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > William Case wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:29 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >> William Case wrote: > > Mikkel, I would prefer to be lazy too. However, Control+right-arrow > > simply produces ";5C" at the cursor on m

How To Use yum-builddep

2009-08-06 Thread Robert L Cochran
I'm trying to learn how to build an rpm package correctly. When I do this with yum-builddep to build the dependencies on a source package, I get this: [...@deafeng3 SRPMS]$ su -c 'yum-builddep --enablerepo=rawhide --nogpgcheck augeas-0.5.2-2.fc12.src.rpm' Password: Loaded plugins: presto, ref

Re: kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
sam.sharpe wrote: > There is however, no guarantee that akmod will generate a working > module I'm sure experts on this group aren't afraid the lesser bit by what you say here, but I find that rpmfusion does a really good job of making sure everything just works. And they do it in a very timely m

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread Rick Stevens
William Case wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:29 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: William Case wrote: I am lazy - for moving back forth is a line, control of the arrow keys moves word instead of character. Control of backspace deletes deletes to the beginning of the word, and control of delet

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: >> Dumb question - can you plug in something like a USB light and see >> if it powers up? > I'll have to try getting something like that. > >> It does sound like a hardware problem. If it does >> not, check if you plugged in the connector on the motherboard 1 row >> down fr

Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?

2009-08-06 Thread jackson byers
Stan responded >You are trying to update firefox while it is running. While this is >theoretically possible, it is also possible that firefox has locked a >component that the update process needs to access. In other words, get >out of firefox until the updates complete. >If you leave firefox do

Re: GParted missing from Fedora Live.

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:30:35 +0100 Grzegorz Witkowski wrote: > It sounds a little "weird" to download > GParted every time you want to use it from live CD. What if you do not > have net access? Well, if you setup a bootable liv usb stick with an overlay, you can download gparted to that, and it w

Re: Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread David Christopher Chipman
Steve Blackwell wrote: http://xkcd.com/619/ Steve Hi Steve, That was "interesting". The only problem with it was the example. The user was complaining about something which The Open Source community has little control over. They're complaining about Flash video performance. Later, -David

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
> Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > > Hello Everyone > > I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro > > SuperWorkstation > > 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of > > the > > machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately,

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:29 -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > William Case wrote: > I am lazy - for moving back forth is a line, control of the arrow > keys moves word instead of character. Control of backspace deletes > deletes to the beginning of the word, and control of delete deletes > to en

Re: Failed dependency check on update

2009-08-06 Thread David Boles
On 8/6/2009 4:19 PM, Les wrote: > Hi, everyone, > I just got a failed dependency check: > > em8300-kmod-common >= 0.17.3 is needed by package > kmod-em8300-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686-0.17.3-1.fc10.2.i686 > (rpmfusion-free-updates) : Success - empty transaction > > So I am guessing that th

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
Hi; On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 14:39 -0400, William Case wrote: > Thanks Tom; > > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:25 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 I have placed these codes in /etc/inputrc which is where I really want them so that they are universal. That didn't work, so

Re: Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Steven P. Ulrick wrote: > Hello Everyone > I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro > SuperWorkstation > 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the > machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, > those > two

Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
devesh gade wrote: > hi friends!! > I had windows xp and fedora 9 in dual boot mode.Recently,I formatted my > windows XP. during this process,XP had deleted the boot loader of > fedora. I have tried to reinstall the boot loader by the installation cd > in the rescue mode but it does not work. > I a

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
William Case wrote: > Thanks Tom; > > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:25 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: >> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 >> William Case wrote: >> >>> Is there a tutorial or manual that explains or shows what those modifer >>> codes mean. That is, I know "\e" must mean ESC key but what d

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
Thanks Jerry; On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:45 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 08/06/2009 02:39 PM, William Case wrote: > For those of you who don't have the little booklets we got from DEC, > here is a URL for VT100 codes. http://www.termsys.demon.co.uk/vtansi.htm > That at least satisfies my curio

Two USB ports dissappeared...

2009-08-06 Thread Steven P. Ulrick
Hello Everyone I am running a Fedora 11 system based on the Supermicro SuperWorkstation 5046AXB. It has approximately 10-12 USB ports, with two on the front of the machine that are very handy for my camera and card reader. Unfortunately, those two ports in front seem to have disappea

Failed dependency check on update

2009-08-06 Thread Les
Hi, everyone, I just got a failed dependency check: em8300-kmod-common >= 0.17.3 is needed by package kmod-em8300-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686-0.17.3-1.fc10.2.i686 (rpmfusion-free-updates) : Success - empty transaction So I am guessing that the kmod stuff is in flux right now. I seem to

RE: Very VERY Weird problem with Fedora 11 x86_64 net install CD...

