Re: Installation plays hardball

2010-01-05 Thread Jud Craft
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:29 AM, John Aldrich wrote:  It's all there in the GUI, and it's completely configurable. Nothing is  forced down on you, AFAIK. That's true. However, it *defaults* to LVM. i.e., users who did not change the defaults/do not know the implications of the defaults/do not

Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-03 Thread Jud Craft
That was definitely informative. Thanks for the explanations. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

Re: Mono.Cecil monodevelop-debugger-mdb

2010-01-01 Thread Jud Craft
No, we should patch the broken packages to work with the current Mono.Cecil. And upstream deserves a beating for this attitude. :-/ Why am I not surprised this is coming from the M$-loving Mono community? Shouldn't Fedora take upstream's design into account? It's their software, after all.

Re: F12: KDE and PulseAudio latest update

2010-01-01 Thread Jud Craft
How to I get Skype to use my USB webcams mic ? GNOME should allow you to choose which device for speaker input. Doesn't the webcam mike show up under Sound Properties (right click on speaker in bar)? -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe:

Re: small gripe -- for Fedora, or KDE, or ....?

2009-12-30 Thread Jud Craft
*Why* do I get so much more info about Gnome apps than KDE ones, *who* could change that, and *where* can I make the request and expect it to be on topic? All this technical mumbo-jumbo aside. Basically, it's because GNOME treats the KDE apps unfairly. Yes, it's lame. Yes, it's a known

Re: Sound volumes giving you fits?

2009-12-09 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:21 AM, Eric Mesa wrote: THANK YOU SO MUCH for the info on how to fix PulseAudio. My ears have been blasted to the point of pain when using my ear-covering studio headphones and Fedora suddenly decided to go full volume on a rock song. I will implement your fix when I

Re: where's the GNOME sound recorder?

2009-12-01 Thread Jud Craft
Thanks! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

missing HP printer drivers for PSC 12xx series?

2009-12-01 Thread Jud Craft
My Hewlett-Packard printer-scanner-copier 1210 auto-detected and installed automatically just fine in Fedora 11. In 12, it says can't find driver for HP Series 1200 PSC or somesuch. Clicking search on the alert shows the giant vendor list of drivers, and sure enough, the HP PSC drivers stop at

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Bojan Smojver wrote: Rudolf Kastl writes: intel (i965) works fine... You are lucky. Major regressions there in F-12. On my hardware, this used to work when nomodeset was passed to kernel. Now, it doesn't any more. With KMS, on the other hand,

Re: Fedora 12 Graphics Issues: Cancel F13 and concentrate on fixing F12 ?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
For the Qt-demo rendering issue on intel, it is fixed by Qt 4.6. Good to hear! -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list

where's the GNOME sound recorder?

2009-11-30 Thread Jud Craft
It doesn't seem to be included from my LiveCD installation of Fedora 12. PackageKit returns no queries for recorder related to the GNOME desktop, and of course Multimedia category and sound queries are too large to search manually. A yum search sound | grep recorder also returns nothing. --

Re: Pulseaudio in F12

2009-11-29 Thread Jud Craft
I have two sound cards installed: one onboard and another PCI. The PCI, the one I do no use very much, works fine. The onboard is the one which does not save the volumes. Every time I call an application its master and pcm volume go to the maximum (I see the sliders going to the top in

Re: Setting up a VM to run an F12 guest on an XP host

2009-11-29 Thread Jud Craft
Can't vanilla QEMU do virtualization with only user privileges and no formal installation? Don't know if it would be useful, but maybe an interesting experiment. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:

crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
I assumed, via the release notes, that the new Xorg operates in extend-desktop mode by default. However, I'm not sure. When I hook up a running Fedora laptop to a projector, my desktop is extended. Very nice. When I hook up the same projector and then -boot- my Fedora laptop, I am set to

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: This is intentional. Plymouth is rendering the same boot animation on all heads; not sure we can do much better. Oh, I don't mind that at all. That's awesome. I understand that clone mode is excellent for Plymouth. But after Fedora

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
Oh, I misunderstood. Yeah, it should remember the previous configuration you had with this combination of outputs. This information is stored in ~/.config/monitors.xml. Right. I guess what I'm saying is...it doesn't seem to. The very first time I booted my laptop with this (800x600)

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
Please pardon my answering everyone in one email. To Adam: I have not used my BIOS. The Intel 965 card on my Toshiba laptop has no BIOS options. I can't even change the default scaling from full-panel to off. It's really sad. The OS has to do everything in this laptop, since the BIOS

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
lt;clonegt;yeslt;/clonegt; line. Every config (including for the 800x600 projector) sets clone to no. Sorry for the bad escape code. I meant there are no cloneyes/clone lines at all. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: crazy Xrandr/XOrg automatic display configuration.

