Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2009-05-05 at 08:29 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: Another issue is using capacitors that are close to the operating voltage of the system. 12V and use 15V capacitors. This doesn't give any overhead for voltage spikes or surges caused by charging and discharging circuits. For

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-05 Thread Robin Laing
David Liguori wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: One of the more common mechanisms for failure of electrolytic capacitors is too high an ambient temperature over a period of time. Usually the temperature rating is on

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread David Liguori
Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a power failure struck? If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try to find the time to take a look at it in the

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread Robert L Cochran
On 05/04/2009 04:19 PM, David Liguori wrote: Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a power failure struck? If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM, David Liguori liguo...@albany.edu wrote: .  You say the room is well-ventilated but that doesn't rule out too high an ambient temperature in a room full of equipment, especially if it was sitting on top of or in a rack full of other equipment.  .

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread Aldo Foot
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Nuts and Volts did a photo of the workshop of a highly skilled electronics hobbyist who gets all his stuff from junk piles, then fixes and reuses the items. That is my nature too. It must come from my grandfather.

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä
Aldo Foot wrote: On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 1:19 PM, David Liguori liguo...@albany.edu wrote: . You say the room is well-ventilated but that doesn't rule out too high an ambient temperature in a room full of equipment, especially if it was sitting on top of or in a rack full of other

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-04 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 16:19 -0400, David Liguori wrote: One of the more common mechanisms for failure of electrolytic capacitors is too high an ambient temperature over a period of time. Usually the temperature rating is on the cap. You say the room is well-ventilated but that doesn't rule

[OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
max wrote: What's a good electronics book? I'm looking for a beginner to intermediate skill level type book. a good question. i can only answer with, i started reading electronic books in library at around age of 9. i started working part time in a radio/tv repair shop at 13. correspondence

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Seann Clark
g wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: snip The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is snip You probably have Chinese- or Taiwanese-manufactured capacitors in that unit, which are not as reliable

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
g wrote: max wrote: What's a good question. if you have my apoligies to list for my 'ot' reply. my apoligies to max for my chastising close. my reply should have consisted of simple 'please contact me off list'. first coffee had not 'done it's thing'. :) -- peace out. tc,hago. g .

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Robin Laing
g wrote: Robert L Cochran wrote: On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: snip The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is snip You probably have Chinese- or Taiwanese-manufactured capacitors in that unit, which are not as reliable as

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
Robin Laing wrote: Fedora 11 will have a software group for electronics. :) fel, already out, tho a specific field, is a very good release for circuit design. -- peace out. tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Les
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 14:03 +, g wrote: max wrote: What's a good electronics book? I'm looking for a beginner to intermediate skill level type book. a good question. i can only answer with, i started reading electronic books in library at around age of 9. i started working part

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Robin Laing robin.la...@drdc-rddc.gc.ca wrote: As for spending the money and time to fix a low cost switch is not worth it except for experience. I agree. I'd do it more for the sake of being green and not waste 90% of the unit. I learned that small units like

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
Les wrote: I would add that the brain is marvelous at relating information. snip will encounter, and the effort needed to correct them. this is true. Like G, I started a long time ago, from vacuum tubes, how long before your finger prints came back? :) Almost everything I ever learned

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Aldo Foot
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: G is right on all counts. ... That said, if you start with a few beginner articles, and please do the exercises they have, you will learn.  The exercises are important to lock the information with the potential errors that you

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 12:24 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: Man... you guys actually saw the birth of computers. It's like having been present at moment of the Big Bang. I can only imagine you blowing up light bulbs in the garage. :-) Printing his own Holerith cards. Breadboarding his first personal

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
Tim wrote: Printing his own Holerith cards. Breadboarding his first personal computer... ;-) Laughing at Windows *KNOWING* why it's so bad... i did do a lot of breadboarding with logic circuits and my first micro was a z80 starter kit that i built to learn machine code. actually i laughed

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
Tim wrote: Just because it's not a mainframe doesn't mean that it doesn't need special computer airconditioning to keep it cool... you got that right. first thing i add to my own and clients' computers is at least 1 extra fan. i even remove power supply and remount fan to draw air out

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread g
Aldo Foot wrote: Man... you guys actually saw the birth of computers. It's like having been present at moment of the Big Bang. it was. i started reading with 4004 oem manual. i still get a bang out of playing with them. i say 'play' because i enjoy what i do and it is no way near what i call

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 11:41 -0700, Aldo Foot wrote: I learned that small units like the one I have will eventually die. It's just a matter of time. It appears to be specially true if all the ports are used 24/7, which is my case. High transfer rates create heat, which causes the caps to blow.

Re: [OT] electronic books. was; Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-05-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 01 May 2009, Aldo Foot wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: G is right on all counts. ... That said, if you start with a few beginner articles, and please do the exercises they have, you will learn. The exercises are important to lock the

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-30 Thread Aldo Foot
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a power failure struck? If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try to find the time to take a look at it in the next few months. I'm

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-30 Thread Robert L Cochran
On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Robert L Cochran cochr...@speakeasy.net wrote: Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a power failure struck? If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try to find the time

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-30 Thread g
Robert L Cochran wrote: On 04/30/2009 02:47 PM, Aldo Foot wrote: snip The unit has a blown capacitor, bulged and brown matter around it. Also there is snip You probably have Chinese- or Taiwanese-manufactured capacitors in that unit, which are not as reliable as Japanese-manufactured

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-30 Thread max
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:18:26AM +, g wrote: yes. i am a 'hardware head' and i have seen this problem, even with an abit mainboard of my own. What's a good electronics book? I'm looking for a beginner to intermediate skill level type book. -- Any fool can know. The point is to

Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-29 Thread Aldo Foot
I have this Netgear Switch GS108 that has apparently failed. Before I buy a new one I'd like to know whether this is known issue with this type of unit or Netgear hardware in general. This unit I have is an 8-port switch. I perused some reading here and there and they point out to faulty

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-29 Thread Seann Clark
Aldo Foot wrote: I have this Netgear Switch GS108 that has apparently failed. Before I buy a new one I'd like to know whether this is known issue with this type of unit or Netgear hardware in general. This unit I have is an 8-port switch. I perused some reading here and there and they point out

Re: Blinking lights of death ? Netgear Switch GS108

2009-04-29 Thread Robert L Cochran
Has the device firmware been pharmed or simply partly flashed and then a power failure struck? If you would like to donate the unit to me, I'll try to find the time to take a look at it in the next few months. I'm still very much an amateur, and I'd like to try analyzing why the unit is not