Re: DVD burning issue

2009-09-27 Thread David Boles
On 9/27/2009 1:01 PM, Les wrote: On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 22:12 +0200, mo wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 17:09 -0400, David Boles wrote: Isn't CD functionality supposed to be included in DVD functionality? I thought that DVD is sort of backward compatible with CD. By the way, I have also

Re: yum-presto not on by default

2009-09-25 Thread David Boles
On 9/25/2009 1:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 12:43 -0400, David Boles wrote: 'lurker mode off' Comment from a 'lurker' You developers and all do a fine job with this. *But* you all seem to have the same wrong idea about *most* regular Linux users. At least the ones

Re: DVD burning issue

2009-09-25 Thread David Boles
On 9/25/2009 1:57 PM, Les wrote: Hi, everyone, I am having difficulty burning an ISO to try F11 on another computer. I want to burn the live iso image to a dvd. I have tried this several times and get a really stupid error. It appears the whole disk is created, and the finished

Re: Hatred of Fedora 11 turned to glee

2009-09-24 Thread David Boles
On 9/24/2009 6:59 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 15:32 -0700, jdow wrote: Not only have my problems instantly disappeared, but I've learned two new things about Fedora: : PulseAudio has GUI options for everything : Fedora development team kicks arse If it was THAT good the

Re: F10 Update errors

2009-09-08 Thread David Boles
On 9/8/2009 3:42 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:57:14 -0400, vincent wrote: The second set of errors is the same, the main yum process is trying to access an empty list. Maybe your rpm db is corrupted. Try running rpm --rebuilddb and when it completes try the yum

Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread David Boles
On 9/6/2009 4:23 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I've replaced F-10 on this computer with F-11 using the Omega live cd and so far everything seems perfect for the stuff that I use. One of the easiest Linux installs yet! And a lot of bandwidth was saved in doing the updates! That's an important factor

Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread David Boles
On 9/6/2009 7:12 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: --snip-- Yes, I've been using F10 for a while and the 2.x t-bird was quite satisfactory. I don't see any advantage to this version yet? I gzipped the file but it still wont fly! Thunderbird could not install the file at

Re: Thunderbird config date non-compat.-

2009-09-06 Thread David Boles
On 9/6/2009 7:47 AM, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote: On 06/09/09 12:31, David Boles wrote: --snip-- You guys are making this hard. Don't 'unzip' the package. 'open' it with the default archive tool, edit the install.rdf file (open it with a test editor, when you 'save' the edited

Re: Custom installation of Fedora

2009-08-23 Thread David Boles
On 8/23/2009 7:28 PM, Roger wrote: On 08/23/2009 06:50 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 23 August 2009 00:13:28 Markus Kesaromous wrote: During fedora install, if the user selects a customized install rather than the default, the user has to manually click on each and every app in the

Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-22 Thread David Boles
On 8/22/2009 5:47 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2009 02:52:37 David Boles wrote: Ya know. That is odd. From Thunderbird I pulled up 'the' page and, never looking, sent it. Sorry. Same plugin from the same person. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/6543 Yup

Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread David Boles
On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/21/2009 07:30 AM, mike cloaked wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: You can't be running TB 3.0b3 with lightning and enigmail, right? I don't think those plugins work in that version...at least I wasn't able to install them...with any

Re: Thunderbird does not shutdown properly in F11?

2009-08-21 Thread David Boles
On 8/21/2009 4:31 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 08/21/2009 03:40 PM, David Boles wrote: On 8/21/2009 1:22 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: I just ran a short test, and thunderbird shuts down cleanly for me (F11.x86_64). And, yes, I am up-to-date with thunderbird (3.0b3) and running both

Re: auto-updates

2009-08-07 Thread David Boles
On 8/7/2009 10:11 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 06:43:59 -0700 stan wrote: Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login so it doesn't lock up the update process as soon as I do the first login before I can disable it :-). snip You can do that. It's

Re: auto-updates

2009-08-07 Thread David Boles
On 8/7/2009 11:07 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: 2009/8/7 Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net: Me too. I just wish I could turn off packagekit before I ever login so it doesn't lock up the update process as soon as I do the first login before I can disable it :-). There are many ways to disable it

Re: Failed dependency check on update

2009-08-06 Thread David Boles
On 8/6/2009 4:19 PM, Les wrote: Hi, everyone, I just got a failed dependency check: em8300-kmod-common = 0.17.3 is needed by package kmod-em8300-2.6.27.29-170.2.78.fc10.i686-0.17.3-1.fc10.2.i686 (rpmfusion-free-updates) : Success - empty transaction So I am guessing that the kmod