2009-11-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: so, um, you didn't read it, then. =) he simply suggested connecting the external monitor at grub stage rather than having it plugged in at BIOS stage, to see if that made a difference. Oh, curses! Right, sorry about that. When I go back

Re: Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin

2009-11-10 Thread Jud Craft
I have heard about that, but as a non-evolution it isn't interesting for me. How about you ? Want to contribute to the Fedora community and learn a little a packaging software for a distro ? I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying it's not an actual Evolution plugin? I can't help package

rhythmbox, UPNP, firewalls etc.

2009-11-10 Thread Jud Craft
Hey. Two problems when using Rhythmbox's UPNP plugin. 1. How can I open up the Fedora firewall correctly? I've seen posts that in forums (eg. Ubuntu) that say open port UDP-1900, but I tried this and I still can't see my friends in the network (as opposed to firewall-off, when I can see them

Evolution mail and TNEF attachment plugin

2009-11-09 Thread Jud Craft
Hello all. I see on the internet that there is a utility to decode TNEF/(Microsoft Outlook)-type email attachments. The utility (library?) looks like its available in Fedora. However, there is a separate Evolution plugin that appears to be upstream (since GNOME 2.12 [1]). This plugin doesn't

missing help files for Evolution and Nautilus in F12 Beta?

2009-11-07 Thread Jud Craft
In F12, the GNOME Help Program (I think it's called Yelp, now?) shows an error when trying to access Help in either Nautilus or Evolution. Do these programs not have help available? Or has it simply not been packaged for the F12 beta? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list

updating F11 GNOME release

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
This is unfortunately not actually a helpful topic, but I am deathly curious. Will GNOME be stuck at 2.26 for the rest of the F11 cycle? Or are updates in the works, just not ready yet? -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: updating F11 GNOME release

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
@Judd, wait for the F12 release, it's the best 'update' and it is not ready yet! I hope so. I'm not sure anything can top Fedora 8. Hard to explain how much I enjoyed that distribution. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Samba with Windows XP client

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
in theory what you suggest should work. but I've certainly had plenty of cases where for reasons unknown to me I couldn't browse to a particular machine or share, but could manually mount it just fine. I second this. I have -never- gotten Windows Network browsing to work reliably, under

Re: Samba with Windows XP client

2009-11-02 Thread Jud Craft
But it has to be said that Windows networking can be a nightmare in its native environment.  After fault finding other people's systems, I've reached the conclusion that it's been badly designed, and never sensibly fixed up. I'd agree with this almost completely, with about one exception:

Re: (2nd time)unable to burn disk in brasero disk burner (every-time it spoils the disk )

2009-11-01 Thread Jud Craft
F11's Brasero has had some serious bugs (it started out fine, but updates made it worse). You could try updating to the newest Brasero in Rawhide. yum update --enablerepo=rawhide brasero That might work. You could also try running F12, which uses the newest version of Brasero as well and has

Re: the ultimate fedora laptop?

2009-11-01 Thread Jud Craft
 beyond the standard virt support, is it worth looking at IOMMU support?  (intel calls it VT-d, while AMD calls it AMD-Vi.  are laptops shipping with that feature these days?  is it immediately useful?) As for VT-d and AMD-Vi, I believe these -are- the standard hardware virtualization support.

Re: the ultimate fedora laptop?

