Re: reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-06 Thread Joel Rees
r was it the other way around?) in /etc/ fstab . (who'da thunk? especiallly with the zero-length partition thing 8-p) (I left the bug there because the error messages could be improved, but my problems are solved.) On Jan 1, 2010, at 5:00 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Just before it reboots, i

Re: Best way to get minimal system

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
m partition later on. One note, for command-line only stuff, I sometimes prefer openBSD. Depends on what and why. Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.

Re: reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
Okay, I had a little more time this morning, so, ... On Jan 5, 2010, at 6:11 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Joel Rees wrote: yum provides libfreebl3.so tells me that nss-softokn-freebl is installed. Trying an erase to re-install it tells me that

Re: I can't startup my Fedora 12

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
something like separate "Fboot" and "Cboot" MSDOS-level partitions for Fedora's /boot, and Cent OS's /boot, respectively.) Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Jan 3, 2010, at 12:51 AM, Roberto Ragusa wrote: Joel Rees wrote: yum provides libfreebl3.so tells me that nss-softokn-freebl is installed. Trying an erase to re-install it tells me that most of the OS and most of the apps seem to be dependent on it, one way or another. Hmm. Bypass

Re: Fedora Basic End User Rollout Support Operation

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
g true custom systems. (And I don't mean packages customized to a market niche. I do not mean packages, at all.) And, of course, there are Ubuntu and other non-Red Hat distributions that have slightly different focus. Joel Rees, free-associating a little -- fedora-list mailing list fedo

Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
Yes, and I did, mostly with custom, over and over again. Id est, I tried to increase the size of /boot any way I could, and never found any way to add a single byte. Are you talking about increasing the size of /boot before or after the install? (I can't tell.) Incidentally, my memory

Re: PythonCard?

2010-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Jan 2, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Roger wrote: On 01/01/2010 07:17 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Anyone using it? Anyone know why attempting to install it would load the library parts of the package but fail to put the appropriate files in /usr/share? Do you mean PythonCad, if so yes but its not my

PythonCard?

2010-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
Anyone using it? Anyone know why attempting to install it would load the library parts of the package but fail to put the appropriate files in /usr/share? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://

reboot cycle, no log messages

2010-01-01 Thread Joel Rees
it, one way or another. Hmm. This looks like I need to file a bug or two. Anyone know what's happening here? Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: How do you clear a botched kernel on a PPC system?

2009-09-28 Thread Joel Rees
On Sep 27, 2009, at 3:20 AM, a helpful person wrote me off-list: (Leaving out the name in case the off-list was intentional. Or maybe it was because it was a reply to my mis-post to the -test-list.) On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 07:19:45PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: it tells me that I should try

Re: How do you clear a botched kernel on a PPC system?

2009-09-26 Thread Joel Rees
On 27 Sep 2009 10:05:04 +1000, David Timms wrote, On 09/26/2009 08:27 PM, Joel Rees wrote: I find myself in another nice catch 22. ... So I'm having a hard time with things today. Can someone put me out of my misery? Yeah, mate, take that .22 above and... Thanks for the sympathy. ;-/

How do you clear a botched kernel on a PPC system?

2009-09-26 Thread Joel Rees
.5-191.fc11.ppc init=/ initrd-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.ppc.img and such, but all of them failed to execute, suggested specifying init= and left me at 180 seconds to reboot. So I'm having a hard time with things today. Can someone put me out of my misery? Joel Rees -- fedora-list mai

Re: name server via dhcp, but don't want dhcp assigned addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:37:12, Sam Varshavchik replied, Joel Rees writes: The WAN side of the router runs dhcp to my ISP, and gets the dns server addresses by dhcp, as well. Check your router's documentation. The way that 99% of these routers are set up, is that they run a ca

name server via dhcp, but don't want dhcp assigned addresses

2009-09-21 Thread Joel Rees
o text configuration files in /etc/dhclient.d? (nis.sh and ntp.sh don't seem to be the files I need.) Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

F11: Fedora's Netbeans, Eclipse, and Tomcat.

2009-09-21 Thread Joel Rees
; 6. > [...] Against? Why against? I usually simply let each one load its own class tree where it wants to. Lots of duplication, but it saves a lot of time. Not pretty, but it generally gets things working. Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https

Re: amaya in repos?

2009-07-20 Thread Joel Rees
Okay, my report on trying to compile Amaya for ppc. On Jul 19, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Joel Rees wrote, Ed Greshko responded, Joel Rees wrote: > Amaya shows to be orphaned, last entry is Fedora 9: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/amaya? _c

Re: Linux "NULL pointer dereferece" in the News...

2009-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
Woops. Didn't intend to mess threading up that much. (Apologies for messing up the threading yet one more time, and for cluttering up the fedora thread with more stuff that is only semi- relevant here.) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.co

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2009-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
(Apologies for messing up the threading yet one more time, and for cluttering up the fedora thread with more stuff that is only semi- relevant here.) Michael Eager wrote, ... Compilers determine what modifications they can make to the code using the inferences they make based on the data flo

Re: Linux "NULL pointer dereferece" in the News...