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-05 Thread David Boles
On 8/5/2009 11:18 PM, gil...@altern.org wrote: Marco wrote: On Thursday 06 August 2009 00:36:32 gil...@altern.org wrote: Make sure widgets are unlocked. Right-click on the folder view widget I don't see any view widget folder. As a matter of fact, the only way I can see anything on my

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-05 Thread David Boles
On 8/6/2009 12:39 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: David Boles wrote: Are you blind? Did you not see the link in Anne's post? No, unfortunately, I'm not blind. I believe that's going to be it for me on the KDE matter. You like it? Use it! That's your choice of course. I use GNOME myself

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-05 Thread David Boles
On 8/6/2009 12:43 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: David Boles wrote: Are you blind? Did you not see the link in Anne's post? No, unfortunately, I'm not blind. I believe that's going to be it for me on the KDE matter. You like it? Use it! I forgot. To tell you the truth, I'd rather switch

Re: Are you being heard?

2009-08-05 Thread David Boles
On 8/6/2009 12:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: David Boles wrote: On 8/6/2009 12:43 AM, gil...@altern.org wrote: David Boles wrote: Are you blind? Did you not see the link in Anne's post? No, unfortunately, I'm not blind. I believe that's going to be it for me on the KDE

Re: How to gut %$##@ Firefox?

2009-08-02 Thread David Boles
On 8/2/2009 3:06 PM, Beartooth wrote: They make it incredibly tedious to get rid of all their miserable language-pack cruft -- and the minute you turn your back, they shove it all in again. Is there a way to prevent / disable that abominable practice? Or has the

Re: why are my e-mail not get through?

2009-07-30 Thread David Boles
Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 30 July 2009, Justin P. Mattock wrote: I've sent one e-mail that seemed to go through to the list, but then another which gives me the failure notice from *.de why? Justin P. Mattock I'm drowning in those. Why someone would subscribe to a list such as this,

Re: why are my e-mail not get through?

2009-07-30 Thread David Boles
Justin P. Mattock wrote: David Boles wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 30 July 2009, Justin P. Mattock wrote: I've sent one e-mail that seemed to go through to the list, but then another which gives me the failure notice from *.de why? Justin P. Mattock

Re: Mail bounce loop, I'm drowning in it.

2009-07-30 Thread David Boles
Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings; hacker...@versanet.de Please unsubscribe this person ASAP, his server is bouncing the list messages back to our private in-boxes. If you go to the listed unsubscribe url there is a list of the people that maintain this list at the bottom. -- David

Re: Mail bounce loop, I'm drowning in it.

2009-07-30 Thread David Boles
Antonio Olivares wrote: --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: From: Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net Subject: Mail bounce loop, I'm drowning in it. To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora. fedora-list@redhat.com Date:

Re: Mail bounce loop, I'm drowning in it.

2009-07-30 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 01:01 -0400, David Boles wrote: It's like a strange form of SPAM. Something to disrupt the list and to distract the members. The word you're hunting for is trolling. Last time I used that word, trolling, I was told that I was wrong

Re: Streaming video capture problem - SOLVED

2009-07-29 Thread David Boles
David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view

Re: fedora consumer satisfaction statistics

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
David L wrote: Is there any way to rank one's satisfactions with different components of fedora and the release as a whole? It would be really nice if people could express their displeasure or lack thereof without (or in addition to) sending emails to the list. For example, a lot of people

Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her mother has no computer to view it with. Nothing that I have tried

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her mother but her

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 17:19, Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 16:32, David Boles wrote: Try firefox add-ons: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6541 http://www.oneandother.co.uk/flowplayer/flowplayer.commercial-3.1.1.swf?0.605755713305492 If you use firefox

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 12:48 -0400, David Boles wrote: I am trying to capture it. wget? How? There is, or does not appear to be, any visible URL associated with the video feed on display. If you use the FlashBlock plugin for Firefox, any blocked Flash content has a right-click

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote: Flash block is/was disabled. You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click option on the blocked content. Useful for what? Nothing in the blockable items list is the link to the video. Flash Block

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On 27/07/09 19:33, David Boles wrote: snip Maybe? http://www.eglug.org/node/2079 Looks interesting. I'll try this when I get home tonight. Thanks. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed later. She want to show this to her