2009-11-01 Thread Jud Craft
 beyond the standard virt support, is it worth looking at IOMMU support?  (intel calls it VT-d, while AMD calls it AMD-Vi. Yes, that looks right. IOMMU -is- VT-d.  AIUI, standard HW virt support is AMD-V for AMD, and VT-x for intel.  above and beyond that, you have what *used* to be called

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-26 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: AFAICT, the native LLVM backends don't have that problem. The real problem with C++ is that Clang's C++ support is experimental and incomplete, so you're stuck with llvm-g++. I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or symbol or

Re: Fedora 12 Beta

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram sunda...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Yes. Development releases of Fedora have a large number of debugging stuff enabled. I really can't tell if you're joking. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@redhat.com

Re: Looking into LLVM

2009-10-25 Thread Jud Craft
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Actually, the ABI issue is only if you use the C code generator, not the native ones. I'm not sure I understand. How can LLVM-C be ABI-incompatible with plain GCC-C? I thought that C doesn't have any crazy name or

Re: Status of touchpad support in F12 for kdm?

2009-10-19 Thread Jud Craft
I suppose at least this does work even if upstream policy is not to make this available - however for a newbie just installing F11 and wanting this available it is not obvious from install notes or release notes as far as I remember? It's important to note... The reason why you can't

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
What about using LVM to store a pre-update snapshot of your distro? (Separate root partition from /home and other stuff, of course. Roll back root). Highly inconvenient, but it would theoretically work... On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed,

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: Newer builds with patches, reverted code with epoch, newer upstream release to fix the mistake upstream, etc..  To say that there is no way to fix a mistake is insulting. I'd like to logic-link here with the following... On Wed, Oct 14,

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Jud Craft wrote: They both suffer from the same problem -- new packages may cause changes in data that are not reversibly compatible with the old package, and mere package rollback is not useful. Of course, I imagine that any rollback system that doesn't

Re: Updates-testing (was: Re: thunderbird upgrade - wtf?)

2009-10-14 Thread Jud Craft
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: There's no perfect. we're just going for 'good enough', really. Ah, so package-rollback is shipped as the halfway-effective crutch, but it's so easy to implement we might as well offer it anyway solution. Or, the excellent implementation of

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-24 Thread Jud Craft
, automount doesn't do the unmount and remount for each user part. If someone corrects me I will gladly appreciate it, but for now I am very happy with my script. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Ed Greshkoed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Jud Craft wrote: It doesn't help to be members of the group/GID

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-24 Thread Jud Craft
It is very true that I did not want to do my own research. I wanted to summon the exact answer I needed from someone else's mind. Rediscovery was something I did not want to waste time on. Of laziness, I stand guilty. Genuinely, thanks for the posts though. Bookmarked, I'll be sure to give

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-22 Thread Jud Craft
I know that NTFS is pretty much as functional as FAT32 is. But I don't think that NTFS supports Linux users and groups on Linux. Does it? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Timignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 20:47 -0400, Jud Craft wrote: Since I'm using this partition

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-21 Thread Jud Craft
. On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Ed Greshkoed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Jud Craft wrote: It automatically mounts a drive that contains my Desktop directory. Hence, I need it to work before nautilus does. It specifically is a per-user mount, so I can't have it globally automount

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-21 Thread Jud Craft
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Ed Greshkoed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: One thing I forgot to mention I prefer to solve problems with standard tools than specialized scripts that need to be maintained. I totally agree. But the FAT32-user limitation is built into GNOME, so that's not

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-20 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/18/2009 01:18 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: Jud Craft wrote: I would like to run a script at login, but before gnome-panel and nautilus-desktop are launched (after gnome-session is okay, of course). Is there a place in the login/startup process that I can do this? With Gnome's Startup

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-20 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/21/2009 12:22 AM, Jud Craft wrote: So X session scripts are a no-go. Just have to poke around some more, I guess. From the GNOME.org wiki: http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession Mentions the new startup paradigm, where you specify a phase (Initialization

GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-18 Thread Jud Craft
I would like to run a script at login, but before gnome-panel and nautilus-desktop are launched (after gnome-session is okay, of course). Is there a place in the login/startup process that I can do this? With Gnome's Startup Applications, a script is not guaranteed to be executed before the rest

Re: GNOME startup, -before- desktop

2009-08-18 Thread Jud Craft
/18 Jud Craft craft...@gmail.com: I would like to run a script at login, but before gnome-panel and nautilus-desktop are launched (after gnome-session is okay, of course). Is there a place in the login/startup process that I can do this? With Gnome's Startup Applications, a script