2009-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
(Sorry about hashing the threading.) Tom Horsley commented, On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:49:42 -0700 Michael Eager wrote, > OK, write a description of how to determine one case from the > other and I'm sure every compiler developer will rush to implement it. The fact that they already have a -fno-

Re: Linux "NULL pointer dereferece" in the News...

2009-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
Rahul Sundaram wrote, On 07/19/2009 11:31 PM, Tom Horsley wrote, > On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:11:52 +0530 > Rahul Sundaram wrote, > >> It is not so simple. This is not a compiler bug. I suggest you read >> through http://lwn.net/Articles/341773/rss to understand why. > > I did. It is a compiler bug n

Re: amaya in repos?

2009-07-19 Thread Joel Rees
Ed Greshko responded, Joel Rees wrote: > Amaya shows to be orphaned, last entry is Fedora 9: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/amaya? _csrf_token=1e50eca0476c3f20d764e66baf5cfd9654b11dc6 > > > Neither yum info nor yum search seem to find it. At lea

amaya in repos?

2009-07-17 Thread Joel Rees
Amaya shows to be orphaned, last entry is Fedora 9: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/amaya? _csrf_token=1e50eca0476c3f20d764e66baf5cfd9654b11dc6 Neither yum info nor yum search seem to find it. At least, not on a ppc machine. Have orphaned projects been removed? Would t

Re: ssh clarification needed

2009-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
On Jan 5, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: * authentication keys - those are what you use to log in instead of a password. They're one per user and machine unless you explicitly copy the private key to a different machine or user account (something you normally shou

Re: ssh clarification needed

2009-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
empirical. Well, ... On Jan 5, 2009, at 1:44 AM, Robert L Cochran wrote: Mail Lists wrote: On 01/04/2009 11:24 AM, Mike Cloaked wrote: By the way if your root partition was not encrypted then someone with physical access to your machine could boot into single user mode and get root acc

Re: ps2 mouse pointer wanders away

2008-10-12 Thread Joel Rees
Tying up some loose threads as I have time -- On Aug 16, 2008, at 8:15 AM, Joel Rees wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Joel Rees wrote: I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems to happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a message digest check o

update notification dialog conflicts with authenticate dialog

2008-09-27 Thread Joel Rees
What I was doing: I was checking to see if a couple of volumes had mounted properly. Got the "Enter the root password." authenticate dialog. (Why isn't that a sudo dialog like the Mac OS presents, so you don't have to give out the root password to everybody?) Then the updater dialog pops

Re: FireFox 3 EULA

2008-09-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Sep 16, 2008, at 11:55 PM, Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Joel Rees wrote: If you do not agree to the GPL, you have no license at all, and the only thing that allows you to use the software in any way is fair use. Fair use does not necessarily cover running the software

Re: FireFox 3 EULA

2008-09-16 Thread Joel Rees
I really don't have time for this tonight. On Sep 15, 2008, at 9:01 PM, Steve Hill wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Joel Rees wrote: [...] Some apps show you a EULA for the GPL when they install. And if you can7t agree to the GPL, you can click disagree and refrain from installing. Th

Re: lose network after re-boot

2008-09-14 Thread Joel Rees
On Sep 14, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Joel Rees wrote: I just tried the Save item in the File menu of the Network Settings tool. Rebooted and the interface is still down. But this time, when I try to bring up the Network Settings tool, I get a message dialog, about trying to

lose network after re-boot

2008-09-14 Thread Joel Rees
I lose my network after every re-boot. I have the same thing happening on my AMD desktop box and my iBook G4. I can get it back up with the nice GUI network tool, just by hitting the enable button. Then it works. Then I reboot and it doesn't work, until I click that button in the GUI netwo

Re: Secrecy and user trust

2008-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
y tend to be used against that purpose more than for. The best use of the keys is as a checksum. Isn't that clear? Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: [FWW] method for minimum install

2008-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Sep 13, 2008, at 5:59 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On Sat, 2008-09-13 at 17:30 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: I suppose, when I calm down, I'll now have to go start playing with rawhide and join the developers list and learn how to write code to fix this junk, but, haven't they had a C

[FWW] method for minimum install

2008-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
#x27;ll now have to go start playing with rawhide and join the developers list and learn how to write code to fix this junk, but, haven't they had a Carly Simon moment on this -- a "What on earth was I think of?" moment? Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@red

Re: multibooting ppc with Mac OS 9 & X on an ancient iBook

2008-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Craig White wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 15:24 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: (Giving a little more detail:) On Aug 23, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Craig White wrote: Actually, I pre-partitioned the yaboot partition and the Linux big partition with the Mac OS X utility, as

Re: question on a kernal "uhhuh" message

2008-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
Boot off the CD/DVD. At the "boot:" prompt, enter "memtest86" and off you go. Is there a "memtestppc", as well? Listing bootable images showed a "check". When I gave that a run, it went for a while, to something more than 70% and then wandered off into the ether -- black screen, as if it o

Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

2008-08-25 Thread Joel Rees
y stages. From the information so far, that's what it was, and the post-mortem in such cases does take time. Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: multibooting ppc with Mac OS 9 & X on an ancient iBook

2008-08-24 Thread Joel Rees
(Giving a little more detail:) On Aug 23, 2008, at 12:07 PM, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 09:58 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: I recently tried installing Fedora 9 on an iBook that I need to boot both Mac OS 9 and Mac OS X on. I also have some other partitioning constraints, so I ended

security blankets (was Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?)