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 21:11:36 David Boles wrote: Tim wrote: On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 14:33 -0400, David Boles wrote: Flash block is/was disabled. You could re-enable it for a moment, then you get the useful right-click option on the blocked content. Useful for what

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 21:12:30 David Boles wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash

Re: Streaming video capture problem

2009-07-27 Thread David Boles
suvayu ali wrote: 2009/7/27 David Boles dgbo...@comcast.net: On Monday 27 July 2009 16:32:32 David Boles wrote: I have a friend that perched herself on a plinth in Trafalgar Square as part of a 'live sculpture' project. The streaming video is Flash. And the videos are archived can be viewed

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-26 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: David Boles wrote: Fedora has its place. Fedora is a distribution for the user that is smarter that what they are doing. The user that can solve a little problem. ... (K)Ubuntu has its place. They are distribution for the 'install it and forget it' crowd. They do all

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread David Boles
Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2009 06:11:30 gil...@altern.org wrote: jack craig wrote: Really, pausing for a few seconds still seems to me like the best option. The way out is easier than I thought but when a newbie comes to Linux and he's already afraid because everybody says

Re: Why Fedora is for experts only?

2009-07-25 Thread David Boles
Suvayu Ali wrote: On Saturday 25 July 2009 08:34 AM, David Boles wrote: (K)Ubuntu has its place. They are distribution for the 'install it and forget it' crowd. They do all the setups and configuration and all of the nanny hand holding. This 'install it and forget it' crowd then sits

Re: What is the point of the NM keyring?

2008-07-20 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: But that made me wonder what possible point the keyring password could have? Is it intended as some kind of security device? As far as I can see, you have to be logged in to run NM, and if you are logged in you can delete this file. I might say

Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo. Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses, or just the closest geographically? Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all mirrors support rsync. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Mirrors(?) for local repo

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 08:07 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: How do you know the correct mirrors for rsync a local repo. Is it by the biggest bandwidth one chooses, or just the closest geographically? Closest does not necessarily mean 'fastest'. And not all

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles
Ric Moore wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 05:56 +, g wrote: It might be better to avoid the use of labels as much as possible. I know it's hard to do in practice. Sadly, I have my share of favorites. Idiot just rolls off the fingers when typing it. So does Twit. That's a really good one.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-22 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Sun June 22 2008 19:18:46 David Boles wrote: A sensible person would run CentOS, or RHEL, or one of the many others, for a server. It would be foolish to run any distro, such as Fedora, there are many others, in a production type situation. Would it meet your definition

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to download 'everything'? To fill up space on your hard drive? ;-) Seriously. That would be

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 08:32 -0400, David Boles wrote: Frank Murphy wrote: What is the best method to download everything under the ../Everything .../Fedora from one of the mirrors wget? waht options Need the F9 stuff for testing. Why would you want to download

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: Arthur Pemberton wrote: They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda like Pulse Audio, NetworkManager, etc I fear that will be a very long wait ... Actually, NM has been getting slowly but steadily better on my

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:21 -0400, David Boles wrote: But do you really need all of the office suites? All of GNOME? Or KDE? Or Apache? All of the language packages? ;-) And Anne is correct here. Fedora has said before that some things just don't play together well

Re: Downloading everything under .../Everything .../Fedora

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 09:42 -0400, David Boles wrote: http://www.howtoforge.com/creating_a_local_yum_repository_centos or question #11 here http://wiki.linux.duke.edu/YumFaq As for keeping the downloaded packages? change keepcache=0 to keepcache=1 in the yum.conf file

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Timothy Murphy wrote: David Boles wrote: Chill out guy. All you are hearing is the sour grapes. The 'happiest' never post. Except for Anne. Maybe happy pills should be circulated with Linux distributions ... Seriously, I think Anne is too kind. I am genuinely puzzled by the minor problems

Re: Can't get flash-plugin working in FF3 ??

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
William Case wrote: Hi; The subject of media has been something I have avoided, so I am a newbie at understanding what I might be doing wrong. I am running F9 -x86_64 and FireFox3. Yum shows me flash-plugin (Adobe Flash Plugin 9.0.124.0 arch i386) is installed. Firefox 'about:plugin' shows

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer controls even control. It is a choice. If you, either of you, do not like it you should disable it. But I seriously doubt that

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 14:36 -0400, David Boles wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2008-06-22 at 02:40 +0930, Tim wrote: Totally agree with this. It's hard enough even figuring out what the various mixer controls even control. It is a choice. If you, either

