Re: Removing System Consoles from Fedora

2008-09-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-16 at 09:11 -0400, Mike Burger wrote: As I said...I don't agree with it...I'm just saying that I understand the thinking behind it. Sorry, but I think you don't. You might want to read Alan Cox's message on the

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 11:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: Oh, sure. Feel free to look up the archives. Different conversation, I guess. You claimed a official Java implementation wouldn't have issues. OpenJDK is one. Errr, that blog

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 13:47 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: What in the hell are you talking about? The sentence was a question, not a statement, in text, no less. How obtuse do you have to be in order to miss that? You can always phrase a question and still

Re: Java and openjdk

2008-08-29 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Fri, 2008-08-29 at 16:21 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: You are not a native English speaker, right? The question itself is so outlandish that it is very doubtful that it is truly a question being asked. I'm sure there is a unique label for this type of literary technique...but it

Re: pulseaudio, howto make it work?

2008-08-24 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2008-08-24 at 01:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2008, Craig White wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-23 at 22:06 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 23 August 2008, Rex Dieter wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: Thanks for the reply Rex, even if we do not agree. :) :)

Re: F8(1) vs multimedia production(0)

2008-08-16 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 11:24 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: question of functionality. The only thing breaching the functionality issue is a dumbass ideology that needs to be decided in court. You appear very confused. Courts enforce the law and in some parts of the We're not talking about

Re: F8(1) vs multimedia production(0)

2008-08-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 21:40 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Gene Heskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nah. I've used kino before. The button has been pushed, and Ubuntu 8.04 is coming in via ktorrent right now. Good for you. It's

Re: F8(1) vs multimedia production(0)

2008-08-14 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 10:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: I've been with redhat/fedora for a bit over 10 years now for my main machine. When F8 support ends, I think that will be grounds for a divorce. I'm tired of the keep the good stuff on the other side of the

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 09:42 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2008 15:50, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If you have ATI, F8 is the only way to go. F9 is not good for ATI cards, the ati drivers won't support any x server greater than 1.4.2. I presume you mean for accelerated desktop

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:08 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Lyvim Xaphir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 09:42 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2008 15:50, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If you have ATI, F8 is the only way to go. F9

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 22:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2008 19:56, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 09:42 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 12 August 2008 15:50, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If you have ATI, F8 is the only way to go. F9 is not good for ATI

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-13 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 15:10 -0700, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 17:55 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: First of all, it's not the property of the cultists, it's everybodys property. Second of all, you astonishingly make the assumption that the only ones contributing are those

Re: F8 vs F9

2008-08-12 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 14:05 +, Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED wrote: I need to install a few new systems in the next few weeks. My requirements are: apache; C++ code development; netfilter; KDE; openvpn; and above all, stability. I have heard a rumor that I might be better off with F8 than F9.

Re: Project Stick In The Mud :-)

2008-08-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Mon, 2008-08-11 at 00:39 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: Russell, I've got a K9A Platinum. I've had sound working from day one, with a better set of drivers and a better mixer. The difference is that I went to http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi And downloaded the

Re: Misunderstanding GPL's terms and conditions as restrictions (and an apology)

2008-08-11 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2008-08-03 at 12:54 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Alexandre Oliva wrote: Having source available is not enough for Software to be Free. It might come as a surprise to some, but it's not even enough for it to be Open Source. Perhaps you don't even realize that the word 'free'

Re: Project Stick In The Mud :-)

2008-08-10 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 23:01 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Tom spot Callaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2008-08-09 at 18:43 -0700, Russell Miller wrote: What gets me is that it's an integrated soundchip. Usually those are

Re: Sound

2008-08-06 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 21:04 +0200, Per Anton Ronning wrote: I was trying the loudspeakers playing a music CD. Suddenly I lost the sound, (I was doing something else on the PC which I cannot remember what was, I am preparing the PC for production so I do a lot of things) I have not

RE: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-08-02 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 11:58 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Antonio Olivares To cat the free fish living in the sea, Les will need more than a free boat. He will also need Nets, snip He does need much more? Yes GNU provides these things, but he does not want to give