2009-08-06 Thread Casartello, Thomas
Yeah I'm having trouble getting anything to work on this thing. Let me know if you get anything working. Thomas E. Casartello, Jr. Staff Assistant - Wireless/Linux Administrator Information Technology Wilson 105A Westfield State College Red Hat Certified Technician (RHCT) -Original Message-

Re: kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread sam . sharpe+lists . redhat
gil...@altern.org wrote: >Phil Meyer wrote: >> The akmod tools will rebuild the kernel module(s) for you >> on the boot of the new kernel. > > Really? I thought it involved some extra manip. Here's my last kmod > upgrade: > >Aug 06 14:34:22 Updated: >xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-185.18.31-1.fc11.x86_64

Re: windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread Timothy Murphy
devesh gade wrote: > I had windows xp and fedora 9 in dual boot mode.Recently,I formatted my > windows XP. during this process,XP had deleted the boot loader of fedora. > I have tried to reinstall the boot loader by the installation cd in the > rescue mode but it does not work. > I also did a bit

(no subject)

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
Was: kmod-nvidia revisited. hijacking another thread Phil Meyer wrote: > On 08/06/2009 01:11 PM, Michael Hannon wrote: > A new kernel comes out that is important to you. The kmod-XXX modules > will normally lag a new kernel for a week in testing I had the nvidia driver installed for the last 2

GParted missing from Fedora Live.

2009-08-06 Thread Grzegorz Witkowski
Hi, I followed a threat about GRUB on the list and I found mentioned there that GParted is missing from Fedora Live CD. I haven't tried live yet, using other distro as live. Eventually it would be nice to use both live and installed the same distro. It sounds a little "weird" to download GParted e

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 08/06/2009 02:39 PM, William Case wrote: > Thanks Tom; > > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:25 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 >> William Case wrote: >> >> >>> Is there a tutorial or manual that explains or shows what those modifer >>> codes mean. That is, I kn

Re: kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread Phil Meyer
On 08/06/2009 01:11 PM, Michael Hannon wrote: Hi, folks. I just wanted to say a few (more) words about the kmod-nvidia issue that I raised yesterday. First, I apologize for hijacking a previous thread. I was just trying to grab the address of the list. The deeper ramifications didn't occur to

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 08/06/2009 12:42 PM, William Case wrote: > I got some advice re: Fedora live CD and gparted from this list that is > worth passing on. You can boot using the Fedora live CD. Once it is > fired up 'yum install parted gparted' for one time use. > > You then don't have to mount a hard disk. It

windows XP deleted bootloader,need to reinstall it

2009-08-06 Thread devesh gade
hi friends!! I had windows xp and fedora 9 in dual boot mode.Recently,I formatted my windows XP. during this process,XP had deleted the boot loader of fedora. I have tried to reinstall the boot loader by the installation cd in the rescue mode but it does not work. I also did a bit of googling and f

kmod-nvidia revisited

2009-08-06 Thread Michael Hannon
Hi, folks. I just wanted to say a few (more) words about the kmod-nvidia issue that I raised yesterday. First, I apologize for hijacking a previous thread. I was just trying to grab the address of the list. The deeper ramifications didn't occur to me at the time. Second, as several people hav

Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?

2009-08-06 Thread stan
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:29:23 -0700 jackson byers wrote: > here is current > [r...@f10 ~]# ps ax |grep -i firef > 8024 ?SN 1:05 /usr/bin/python > /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py update-packages > firefox;3.0.13-1.fc10;i386;updates&gnome-python2-extras;2.19.1-33.fc10;i38

Re: Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread gilpel
rday wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Steve Blackwell wrote: > >> http://xkcd.com/619/ >> >> Steve > > it would have been funnier if he'd been asking about radeon driver > support. :-) For sure, Flash works perfectly here. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https:/

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
Thanks Tom; On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 13:25 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 > William Case wrote: > > > Is there a tutorial or manual that explains or shows what those modifer > > codes mean. That is, I know "\e" must mean ESC key but what does the > > various other co

Re: Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 06 August 2009 19:00:32 Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Steve Blackwell wrote: > > http://xkcd.com/619/ > > it would have been funnier if he'd been asking about radeon driver > support. :-) Btw, the part regarding the Intel driver in the pipeline is not a joke at all..

Re: Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Steve Blackwell wrote: > http://xkcd.com/619/ > > Steve it would have been funnier if he'd been asking about radeon driver support. :-) rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo,

RE: Very VERY Weird problem with Fedora 11 x86_64 net install CD...

2009-08-06 Thread Eddie Duffy
I'm getting the exact same thing with attempting an F11 installation on our new R710s here. The system does not respond to any keypress at all after the initial message "Press the key to begin the installation process". I also tried with an old F7 disc, which got a lot further but stalled at one

Re: security updates causing firefox trouble?

2009-08-06 Thread jackson byers
Sam Varshavchik responded >>jackson byers writes: >>is it safe to : >> --quit firefox? > Yes. >>--kill the 8024 python.yum process? > No. Don't do that. Ok, i have quit firefox and restarted it, and i can now go to other sites but I still have that security updates process run

Re: Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 13:13:14 -0400 William Case wrote: > Is there a tutorial or manual that explains or shows what those modifer > codes mean. That is, I know "\e" must mean ESC key but what does the > various other codes (e.g. "[1~") mean -- for sure. I'm pretty sure it just means those charac

Linux humor (depending on your point of view)

2009-08-06 Thread Steve Blackwell
http://xkcd.com/619/ Steve -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Intel DX58S0 (i7) motherboard and pci=nommconf

2009-08-06 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 10:26 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > I asked about this the other day with no response so I'll bring it up again, > and include some detail that may be useful to others. > > This computer is has an Intel i7-940 CPU and a DX58S0 motherboard. I have > updated it to the latest bios

Interrpreting modifier codes in /etc/inputrc ??