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well the main idea behind PA is to eradicate that problem since it will be a super set And, as I said, I have no problems with Pulseaudio. Why? Well I have a desktop with 'normal' hardware.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: I'm expecting KDE 4.2 or KDE 4.3 to be suitable for prime time. They should arrive in Fedora in May 2009 and November 2009. I can't promise anything at this time (also because upstream hasn't decided on a schedule for 4.2 yet,

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Sat June 21 2008 16:53:07 David Boles wrote: KDE 4.0 was released on schedule in January. KDE 4.1 is still on track for July. So you did see the proposed schedule? And were aware of the possible problems. Good work. Most Fedora and Ubuntu releases are on time

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 20:28 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 23:24 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com writes: People who do software development wouldn't care whether it's KDE 3.5 or KDE 4 Actually they'll want KDE 4. Who

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-21 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Sat June 21 2008 19:15:57 David Boles wrote: David, you asked this question. I answered it. You asked if I had answered your question and asked your question again. I answered your question again. Now you reply to my answer to your question by asking the same question

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote: My experience is that each Linux distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux users benefit from having options. Precisely. I use CentOS where I need total stability, Mandriva where I want ease

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 18:09 -0400, David Boles wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote: My experience is that each Linux distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux users benefit from having options

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 18:09 -0400, David Boles wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote: My experience is that each Linux distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux users benefit from having options. Precisely. I

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote: Em Sexta 20 Junho 2008, David Boles escreveu: Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 20 June 2008 21:09:57 Craig White wrote: My experience is that each Linux distribution has its own strengths and weaknesses and that all Linux users benefit from having options. Precisely

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Arthur Pemberton wrote: 2008/6/20 David Boles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [ snip ] As for switching distros? You don't really believe that the other distros won't go to KDE 4.x.x too do you? ;-) They'll wait till Fedora users and other similar early adopters have helped iron out the bugs. Kinda

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Fri June 20 2008 15:09:10 David Boles wrote: Ok. How many of those of you that are disappointed or upset with KDE 4.x did any research *before* you installed/upgraded? How many of you downloaded a KDE Live-CD and actually tried it *before* you installed/upgraded? Please

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Kevin Kofler wrote: Paul Johnson pauljohn32 at gmail.com writes: He is speaking for me. I was a RedHat / Fedora user 10 years, 1 month ago, I became an Ubuntu user. FYI, Kubuntu is dropping KDE 3 support in Intrepid Ibex, which will be released at about the same time as Fedora 10.

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Fri June 20 2008 16:33:27 David Boles wrote: This thread has become a whiners contest. Who can whine the longest or the loudest. Or both. We surrender David. You win. Hi Mike. I was not looking for that. ;-) Linux is choice. You chose what to use, or not to use. You

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10? I want it too !

2008-06-20 Thread David Boles
Mike Bird wrote: On Fri June 20 2008 18:50:45 David Boles wrote: But you do know that you new distro will switch to KDE 4.0 soon too right? Your definition of soon must be different than mine: Fedora will support KDE 3.5 until approximately December 2008. Kubuntu will support KDE 3.5 until

Re: Any hope of KDE 3.5 in F10?

2008-06-14 Thread David Boles
Kevin Kofler wrote: Mike Bird mgb-fedora at yosemite.net writes: We all make mistakes. Shipping KDE 4.0 in F9 was a mistake. It would be insulting to the members of the Fedora KDE SIG to assume that they would repeat their mistake in F10. Hence the title of this thread. Oh, and I forgot in

Re: Booting F9 with NO X11

2008-06-08 Thread David Boles
Kenneth Lee wrote: id:3:initdefault: --Scott Kidder The problem was, that I could NOT get to a console in order to change the inittab file. I added text to the boot command line so that I could get to a console. It's 3 that is added to the end of the

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-08 Thread David Boles
Roger Heflin wrote: David Boles wrote: Hotmail I would probably agree with, but both gmail and yahoo provide higher end paid for service if you want it, and both yahoo and gmail are sub-contractors for a number of ISP's mail systems. I am on gmail because my ISP's email had enough issues

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-06 Thread David Boles
Roger Heflin wrote: David Boles wrote: Roger Heflin wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Mike Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It seems that there are many clueless people who could never write a web page but seem to feel more than qualified

Re: make thunderbird NOT show html

2008-06-06 Thread David Boles
Roger Heflin wrote: David Boles wrote: Roger Heflin wrote: David Boles wrote: Roger Heflin wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Mike Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, It seems that there are many clueless people who could never write