Re: firefox open containing folder

2009-08-16 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/16/2009 09:28 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: There is on may machine, as well as an option Open with other Application. This is in Gnome. Well darn. Are you sure? This is mine. Sorry for the attachment. I don't have a Open With tab for folders. On my machine (running GNOME but with some

Re: Updating methods

2009-08-16 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/16/2009 09:51 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 00:15:59 Tim wrote: Windows users...hoping...doing the exact same thing over and over will generate a different result. That's insane. What really blows your mind is that sometimes, it -ACTUALLY DOES-. --

Re: firefox open containing folder

2009-08-16 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/16/2009 11:05 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: On Sunday 16 August 2009 14:38:56 Jud Craft wrote: On 08/16/2009 09:28 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: There is on may machine, as well as an option Open with other Application. This is in Gnome. Well darn. Are you sure? This is mine. Sorry

Re: firefox open containing folder

2009-08-15 Thread Jud Craft
On 08/14/2009 06:45 AM, Tim wrote: On your desktop, or in a file browser, right-click on a folder, open the properties for it, and change the open-with preference to something more sensible. No can do. Under current F11 GNOME 2.26.3, when you open Properties on a Folder, there is no Open

Re: Applications Dock functionality (launcher, lister, switcher combined), no eye candy required?

2009-07-15 Thread Jud Craft
All docks currently in existence require a composited screen. They all are designed to mimic the animation-heavy OS X dock. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:16 AM, S P Arif Sahari Wibowoarifs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi! I am looking for an application which can function as applications dock (combined

Re: Applications Dock functionality (launcher, lister, switcher combined), no eye candy required?

2009-07-15 Thread Jud Craft
I misspoke. WindowMaker's Dock indeed fulfills all your requirements. However, I thought you did not want WindowMaker. As for AWN dock, GNOME Do docky, they require compositing. Most of these OS X dock type applications all require a composited screen. However -- a quick google reveals that

Re: Who can tell me what does this mean?

2009-07-14 Thread Jud Craft
This command looks like it will ask for your root password, and then it will install or update the VMWare Player package. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Nathan Huangnathan.vorbei.t...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys who can tell me what does this syntax mean? su -c 'rpm -Uvh /path to

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-14 Thread Jud Craft
You could try yum reinstalling PulseAudio. If you had tried a fresh install of F11 on a small side partition, you could figure out whether F11 sound is the problem or my upgrade was the problem, since Fedora upgrades seem to have bugs of their own quite often, and the Linux sound infrastructure

Re: From the top... how do I get sound working in F11 ?

2009-07-14 Thread Jud Craft
environment, or tell you immediately if it was futile. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Linuxguy123linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 17:21 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: You could try yum reinstalling PulseAudio. If you had tried a fresh install of F11 on a small side partition, you

Re: Completely confused by VNC packaging in Fedora 10

2009-07-08 Thread Jud Craft
The VNC packages in F11 actually use TigerVNC. TigerVNC is based on RealVNC, so they just dropped in the program and didn't change the names. There is no plain Tightvnc or Realvnc in F11 -- the TigerVNC package just uses the generic vncserver and vncviewer names. The VNC packaging is definitely

Re: Fedora 11 UTF-8 and fonts (clearcase and citrix ICAClient, and maybe motif in general?)

2009-07-08 Thread Jud Craft
Try posting this to the fedora-font list too. On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Andy Wangdope...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I posted this on fedoraforum.org when I was testing the preview F11 and just did again to see if anyone using F11 release has any ideas, but I thought I'd try the mailing

Re: RFC: Kernel changes that may affect desktops

2009-06-30 Thread Jud Craft
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Matthew Garrettm...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:48:44PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: You have to tell us what we need to change in KDE and give us the necessary time to adapt, even if it means you have to wait for Fedora 13 to push this change.