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
Hi; I have the following codes in my readline inputrc: # for linux console and RH/Debian xterm "\e[1~": beginning-of-line "\e[4~": end-of-line "\e[5~": beginning-of-history "\e[6~": end-of-history "\e[3~": delete-char "\e[2~": quoted-insert "\e[5C": forward-word "\e[5D": backward-word "\e[1;5C":

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Craig White wrote: > personally, I think it is too risky but it's your setup... > > dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=446 count=1 > > You asked what is the best way, I answered but apparently you don't like > best way answers. > > Craig > > Is that going to work? Grub first stage relies on the phy

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Jay Mistry
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Everything is now copied over but I am > still in doubt of the new drive's MBR sector. > > Question: using gparted, does it also include > the boot sector MBR when copying over the > first partition or do I have manually copy the > boot s

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread William Case
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 09:09 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:46 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > Craig White wrote: > > Yes, gparted can do that; copy partitions from drive to drive. Very. very > > handy program, especially when it exists on a LiveCD so that you can > > wor

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 09:18 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > personally, I think it is too risky but it's your setup... > > > > dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=446 count=1 > > > > You asked what is the best way, I answered but apparently you don't > like > > best way answers. > > > > Craig > No...

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:46 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:23 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Smartd has reported that I have 7 uncorrectable errors and it appears to be located in my swap partition. Zeroing out

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:46 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:23 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > > > >> Smartd has reported that I have 7 uncorrectable > >> errors and it appears to be located in my swap > >> partition. Zeroing out the swap part

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread T. Howell-Cintron
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Question: Could I simply use dd to copy over the MBR from drive to drive > or is it too risky? It seems you could - see the discussion on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132902 - but I'd suggest using grub-install /dev/sdX instead. -- Tom -- fedora-list maili

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-06 Thread Hiisi
KDE4 has a big and growing user base. When it was first introduced, things where a bit sharp at the edges, but by now it is a very powerful and beautiful desktop environment. People who like traditional, Windows-like desktops can use Gnome, XFCE or other. Nevertheless, I hear that Windows-, OSX

Re: Where is whats new setup?

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:43 +0200, Andras Simon wrote: > That "nonsense" is one of the best features of FF. I was more or less > forced to use Opera before FF got it. Agreed, however once in a while it thinks there's a problem with restore and asks what I want to do (with the option of selectively

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:23 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: Smartd has reported that I have 7 uncorrectable errors and it appears to be located in my swap partition. Zeroing out the swap partition and mkswap, failed to correct it. So it seems that the drive after less tha

Re: The ideal mail client?

2009-08-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 15:28 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > >> Never used IMAP, but believe KMail does it as well as POP mail, at > >> least for sane interpretations of the words "sane way". :-) > > > > POP and IMAP are two very different animals. AFAIK Kmail was des

Re: GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2009-08-06 at 08:23 -0700, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: > Smartd has reported that I have 7 uncorrectable > errors and it appears to be located in my swap > partition. Zeroing out the swap partition and > mkswap, failed to correct it. So it seems that > the drive after less than 1 year has go

Re: Where is whats new setup?

2009-08-06 Thread Srdan Tosovic
On Thu, August 6, 2009 4:36 pm, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:07:10 +0200 (CEST) > Srdan Tosovic wrote: > >> On Thu, August 6, 2009 3:59 pm, Tom Horsley wrote: >> > Found it! In theory I can set (in about:config) the >> > parameter browser.startup.homepage_override.mstone to the >> > s

GRUB question

2009-08-06 Thread Daniel B. Thurman
Smartd has reported that I have 7 uncorrectable errors and it appears to be located in my swap partition. Zeroing out the swap partition and mkswap, failed to correct it. So it seems that the drive after less than 1 year has gone bad. Looks like I will have to RMA the drive as it is still under

Re: kmod-nvidia?

2009-08-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 06 August 2009 12:04:31 Matthew Saltzman wrote: > I'm surprised the thread has gone on this long without pointing this > out: > > If you install the akmod-nvidia package, it will rebuild the driver > automatically when you boot a new kernel. I used to do that, but I gave up eventually.

Re: Where is whats new setup?

2009-08-06 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 06 August 2009 14:59:55 Tom Horsley wrote: > Oh, Firefox crashed! Let's go directly back to the page that > made it crash! I don't remember firefox crashing on me because of website content. I don't even remember it crashing for any other reason, either. The single situation where th

Re: Where is whats new setup?

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:07:10 +0200 (CEST) Srdan Tosovic wrote: > On Thu, August 6, 2009 3:59 pm, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 15:43:15 +0200 > > Andras Simon wrote: > > > >> On 8/6/09, Tom Horsley wrote: > >> > Whenever I start firefox for the first time after an update, > >> > it jer

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