Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-31 Thread Ric Moore
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 08:03 -0700, scm in seattle wrote: Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. The scary thing is that the normal/typical update manager found these packages and proceeded to 'upgrade' my

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Kelly
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: Andrew Kelly akelly at corisweb.org writes: Even Sidux won't yet touch KDE4, and that's right out there on the scary edge and KDE-centric to boot. One must learn to read the omens. Sidux is based on Debian unstable (sid). Hence the

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread max
Todd Zullinger wrote: scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out pulseaudio to achieve it? I'm still using 7 on these boxes, because what I've read on this tends to suggest that it doesn't. 9

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:12 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out pulseaudio to achieve it? FWIW, I'm running F9 (w/ pulseaudio) and everything

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 30 May 2008 13:59:48 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out pulseaudio to achieve it? I'm still using 7 on these boxes, because what I've read on this tends to suggest that it

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Eric Mesa
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:12 +0930, Tim wrote: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:09 +, Kevin Kofler wrote: If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Has 8 got proper working sound yet? And without having to rip out pulseaudio to

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread scm in seattle
for me to accept. Surely you cannot upgrade to Fedora-9 by mistake? If in fact you have not upgraded to Fedora-9 why call your posting F8-F9 horror. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread scm in seattle
Sam, My script is simpler - insert DVD, restart, follow the prompts So much changed that it would be and exercise in futility to try undo the mess. But thanks for the inspiration! Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, this is an excellent opportunity for you to learn how to recover a

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Arthur Pemberton
2008/5/30 scm in seattle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. The scary thing is that the normal/typical update manager found these packages and proceeded to 'upgrade' my system. In effect

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Rick Stevens
Arthur Pemberton wrote: 2008/5/30 scm in seattle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Surely you can, in some manner... as I replied much earlier, I had by mistake enabled the Rawhide development repository. yum can only do what you asked/told it to do. If you enable the rawhide or testing repos and there's

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread lanas
Le Vendredi, 30 Mai 2008 10:09:22 + (UTC), Kevin Kofler [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : If you want old stuff, use Fedora 8, not 9. Anytime. I like old stuff that recognizes network printers right off the install. Bravo F8. I hate new stuff that not only does not recognize printers after the

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 21:31 -0400, lanas wrote: And please, keep your new stuff to play with. When it reaches a state that can be acceptable, then let it out. Not before. You do realize that the way it gets to be acceptable is by people using it? You do realize that that is precisely what

F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread scm in seattle
I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I rebooted. My useful KDE3

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Rex Dieter
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Rex Dieter
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Todd Zullinger
scm in seattle wrote: I have been using F8 for a while now and simply put it was the only distro that supported my laptop (fairly) well. Today I accepted what appeared to be 'typical' updates. The size of the update concerned me slightly (500Mb) but turned to horror when it finished and I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread scm in seattle
Hi Rex, yum repolist shows: Fedora - Rawhide... My own doing surely while looking for some other package I required. I guess it's time to rebuild the installation, unless you have any other suggestions on how to recover this mess. Thanks for your help. Rex Dieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: scm

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Arthur Pemberton
2008/5/29 scm in seattle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No I did not read the release notes because... I was NOT intending to upgrade to F9! I did accept the updates that the update notifier prompted for me to accept. Fedora may have bugs, but it doesn't auto update to a different version. Perhaps I

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
scm in seattle writes: Hi Rex, yum repolist shows: Fedora - Rawhide... My own doing surely while looking for some other package I required. I guess it's time to rebuild the installation, unless you have any other suggestions on how to recover this mess. Thanks for your help. Well, it

Re: F8 - F9 horror

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
scm in seattle scmsea at yahoo.com writes: yum repolist shows: Fedora - Rawhide... Then that must be it. Note that Rawhide is actually F10 pre-alpha, not F9, so no wonder it's buggy (but it has KDE 4.1 beta 1, so your complaints about 4.0 are missing the point). Kevin Kofler --