Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-04 Thread Tim
Chris Tyler: OTOH, I can't see why you'd avoid LVM these days in most configurations. It's very stable, adds only very tiny overhead, Does it have repair tools yet? Back when I first considered it, recovering lost files, etc., from it seemed like it would be much more difficult to do. And

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Tim wrote: Chris Tyler: OTOH, I can't see why you'd avoid LVM these days in most configurations. It's very stable, adds only very tiny overhead, Does it have repair tools yet? Back when I first considered it, recovering lost files, etc., from it seemed like it would be much more [...]

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? I strongly recommend starting with one of the Live CDs. (I use the KDE Live CD.) Once this is running, there is an

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Travis Arnold
Ah ok, does anyone know of any plans for for the partitioner to be overhauled at some point? Travis *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Thomas Cameron
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 08:50 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Ah ok, does anyone know of any plans for for the partitioner to be overhauled at some point? Why? It works fine as it is. You can do standard ext2/3 partitions, LVM and/or RAID from the UI. What else do you want it to do? Thomas --

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Travis Arnold
Sorry, I guess I meant from an intuitiveness stand point, anyone know of plans to make it more user friendly? Or have clear directions on the side- something of that nature. Travis *Travis Arnold* Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:34 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Is there a way I can not have evolution installed? Yes, but removing it will also remove a few other things. But then maybe you don't want them either. Here, removing evolution will remove just evolution and its help files. There are a

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 08:36 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: I have found it impossible (or at least very difficult) to eliminate the LVM partitioning using the graphical partitioner. I haven't. Just be sure to do it in the right order (delete the things inside the volume group, *then* the volume

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 14:14 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: I strongly recommend starting with one of the Live CDs. (I use the KDE Live CD.) Once this is running, there is an option to install on the hard drive. I've never had any problem with this, whereas I have had several problems with DVD

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Chris Tyler
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 01:01 +0930, Tim wrote: I'm curious as to why installing from a live disc should be any better. Surely it'd use the same basic routines. The install from live disc basically consists of copying the ext3 filesystem to disk and then resizing it after the copy -- which is

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Travis Arnold
Chris Tyler wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 01:01 +0930, Tim wrote: I'm curious as to why installing from a live disc should be any better. Surely it'd use the same basic routines. The install from live disc basically consists of copying the ext3 filesystem to disk and then resizing it after

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Chris Tyler wrote: OTOH, I can't see why you'd avoid LVM these days in most configurations. It's very stable, adds only very tiny overhead, and yet gives you a lot more flexibility for the future (disk migration, volume resizing, adding disks to existing filesystems, ...). It's saved my bacon

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Thomas Cameron
Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Either one should work, the DVD route is nice because all of the packages are right there. LiveCD can require that

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Travis Arnold
Thomas Cameron wrote: Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Either one should work, the DVD route is nice because all of the packages are right there.

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Chris Tyler
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:49 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Also how can I have a seperate home directory? the LVM section in the partitioning

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:49 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Also how can I have a seperate home directory? the LVM section in the partitioning

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Tim
Travis Arnold: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Thomas Cameron: Either one should work, the DVD route is nice because all of the packages are right there. LiveCD can

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:15 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: so I don't even have to use LVM? That is so nice to know. I've looked around on Fedorasolved and I see the article about moving /home but is there another write up possibly dealing with how to instal l with out LVM? the interface

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:56 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Ok, thanks so if I take the dvd, then I can choose what I can install? keep it sort of simple, then there would be less updates correct? Also thank you Chris for the link to the chapter, that was helpful, I like directions...books are

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:56 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: if I take the dvd, then I can choose what I can install? Yes, you can customise the install, adding packages, removing default ones. Though be aware that if you remove something that something else depends on, what you removed will be

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Travis Arnold
Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:56 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: if I take the dvd, then I can choose what I can install? Yes, you can customise the install, adding packages, removing default ones. Though be aware that if you remove something that something else depends on, what you

RE: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread landon kelsey
I'm not an expert but I've found that it is best to install everything but languages! I knew a guy who didn't and he *always* had dependency problems! I love downloading the dvd iso , burning it and installing everything but languages! I do remember a dependency problem because some strange

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 12:34 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Tim wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 09:56 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: if I take the dvd, then I can choose what I can install? Yes, you can customise the install, adding packages, removing default ones. Though be aware that if you

Re: Ello, I'm sort of new to the lists...is it best to install from livecd?

2008-09-02 Thread Thomas Cameron
On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Tue, 2008-09-02 at 08:49 -0400, Travis Arnold wrote: Erm I've been using ubuntu recently but would like to use fedora, but am not sure how to install, is it best to use live cd, or the dvd install medium? Also how can I have a