Re: RFC: Kernel changes that may affect desktops

2009-06-30 Thread Jud Craft
Darn straight. I stand corrected. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Adam Jacksona...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:42 -0500, Jud Craft wrote: Fedora's deployment of that work, however, is another matter.  Does Fedora offer a variety of environments with a set of common features

Re: How to enable xorg.conf in F-11

2009-06-11 Thread Jud Craft
I think the Fedora release notes mention that if you run the tool system-config-display, it will automatically generate an xorg.conf for you. From the Common F11 Bugs, under Miscellaneous problems with Intel graphics adapters : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F11_bugs#intel-misc-gfx

Re: This ought to have worked

2009-06-11 Thread Jud Craft
Maybe Red Hat's site could do that cool video tag wrapping trick that uses HTML-video by default, then falls back to flash if not present? On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 3:07 AM, Richard Hugheshughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Robert Wuestrwues...@wuest.org wrote: A

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-08 Thread Jud Craft
Besides the fact that Skype is closed source, I was under the impression that the idea of distributed voice transmission was an advantage. Shouldn't a ideal communication system have no single point of failure (or a country club of them, ala a group of ISP servers?) On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:51

Re: Maintainer Responsibilities

2009-06-04 Thread Jud Craft
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: David Tardon wrote: Let me try another analogy: How do you handle health problems? You'll visit your doctor. You'll expect him to identify the problem and to take appropriate steps to solve your issue--that may well

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-04 Thread Jud Craft
Kevin seems to be distraught over the possibility that his friends might be able, through pressure, to force him into a choice of using a system he doesn't like, or not being in touch with people. Skype is a proprietary social service. The only pressure to use it is a social one, which isn't to

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
Ekiga is an open-source voice chat solution. However, it does not use the Skype network. There is also Empathy, which supports voice chat and can do basic IM functions, like Pidgin. I have not used either of these, so consumer beware. I would give Empathy a shot first; Fedora and Ubuntu have

Re: Skype under Fedora-10

2009-06-01 Thread Jud Craft
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: Contacts for Skype are stored on their servers. All you need to do is install skype and sign in with your userid and password to get your contacts. Perhaps they are talking about transferring contacts between Skype

Re-enable graphical boot in Fedora 11, switch between Plymouth themes

2009-05-23 Thread Jud Craft
Hey there. Installed F11 preview, really like it. Intel 965GM graphics card, by the way. When I first set it up, I was delighted to find that plymouth and the new graphical boot splash, Compiz, and redirected direct rendering all work perfectly. I was very glad that at least for my card model,

Re: Re-enable graphical boot in Fedora 11, switch between Plymouth themes

2009-05-23 Thread Jud Craft
That's awesome, thanks. So run those commands and that should do it. By doing a find / * | grep plymouth I found the plymouth README in /usr/share/doc/plymouth, and it also turned up a list of my themes in /usr/share/plymouth/themes. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: Firefox 3 hogging 90% CPU, can anything be done about this?

2009-04-21 Thread Jud Craft
I used to install both NoScript and Flashblock myself. The reason? Even when I trust a site, I still don't want it loading Flash whenever it wants. Bogs down my browsing. So even when I trust a site, Flashblock keeps the extra flash games and ads from running, unless I want it to. I

Re: Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-12 Thread Jud Craft
No, I mean I know how to do a net installation. Just did one last night. But I wanted to point out that it's very difficult to find the net-installation-only image. That install guide doesn't actually mention where to find the minimal net install image. And for some, there's a huge difference

Re: Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-12 Thread Jud Craft
Ah. So they are. Whoops. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-12 Thread Jud Craft
Forgive me. You do not understand what I am saying. I know well that the 128MB boot.iso exists -- and in Fedora 10 it is called netinst.iso. My complaint is that I wish Fedora made it easy to _find it_. None of the posts so far, nor Fedora's website, have actually told me where to find the

Re: Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-12 Thread Jud Craft
I apologize for my sarcasm. It is frustrating when you feel misunderstood. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines

Re: Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-12 Thread Jud Craft
Todd's idea was my general thought -- at least put it on the page with the big list of stuff. Mike wrote... That being said, it wasn't all that difficult to find... Your ease in finding it depends a lot on your familiarity with the structure. Consider that you had to realize which numbered

Showing how to find the net installation images?

2009-03-11 Thread Jud Craft
Hey there. I've been looking for the netinst.iso for Fedora 10. I can't find it anywhere on fedoraproject's download page, and there is no information on where to find it in either the Installation Guide or the Release notes. I did eventually manage to find it by picking a random mirror and