2008-08-24 Thread Joel Rees
icantly more paranoid and more cautious than we usually should be. The original announcement should have been enough, even if it wasn't perfect. Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: H.D. install problem -

2008-08-24 Thread Joel Rees
iately. If you chain, I think you'll end up editing the old grub's configuration as well, because of the drive numbering problem. Wish I had time to write a tutorial on it, but such do exist on the web. Some will be old and send you in the wrong direction, so look for something recen

Re: non-disclosure of infrastructure problem a management issue?

2008-08-23 Thread Joel Rees
e is dependent on that "Proprietary" vendor, is basically living on borrowed time and illusions. It's definitely time to run a tight ship now. [...] Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

japanese keyboards and xorg (and macs?)

2008-08-22 Thread Joel Rees
When running the installer, my Japanese iBook takes the US keyboard map, which is not totally evil, just a little bit confusing at times. In openBSD, I have been able to get most of the keyboard mapped to the Japanese keyboard, merely by copying the jp keyboard mapping file from /etc/X11/xk

multibooting ppc with Mac OS 9 & X on an ancient iBook

2008-08-22 Thread Joel Rees
would it be possible to boot with openBSD's approach, invoking an openfirmware script on the Mac OS 9 boot disk? (I haven't been able, yet, to untangle the web of what happened when yaboot became usable.) Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Infrastructure report, 2008-08-22 UTC 1200

2008-08-22 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 22, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: [Information on the intrusion, etc.] This time through has been a little bit rough. Nothing like a first time ... Not all the information I want, yet, but definitely much better than what Microsoft gives out. Thanks. Joel Rees

Re: Infrastructure status, 2008-08-19 UTC 0200

2008-08-21 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 22, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Jim Cornette wrote: Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:35:20 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: I myself am not on the announce list Why not? Because I never thought the list was informative. This is a perception that needs correcting. Unfortunately, the

Re: sudo GUI frontend

2008-08-21 Thread Joel Rees
at the machine is already pwned, but you're ignoring the non-ideal behaviors of browser technology. Also, there's the less tangible benefit, in that the correct use of sudo raises the general awareness that we shouldn't surf the web naked. (So to speak.) -- Joel Rees

Re: (slashdot)Package Managers As Achilles Heel

2008-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
Just being alarmist, here, On Aug 18, 2008, at 5:42 AM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Björn Persson wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/10/227220&from=rss Two things bother me about this. First of all, most users are not using

Re: Cannot boot after the last updates

2008-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 16, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machi

Re: Cannot boot after the last updates

2008-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Paul Smith wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Craig White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine: it stops when the line GRUB appears on the screen. Any ideas how to repair the problem? I am running

Re: Cannot boot after the last updates

2008-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Aug 16, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 17:39 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote: On Friday 15 August 2008 05:12:54 pm Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 20:00 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, After the last updates were installed, I cannot boot in my machine:

Re: avasys drivers and PM-A850 scanning

2008-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
(Apologies for the threading.) Joel Rees wrote: > Sorry, I was not very clear. > > I tried scanning from the gimp. IIRC it was xsane that complained > that it could not find the driver. ok. did not mention what you tried either. :0) It was a late night when I posted, I'm

Re: ps2 mouse pointer wanders away

2008-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
Ed Greshko wrote: Joel Rees wrote: I find that I often lose control of the mouse pointer. It seems to happen more when I'm seeding torrents, or running a diff or a message digest check on the download, or doing other things that load the system. Sempron 2600, single processor

ps2 mouse pointer wanders away

2008-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
#x27;m being too lazy to go digging into the X11 settings today.) Joel Rees (waiting for a 3+GHz ARM processor to come out, to test Steve's willingness to switch again.) -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: avasys drivers and PM-A850 scanning

2008-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
g wrote: Joel Rees wrote: > Or, preferably, point me > to a properly open solution? have you considered xsane? Sorry, I was not very clear. I tried scanning from the gimp. IIRC it was xsane that complained that it could not find the driver. When I went looking, that's when I

Re: apple boot partition causes error in install

2008-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
Status: On 平成 20/08/01, at 10:45, Joel Rees wrote: Been mucking around with my vintage clamshell ibook, trying to get fedora 9 to install in a multiboot configuration. Today I hit what appears to be a show-stopper for me. I try to cut a 1 MB apple_boot partition and the partitioning

avasys drivers and PM-A850 scanning

2008-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
to give me a few clues before I go hunting tomorrow, I'd appreciate it. (Sempron 2600, Pasokon Koubou's private Librage brand with a K4 mobo, IIRC.) Joel Rees Joel Rees (waiting for a 3+GHz ARM processor to come out, to test Steve's willingness to switch again.) -- fedora-li

apple boot partition causes error in install

2008-07-31 Thread Joel Rees
. Anyone successfully running F9 on an iBook? Joel Rees -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list